The RIU prop19 poll vote here.(california resident only pleace)

yes or no

  • Total voters
    64
  • Poll closed .
If we were to require age to be mentioned, I'd say the vote is over 35, no, and under 35, yes(except for the older ones that want to get rich, killing sick people).

No, I DIDN'T say vote yes or no!

LOL
 
I wasnt going to vote since im not a california resident then I look at the thing and I see peoples names on both yes and no that are not California residents so I just went ahead and voted anyway lol
 
Iv never acually seen no take the lead in any threads. lol
i dont think its gonna pass because of you guys, id like it to
no argue, i know the truth behind it, im just willin to accept it.
im ok with it. but im defintily voting yes
 
Ok, Ok.... I know this is a fairly pot friendly forum. However, some of us oppose Prop 19 for very obvious reasons. Here are the best reasons I have seen so far as to why we should oppose Prop 19:


www.opposeprop19.com
 
RxReefer said:
Ok, Ok.... I know this is a fairly pot friendly forum. However, some of us oppose Prop 19 for very obvious reasons. Here are the best reasons I have seen so far as to why we should oppose Prop 19:


www.opposeprop19.com
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Anyone who has been in this for any amount of time knows about Harry's affiliation with William Randolph Hearst.

He was influenced by big business because making Cannabis illegal increased the value of Hearst's timber holdings, many times over.

His reasons for Cannabis prohibition are the same as those supporting 19.

Money and power.
 
im voting no cuz i dont want things to change for the worst..by what i hear and what i have read it sounds like there ganna try to fuk us over..but if prop 19 REALLY doesn't conflict with prop 215 then im all for it
 
http://www.steephilllab.com/industry...t-oct-2010.pdf

Here goes Steep Hill Lab's report, They cover some of the possible affects of Prop on 19 on medical Cannabis.

"1- Shrinking of doctors’ sector. It seems feasible that if patients can get their cannabis without a doctor’s recommendation, they will do so.

2- Reduction of cannabis price overall. While this seems inevitable, Prop. 19 passing or not, the passing could speed up the process. Low income patients who cannot afford recommendations would be able to utilize local dispensaries. The increased demand would be met with increased supply and increased competition from dispensaries. This is a recipe for lower prices on the retail side.

3- Increased effort from outdoor growers to market their products. Outdoor cannabis is far cheaper to produce than indoor. With more price declines, outdoor cannabis becomes more competitive. Technological advances in outdoor growing are already closing the gap between indoor and high- end outdoor quality cannabis. With marketing, consumers may begin to migrate back to outdoor cannabis.

4- Expansion of capital investment from other industries. Investors are waiting for legalization. Hundreds of millions of dollars will flow into the industry over the next five years."

Big up the researchers! Some really interesting ideas here, like the outdoor gaining in popularity. GO STEEP HILL LAB!
 
Cali.Grown>408 said:
im voting no cuz i dont want things to change for the worst..by what i hear and what i have read it sounds like there ganna try to fuk us over..but if prop 19 REALLY doesn't conflict with prop 215 then im all for it
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AGREED. And we won't really know how that may play out unless it passes...so what will we do Californians? I heard 49% yes and 42% no.
 
with all the people who smoke weed im thinking it will pass but hoping it wont..and if it does i sure hope they dont fuk over us growers
 
The latest poll of 2,004 likely voters throughout the state by the Public Policy Institute of California reports that 52 percent of Californians back Prop. 19, versus 41 percent opposed and seven percent undecided.
 
Eyes wide open!

After much reading and much support for this proposition, I must reveal my new opposition.
I have picked it apart a few times, racked my head over a few times and came to this conclusion.
There is way too many restriction put upon the average user/cultivator!
As backwards as that sounds.:dunce:
This carefully scripted paper truly opens the door only for big business.
Without large collateral, any budding entrepreneurs have no chance of success and that is apparently intentional!
I cannot in good mind, back something that crushes the "little guy".
Instead, I think we should focus our efforts towards influencing our Governor to sign the bill lessening possession charges. This bill has already made it through and is sitting on his desk.

In short I say this...,

Don't vote Yes, or No. Vote Next!​
 
Average restrictions?


Right now ... the average person can't use or grow marijuana period.
 
tc1 said:
Average restrictions?


Right now ... the average person can't use or grow marijuana period.
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The average Californian can....if you think otherwise its called 215. If marijuana betters your life in any way, you can get a script.
 
This is all very frustrating, I literally cannot believe that so many people here do not want legalization in california.

I am voting Yes on 19 and campaigning everyday until Nov 2 to help encourage others to vote Yes.
All of you that say we already have legalization because of 215 are quite frankly lying to yourselves. Having to pay a fee for a Dr's recommendation and medical card every year in order to not end up in jail is NOT legalization. When Prop 19 passes we will not have to waste our money on these stupid recommendations.
 
luvourmother said:
This is all very frustrating, I literally cannot believe that so many people here do not want legalization in california.
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Once again, just because you can't tell the difference from a legitimate legalization/decriminalization bill and a commercialization one doesn't mean the rest of us stop using our brains. As a long time proponent of decriminalization and responsible legalization, the potential flows of this bill are all too apparent and the powers granted to local municipalities give them far too much license to circumscribe the lives of the populace regardless of will of the people.

luvourmother said:
I am voting Yes on 19 and campaigning everyday until Nov 2 to help encourage others to vote Yes.
All of you that say we already have legalization because of 215 are quite frankly lying to yourselves. Having to pay a fee for a Dr's recommendation and medical card every year in order to not end up in jail is NOT legalization. When Prop 19 passes we will not have to waste our money on these stupid recommendations.
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No, instead you'll waste your money on consumption and use taxes and also have to comp the retailer the other associated fees incurred as natural consequence of commercial ventures. No one goes to jail for simple possession. Currently they'll get a misdemeanor and $100 fine. Come January 1, they'll just get a ticket.
 
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