The Seed Collectors Thread

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Good luck Batman. Saddening that a plant so amazing can still cause so much anguish. I told my wife before I married her that I smoked before I met her and she said again when I got back into growing, "don't ask, don't tell" (dont tell me the PH of your soil or how many lumens you have, I DGAF).....she doesnt smoke but realizes that not supporting my interests only screws her. She like the smell of Chem.

I haven't been posting as much lately because I like to take pics and I feel like the Atlanta Michael Vick of plants right now. Trying not to spread TMV (i hate cigs, but i smokem), a continued Nitro battle with A13 x A11, and a horrible male ratio coming out of my Veg closet. My perpetual is all fucked. Early-Flipped my GPython, 3 IF Spc Bubba, and 2 Jaffa Cake today (31 days) because I need a late summer break to clean the tent and start over. D-Kush with TMV looks great and the Snozzberry looks "ok" 6 weeks in. I was doing too much internet browsing and research instead of garden time this past month. Felt uncomfortable the other day trying to price some leftovers to a friend. I am going to start popping more beans. I need 3 insane moms.

Gonna spread some rep around, esp you Sketch. Hope you guys have a great weekend, and lets hope the mail fairy helps Madd out.
Man im bummed mad gear isnt showing up, but all we can do is hope
 

headbender

Active Member
09-08-2009, 02:42 PM
#37
TomHill
Senior Member

Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,344



Hello folks,

Apparently out of about 1200 viruses able to infect plants, only 5 infect cannabis regularly - Tobacco mosaic virus (TMV) is not one of them. Paulsen reported TMV causing symptomless infections in cannabis (Hemp Diseases and Pests).

I suppose it is possible, however I think it is unlikely we are looking at TMV on the boards in the last few years. As far as ChemD tissue samples supposedly testing positive for "the Virus" at UC Davis or where ever, well... If I remember correctly, this evidence came to light via a rival breeder right about the exact time Rez was releasing his -at the time- latest ChemD work. Meanwhile the rival or a friend was working on a "virus free" line too. I could be wrong, but I found it all somewhat suspicious I guess.

If we knew we had a virus -or some other systemic disease- there's tissue culture (easier said than done probably), or try to breed your way out while employing thermotherapy to seeds each generation before sprouting.

Again, I doubt this is what we're dealing with. I suspect it is a harmless case of inbreeding depression coupled with a threshold effect. That these symptoms are often showing up and "spreading" in the Chem, OG's, diesels etc, is just a little too much of a coincidence imo. More likely that it "spread" (read: the trait expressed itself among plants sharing that trait) right at the time an environmental threshold was met. That some folks are reporting symptoms and some reporting none (with the exact same clone) is a little off the mark too imo if we were looking a virus. There might be a temperature sensitive threshold to be reached, it might have to do with feeding, it could be almost anything, but folks who "have the TMV" are very likely doing something different with their environment than folks who "don't know what these other guys are talking about". The trait can be there, and require some environmental trigger for it to be expressed, this is quite common. This seems the most logical explanation to me, but who knows. -Tom
 

gudkarma

New Member
damn batman !

...hopefully you can stash clones w/ people u trust.
...hopefully this will pass and no drama will result.
...hopefully a friend or two will come to your aide.

if u need anything (from a far away place to stash clones to help w/ my pick up truck) , cause you're only a hop, skip, and jump away , flip a PM.

play safe & very sorry to hear.
makes me way sad.

i say : cant trust anybody that doesnt grow dank.

even then : i've been fucked over by 90% of these (internet) lying fag face growers.

leaves 10% with any integrity... most of whom post here.

kinda odd really.
 

Twisted Pleasure BX

Active Member
Happy freekin Friday everybody.
U know getting answers out of u guys is tighter then a knats ass!
JK hey bombed burner how she lookin on yeild? The pics I've seen she looks big but not really dense.
Just wondering what ur thoughts were on that... So far.

I used to have a girl back in the day that had structure like that. Frosty that's why I want to run with it...

And I had a dream Last night I had to tear shit down freekin hope skunks ok...hate that shit. Fuckin assholes runnin our shit. Our god givin right to grow and smoke a god givin plant. Stupid!

A~goo I'm in the same boat
My girl smokes but dnt want me to talk about it.. Or give her anything to Potent ever sense I sliped her a squar under a jalapenio on a natcho one night. lol light weight.
Aaa but what a night... Ahh memories.

And ya I'm waiting for MADD's gear to show. Lossing sleep over here. Fingers crossed...but MADD did tell me last night he ain't worried he is always in good
Spirits that guy....think he is rubbin off on me though. That bitch is twisted... LOL love him...

That's crazy about that Chem shit.
Good reads..

I know its to early...I'm done.

Peace and Health people.
T~P
 

SketchyGrower

Well-Known Member
who's waiting on beans to show up right now? I have one package that made it here was the 2nd ordered in the line of 3 total 1st still missing and the 3rd is not really late yet.

so that is two for me in the wilds still
 

Twisted Pleasure BX

Active Member
Got one that just moved out after 5 days and is now local this morn.

And one is sitting there two days right now... Ill let cha know but no
Problems. I had one that last bodhi drop that didn't update for
Like 7 days tud said dnt worry. And they were right got them.
They were my goji to. So I ordered two more packs cause I got scared. And ended up with 4 damnit! So I gave two out. Cause bodhi is so kind to me so I figured I would pay it forward. My one bud In uK can't order he is a happy bitch right about now lol...

Sorry sketch not trying to rub it in.
GL
 

bombudburner

Active Member
Happy freekin Friday everybody.
U know getting answers out of u guys is tighter then a knats ass!
JK hey bombed burner how she lookin on yeild? The pics I've seen she looks big but not really dense.
Just wondering what ur thoughts were on that... So far.

I used to have a girl back in the day that had structure like that. Frosty that's why I want to run with it...

I know its to early...I'm done.

Peace and Health people.
T~P
If the calyxes swell at the end she'll have some weight to her. The buds do have a somewhat open/loose structure, but I think that will help with mold cuz the colas are starting to get some girth.

@lastwood- that's a bad name. I don't even like calling crystal meth by that name.

@allowishus- wasn't gonna say anything, but if you actually had TMV all your plants would be dead and you'd be f@cked. So be happy that you don't have it. : )
 

karmas a bitch

Well-Known Member
I've been hearing people blame tmv a lot lately. I've only seen it once(I'm pretty sure it was at least). I let a buddy smoke cigs in my room while we worked. Once it showed,everything was dead within two days. Every single plant. So I agree with bbb
 

SketchyGrower

Well-Known Member
I really don't understand this TMV stuff... I smoke my cowboy killers next to my ladies almost everyday. almost. more then just one cig... never had it.. wondering if it's due to temps? extreme handling of the plant while smoking?
just a little odd to me
 

shizniz34

Well-Known Member
Damn thats pretty sweet. I'm hoping they will add 10 packs of the grape stomper bx2 or grape stomper x og. They got 5 packs listed now.
On another note, attitude credit + my birthday today= more beans

it's a strain of your choice from the same breeder you purchase from
 
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