abandonconflict
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I wouldn't call natural science occult. Scientists share their findings.
THE SECRET OF POLITICS
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Dr Kynes
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i have some idols too, you gonna try ans stone me?
i'm a polytheist, and i dont give a rat's ass about your stupid religious mummery, and dont give a fuck if it bugs you.
your religious beliefs are YOUR religious beliefs, stop trying to impose your bullshit on the rest of the country.
if you wanna make christianity the law of the land, run for congress, draft a bill to amend the constitution, and see how far you get.
even most of the cristians in america (~75% of the population) dont want fuck-knuckles like you dictating religious doctrine as law, since they know very well, youll be coming after their sects next.
also, stop with the alex jones spam, he whores himself out enough without you helping him turn tricks.
heckler73
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Ahhh, but they bury these secrets of the Universe in mathematical appendices, through complexly derived and contrived equations of the mysteries (not unlike arcane spells). Much of it is impenetrable to the average human, or forgotten amongst dusty shelves and storage boxes.
While those with the knowledge have the power to control the very forces of nature, and bend them to their will; akin to demi-gods...and the masses are captured in awe.
Some of those masses go on to the Secret Halls of Academia, to train under priests and wizards--guardians of the deeper secrets; gatekeepers of enlightenment, etc.
I'd say that qualifies as occult, by definition.
abandonconflict
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You might be on to something here. Maybe if science were more accessible it wouldn't seem like magic. I think at the core what we have in such a debate is essentially the oldest philosophical duality known. It can be found in some form or another lurking beneath the surface of any debate, from friendly to polemic.
The ancient Greek peoples had many philosophical traditions which often opposed eachother. You had your Aristotle and you had Plato. You had platonists and you had nominalists. You had hedonists and you had ascetics. You had epicureans and you had stoics.
I posit that at the core, you had two basic ways of processing information that you gained through your senses in order to form a perspective. Debate long enough with someone regarding philosophy, religion or politics and you find that while on the surface you have much in common, at the core you have wholly different ways of forming opinions.
The hedonists just wanted to be happy so they made happiness the most important thing to seek and devoted themselves to indulgence. Does that mean ascetics didn't want to be happy? No, they believed that self restraint would ultimately make them happy.
Back to science. If I understand you correctly, you are sardonically expressing a desire for science to be more accessible. You are scientifically proficient and wish that a higher percentage of mankind were also.
If this is correct, you are of the opinion that what has been called magic has simply been research, as science is today. If not, and you are not being sarcastic, science is magic.
Obviously, in the sense that initiation into the art of knowledge is not easily accessible to all, science seems like the occult alchemy of bygone centuries. I don't think that it has to be.
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ghostdriver
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heckler73
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I can only really offer an opinion from the Physics side of Nat Sci, to which I'd say it is a Rebis (not to be confused with rebus, although it is certainly one of those, too).
Through putrefaction and purification, the two elements--research and magic--unite.
And that is what makes it superior in the world of Occult Philosophy (as Henry Cornelius Agrippa would've phrased it).
Research, in and of itself, is nothing but a tool. It is the Earth and Water of alchemy; it is the senses of perception.
Magic is the Fire and Air; it is the imagination, the perception of self.
These two things must be harnessed together in order to the pierce the veil of Isis, as it were. The funny thing is "religion" (for lack of a better term) had moments in history where it adopted this idea, but loses it in time, regressing back into magic and "because God".
Take your example of Ascetics, or even Shamen...what do they really do? In the former, they deny the senses, and in the latter, they fuck'em up, both for the purposes of self-actualization.
The Nat Sci's start from the other direction, with the perception of self already established, using Research to broaden the scope and refine the selective acuity of the senses of perception.
Oddly, I don't know if one can exist without the other. Some could argue Nat Sci's are out to disprove Deus, but I am inclined to think otherwise. It's not so much about disproving the existence of Flying Spaghetti Monsters, but rather taking back some real-estate from them and using it for our needs and desires.
So in the end, you are correct on both accounts.
Give me Loki, give me the Raven...I'll provide some popcorn.
ghostdriver
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This whole Darwin lie propaganda is pushed so government doesn't have problems when people are killing people in the holocaust coming.
When they start killing millions of people and claim they are doing it for the greater good religion is the worlds problem.
Then you will realize their religion, darwins religion is worshipping the anti Christ.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqyHkxbj_zg
How obvious things are it's painfully hilarious.
This brain washing anti Christ religion is like the Nazi Holocaust.
Will you care if you see people being killed for no reason? You just consider yourself pond scum, and other human beings too why is murder not okay right?
The population is going to have a shock when they realize they are in a battle of Good vs evil. And they willingly let themselves be exterminated like sheep. Lets see the Georgia guidstones say reduce the population to 500 million, we have like what 7 Billion?
You think you will be one of the "elite" that doesn't get killed? LOL no they will disarm the people, kill the threats first, drag masses to fema camps, kill them in groups there, keep a small amount of people to be slaved and make slaves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzARcrxKT4A
Just like how people are scared to read THE HOLY BIBLE people will be scared to even watch these videos.
A lot of people think they can just stick their head in the sand like a ostrich, and continue to waste their life away doing whatever it is they do in their little hole they have created from reality.
Movies, Shows, videogames, facebook, pornography...
"Nothing bad could ever happen to me" they think." Not here not now.... I will deal with it when it happens haha no use worrying now! haha.........." - That's the devil stealing the truth form you...
People don't like talking about death, talking about hell and sin... Because it makes them FEEL uncomfortable so they avoid it..
They avoid PAIN...
Prolonging the pain is making it unfathomably worse for yourself.... Stop procrastinating and address the issues.
Stop being afraid.
Hallelujah that we get to be here in this pivotal point in time before the great judgment day of THE LORD. Glory to LORD THE CREATOR and HIS Son LORD JESUS CHRIST forever and ever Amen.
When they start killing millions of people and claim they are doing it for the greater good religion is the worlds problem.
Then you will realize their religion, darwins religion is worshipping the anti Christ.
How obvious things are it's painfully hilarious.
This brain washing anti Christ religion is like the Nazi Holocaust.
Will you care if you see people being killed for no reason? You just consider yourself pond scum, and other human beings too why is murder not okay right?
The population is going to have a shock when they realize they are in a battle of Good vs evil. And they willingly let themselves be exterminated like sheep. Lets see the Georgia guidstones say reduce the population to 500 million, we have like what 7 Billion?
You think you will be one of the "elite" that doesn't get killed? LOL no they will disarm the people, kill the threats first, drag masses to fema camps, kill them in groups there, keep a small amount of people to be slaved and make slaves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzARcrxKT4A
Just like how people are scared to read THE HOLY BIBLE people will be scared to even watch these videos.
A lot of people think they can just stick their head in the sand like a ostrich, and continue to waste their life away doing whatever it is they do in their little hole they have created from reality.
Movies, Shows, videogames, facebook, pornography...
"Nothing bad could ever happen to me" they think." Not here not now.... I will deal with it when it happens haha no use worrying now! haha.........." - That's the devil stealing the truth form you...
People don't like talking about death, talking about hell and sin... Because it makes them FEEL uncomfortable so they avoid it..
They avoid PAIN...
Prolonging the pain is making it unfathomably worse for yourself.... Stop procrastinating and address the issues.
Stop being afraid.
Hallelujah that we get to be here in this pivotal point in time before the great judgment day of THE LORD. Glory to LORD THE CREATOR and HIS Son LORD JESUS CHRIST forever and ever Amen.
Dr Kynes
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ghostdriver
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^^^ I covered these cult religions in my thread forbidden truth.
When THE HOLY BIBLE says take up the serpent and not be bitten it's talking about Satan as the serpent not a poisonous snake.
If you did a little research you would know how ignorant this is and how that's NOT what GOD wants you to do...
Obvious you're trying to change the topic..
This isn't something that can go away, and even if they promised you a spot if you're a mason or police or military...When they are done using you THEY WILL KILL YOU then you have to answer to GOD. Which everyone will.... There was seven videos hours long and you reply minutes after my post and claim is all a lie!!! Watching them in that time would be impossible.Who would post on things before they even know what it is?I don't think half of the replies on this site is real I think it's filled with little undercover informant spies designed to break up people gathering and obtaining information.
Like youtube.
When THE HOLY BIBLE says take up the serpent and not be bitten it's talking about Satan as the serpent not a poisonous snake.
If you did a little research you would know how ignorant this is and how that's NOT what GOD wants you to do...
Obvious you're trying to change the topic..
This isn't something that can go away, and even if they promised you a spot if you're a mason or police or military...When they are done using you THEY WILL KILL YOU then you have to answer to GOD. Which everyone will.... There was seven videos hours long and you reply minutes after my post and claim is all a lie!!! Watching them in that time would be impossible.Who would post on things before they even know what it is?I don't think half of the replies on this site is real I think it's filled with little undercover informant spies designed to break up people gathering and obtaining information.
Like youtube.
ghostdriver
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DonAlejandroVega
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UN Agenda 21 is the Matrix.....agreed. I guess even a blind squirrel finds a nut, now an' then.
DonAlejandroVega
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"Forbidden Truth" is on my reading list; between "50 Shades of Grey," and the back of a box of Froot Loops
ginwilly
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DonAlejandroVega
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its practicing its stone-throwing pose..............
Harrekin
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I find your cult of child molestors offensive, I don't spam bullshit everywhere about it tho.
abandonconflict
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DonAlejandroVega
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if Yaweh created Satan, and does not restrain him, he is in collusion with him, and certainly merits no worship.
if Yaweh cannot control Satan, he is not all-powerful.
yo no sabe, senor............
if Yaweh cannot control Satan, he is not all-powerful.
yo no sabe, senor............