The RIU prop19 poll vote here.(california resident only pleace)

yes or no

  • Total voters
    64
  • Poll closed .
The Ruiner said:
I am still waiting for your words to carry any weight whatsoever...until then you are just a know-nothing internet blow-hard.
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And because you are a resident of California, that gives you the right to make unsubstantiated claims against prop 19 without being called out on them? Regardless of where I am, you made a statement as if it was fact and are now unwilling or unable to explain it in detail, yet you will resort to name calling and insults?

Perfect..... You represent your side so well...
 
Sure Shot said:
Great question!
IMO, Some powers that be don't like the results of any of the prop19 polls.
I'ld love to be proven wrong. :)
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when YOU make the accusation it is YOU who must prove it. ;)


i did not close it. looking back i see the thread was active until the 8th. then it got bumped today but the poll is closed. i have no idea why, unless there was a cut-off date entered when it was started. or another mod may have closed it. i do not know why they would though.
 
TokinPodPilot said:
The title of the proposition is "Regulate, Control and Tax Cannabis Act of 2010", not "Cannabis Legalization Act" or "Cannabis Decriminalization Act". Regulation, taxation and enforcement (control) are components of commercialization. California Senate Bill 1449 was a true decriminalization bill. Any true legalization legislation would not add criminal charges for activities currently decriminalized, which Prop. 19 does. As I've said before, we don't need new cannabis laws, we're doing fine getting rid of the ones we already have.
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Besides making it a felony to smoke with or provide marijuana to minors under 18 years of age, what felonies are you talking about? Do you advocate that minors should be provided with marijuana? If the answer is no, what other felonies are you referring to?
 
GNOME GROWN said:
ok wait,so pretty much the people votein no to prop19 are the people that r makeing killer profits off their medical grows and dont wanna be taxed up the ass?!?!... understandable i guess, but think about all the other ppl that dont even have legal rights to medicinal growing!...where im from they decriminalized up to an oz, but theres not medicinal usage here nor can u grow!...so if prop 19 pass's in cali i think it would open up doors for other states to atleast start medicinal usage!...sorry if this makes no sense,i just blazed some hash out the bong! :D
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yeah, that's it exactly. because the big growers would NEVER sell out of state for the BIG dollars, thus not really caring what happens either way. ;)
 
Serapis said:
And because you are a resident of California, that gives you the right to make unsubstantiated claims against prop 19 without being called out on them? Regardless of where I am, you made a statement as if it was fact and are now unwilling or unable to explain it in detail, yet you will resort to name calling and insults?

Perfect..... You represent your side so well...
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At this point I dont really care about how you care to see things...or how i say them... you are exactly what I said you are (in my eyes). If you can't even see a grain of truth in my statements - then you are also considerably delusional. Every chance you get you try and twist everything around... you make a bunch of insinuations and allegations that are as patently false as the medical exemptions you claim are a part of 19. You are an embodiment of everything that is wrong with modern politics in this country.
 
The Ruiner said:
No, they should have just put the exemptions in the right places.
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Precisely!

The authors left those exemptions out because THEY want control of the market.

The really nasty part is those wealthy men KNOW how difficult growing can be for home growers.

Maybe one in ten newly legal users will have the ability to successfully grow in their 25 sq. ft.

Everyone else will be forced to buy their buds from the commercial interests.

Serapis: I've placed others on "ignore" because they refuse to provide proof of their claims, instead accusing me of greed.

You get to join them. As an out of state bullshitter, you have no place in this discussion.

Byeeee!
 
The Ruiner said:
At this point I dont really care about how you care to see things...or how i say them... you are exactly what I said you are (in my eyes). If you can't even see a grain of truth in my statements - then you are also considerably delusional. Every chance you get you try and twist everything around... you make a bunch of insinuations and allegations that are as patently false as the medical exemptions you claim are a part of 19. You are an embodiment of everything that is wrong with modern politics in this country.
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You guys have been proven wrong in your claims about P19's effects on P215. Every major pro MJ group supports P19. Retired judge Jim Gray has stated in his blog that P19 exempts P215. You guys are voting your wallet, which is fine, but you are also a bunch of big fat liars trying to scare others with insinuations and allegations that are as patently false as your claims that P19 will affect P215.
 
Serapis said:
Besides making it a felony to smoke with or provide marijuana to minors under 18 years of age, what felonies are you talking about? Do you advocate that minors should be provided with marijuana? If the answer is no, what other felonies are you referring to?
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Anyone 18-20 years is liable for criminal possession charges under Prop. 19, whereas under existing statutes they're protected and are further protected by the new decriminalization statutes. Anyone who shares cannabis with someone between the ages of 18-20 years is subject to felony charges whereas this would be allowed and equally protected under existing and recent new legislation.
 
desert dude said:
You guys have been proven wrong in your claims about P19's effects on P215. Every major pro MJ group supports P19. Retired judge Jim Gray has stated in his blog that P19 exempts P215. You guys are voting your wallet, which is fine, but you are also a bunch of big fat liars trying to scare others with insinuations and allegations that are as patently false as your claims that P19 will affect P215.
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if prop 19 passes more people will come to me for weed. i don't pay taxes now, why would any of this "scare me"? half the people i know only smoke a little here and there because it is illegal. prop 19 would allow them to smoke A LOT more, which would bring me more MONEY. your logic is flawed. :neutral:

maybe if you called us all names and made people think we were bad your side would get more votes. ;)
 
fdd2blk said:
i bet you'd suck a dick for a LEGAL ounce.

hey, it's a start.

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this is fun. :)
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My guess is that you are more likely to be sucking dick than me, when you are sitting in a federal penitentiary for growing and distributing marijuana. I don't smoke it, sell it or grow it.
 
The Ruiner said:
At this point I dont really care about how you care to see things...or how i say them... you are exactly what I said you are (in my eyes). If you can't even see a grain of truth in my statements - then you are also considerably delusional. Every chance you get you try and twist everything around... you make a bunch of insinuations and allegations that are as patently false as the medical exemptions you claim are a part of 19. You are an embodiment of everything that is wrong with modern politics in this country.
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How can I see a grain of truth in your statements when you make claims that you can't even back up or explain in any type of detail? You have yet to explain how 215 gardens will become criminal under 19, as you claim. I have asked you three times to expand upion that in detail, because I know it is a false statement, therefore you can't explain it or justify the remark. I'm simply asking you to explain a false statement that you made, and you are twisting this into allegations and insinuations? Go read prop 19 sections 6, 7, and 8 and come back here and tell me that they don't specifically EXEMPT 11362.5 smart ass.....

I can tell by your deceit and manner that you are a conservative, you are very conservative with the truth in this matter. You have been very vocal in all 19 threads, and you have made some outrageous claims. When asked to back them up and show us where in the prop it states that, YOU ALWAYS resort to name calling and insults.... I wonder why that is? If you have a solid platform, you should be able to easily defend your statements...
 
desert dude said:
My guess is that you are more likely to be sucking dick than me, when you are sitting in a federal penitentiary for growing and distributing marijuana. I don't smoke it, sell it or grow it.
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and you are the type of person who would love to see that happen.


as i've said from the beginning, "one of my main reasons for voting no is because i would prefer not to be associated with those voting yes".
 
Serapis said:
How can I see a grain of truth in your statements when you make claims that you can't even back up or explain in any type of detail? You have yet to explain how 215 gardens will become criminal under 19, as you claim. I have asked you three times to expand upion that in detail, because I know it is a false statement, therefore you can't explain it or justify the remark. I'm simply asking you to explain a false statement that you made, and you are twisting this into allegations and insinuations? Go read prop 19 sections 6, 7, and 8 and come back here and tell me that they don't specifically EXEMPT 11362.5 smart ass.....

I can tell by your deceit and manner that you are a conservative, you are very conservative with the truth in this matter. You have been very vocal in all 19 threads, and you have made some outrageous claims. When asked to back them up and show us where in the prop it states that, YOU ALWAYS resort to name calling and insults.... I wonder why that is? If you have a solid platform, you should be able to easily defend your statements...
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well you certainly haven't insulted anyone, have you? :)
 
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