mr2shim
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No shit Sherlock. Conservatives have been calling him a failure since April 2009. You know,... 3 months after he was in office. You give him no chance, you never have and you never will.
The U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights are OFFICALLY DEAD!
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Samwell Seed Well
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some joker on fox gave it 6 days . . . . . . the dems had made a mockery of government with all the in-fighting and the GOP has turned into a circus act, and all the dem throw peanuts and drink mescal
the gov is blotted and bureaucratic . . .
MacGuyver4.2.0
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It REALLY amazes me... that people are still playing the blame game, when it all boils down to ONE THING- Your rights (including the basic right to a fair trial and jury) are being overlooked by most of the posts here.
I could CARE LESS who the current lame ass president is, the problem is that he/she/it is doing NOTHING TO COUNTER THIS obvious violation of rights and has in effect even condoned it by not responding.
For all of those who think the second amendment is not that important, you are part of the problem, not the solution. The founding fathers of this country KNEW that the 'right to keep and bear arms' was required to keep corrupt, evil, tyranny laced government leaders in check. That's why they listed it right after freedom of speech and the right to assemble, etc. That makes them smarter than you, even whilst long dead.
When the government comes pounding on your door (with their guns) and takes away everything you ever worked for in your life and gasp... maybe even your pathetic life, I will not shed a tear.
Cowards and slackers get what they deserve.
I could CARE LESS who the current lame ass president is, the problem is that he/she/it is doing NOTHING TO COUNTER THIS obvious violation of rights and has in effect even condoned it by not responding.
For all of those who think the second amendment is not that important, you are part of the problem, not the solution. The founding fathers of this country KNEW that the 'right to keep and bear arms' was required to keep corrupt, evil, tyranny laced government leaders in check. That's why they listed it right after freedom of speech and the right to assemble, etc. That makes them smarter than you, even whilst long dead.
When the government comes pounding on your door (with their guns) and takes away everything you ever worked for in your life and gasp... maybe even your pathetic life, I will not shed a tear.
Cowards and slackers get what they deserve.
MellowFarmer
Well-Known Member
cool okay so is anyone else ready to start brainstorming now?
canndo
Well-Known Member
If you have no right to speak your mind, no right to address the government on equal terms, no right to be free of unreasonable search, then you have nothing. I was pointing out that the right seems to believe that the whole of the Constitution is only to protect one's right to property and weapons. We see that in the constant attacks on the ACLU, an organization that protects rights other than property and firearms.
canndo
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We never fail to see someone with this same ideology. But let me ask you this - how is it possible under your understanding of the constitution, that our rights are stripped away and we have "corrupt, evil, tyranny laced government leaders currently not "in check" when we have over 200 million guns in private hands?
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Oh yeh? Sez you!! cn
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Tell me that this would have been less likely with a Romney in the driver's seat. cn
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
It would be nice if the ACLU also covered firearms rights. They don't do a good job there at all. It's an unfortunate caricature of the liberal stereotype; they're selective about what is and isn't a civil right. I don't know how the ACLU has moved in re property rights. cn
canndo
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They aren't big on property rights - there is actually another rightist group out there that does this. The ACLU doesn't hold that individual firearm ownership is important and I don't have a problem with that so long as the NRA is doing their thing.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
And that's my beef with the ACLU ... they aren't A at all but more I. Let an international civil liberties union discard our American peculiarities as irrelevant (from across a border), and let's recenter the ACLU As an American organization, it can't properly slight gun or property rights as enumerated in the core documents.
The NRA is indeed a group on the political right. We need an NRA-analog on the left as well. Jmo. cn
MellowFarmer
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One reason is that we have been conditioned to believe this is the greatest country in the world and that this is freedom.
How many of those 200 million guns are really in private hands? You need to exclude all empolyed by the
Government i.e. cops military