The UK Growers Thread!

W Dragon

W Dragon

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a soil mix i used with good success and would do again if i stopped going to the hydro shop for it is johnn innes no.2 7parts, perlite 1.5parts, and builders sand 1.5parts all bought from bnq it works out more expensive than bio bizz soil but works well enough i imagine you could keep the cost down further by scrapping the sand and adding extra perlite but i haven't tried it so can't vouch for it
 
The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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tip top toker said:
Cries for help or distress. It's a lot more vague than you think.
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Lol, dude don't fuck about if it's not black and white say so,it would have to be a pretty random scenario for it to happen and the chances of such a scenario (with any common sense) are so slim that it doesn't justify worry,cries for help or distress shouldn't be coming from a grow site for example.
 
tip top toker

tip top toker

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Lol, dude don't fuck about if it's not black and white say so,it would have to be a pretty random scenario for it to happen and the chances of such a scenario (with any common sense) are so slim that it doesn't justify worry,cries for help or distress shouldn't be coming from a grow site for example.
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It is very simple. The police have the power to force entrey to save life. If a member of the public phones up the police and states that someone is about to commiut suicide, the police get involved and have power of entry. I have had this happen to myelf, from a phone call from someone 50 miles away.

There have been instances where growers have been busted due to a warning to the police of a suicide, leading to the discovery of a grow, as you say, the odds would be slim, but it happened and most likely as a tip off to the polic rom a rival than a caring friend, it is much easier to have the police go straight through a door for 1 reason, to go and find a farm, than it is to recieve a tip off that it is a grow house, they then need to go and find evidence.

While the chances are slim, they do happen, so it is better to know where you stand,at the time i figured bugger off, no warrant then you ent coming in, i found out otherwise.

and technically everything is slim as every single single item of evidence for a warrant can be jsutified in 2 seconds to a judge on their own, but add them all together and you find yourself with a warrant
 
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sneaker69

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Matchbox said:
theres been talking about this a bit earlier in this thread, try from about page 800, maybe before...

Don't think you can actually get done for just thermal the police need way more than that for a warrant... if they do ask just say you have an aquarium and your growing corals/reef stuff 'cause you need r8 high power lights for that.
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Could we see the aquarium?
No!
Why no?
Cause I'm growing weed now FUCK OFF!
 
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ffilps

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kershivo said:
mines on a pay as you go meter...it costs me around 12-14 per week to run a 600w hps with fans. Thats including all other household items aswell though. I got a digital ballast which helped out a bit.

so if i switch that breaker i can tell if its broken because the credit will still decrease?
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It will still decrease because you pay a higher rate for having a meter as opposed to no pay and go meter. . . . you pay for the privalage of not having to pay for energy if you don't need it if you get my meaning.
 
The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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tip top toker said:
It is very simple. The police have the power to force entrey to save life. If a member of the public phones up the police and states that someone is about to commiut suicide, the police get involved and have power of entry. I have had this happen to myelf, from a phone call from someone 50 miles away.

There have been instances where growers have been busted due to a warning to the police of a suicide, leading to the discovery of a grow, as you say, the odds would be slim, but it happened and most likely as a tip off to the polic rom a rival than a caring friend, it is much easier to have the police go straight through a door for 1 reason, to go and find a farm, than it is to recieve a tip off that it is a grow house, they then need to go and find evidence.

While the chances are slim, they do happen, so it is better to know where you stand,at the time i figured bugger off, no warrant then you ent coming in, i found out otherwise.

and technically everything is slim as every single single item of evidence for a warrant can be jsutified in 2 seconds to a judge on their own, but add them all together and you find yourself with a warrant
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The conversation was about the best place to rent a gaff for the purpose of growing weed, private landlord or letting agency.
1) How the fuck does the other person know the address?
2) What the fuck are you doing living there?
3) Why is it in your name? (just in case)
4) They would still need a warrant,this means the person knows you pretty well for the police not to consider it a prank call (remember the magic words "beyond reasonable doubt").
Fail on all counts,like i said common sense.
 
tip top toker

tip top toker

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The police do not need a warrant so save a life. That is as simple as i can put it.




oh, and "beyond reasonable doubts" it's more like "must have reasonable grounds" and that is quoted straight from the government website..

I'm simply stating some experience i've had and reading from a list explaining police powers, that seems like some basic common sense to me :)
 
The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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tip top toker said:
The police do not need a warrant so save a life. That is as simple as i can put it for you.




oh, and "beyond reasonable doubts" it's more like "must have reasonable grounds" and that is quoted straight from the government website..

I'm simply stating some experience i've had and reading from a list explaining police powers, that seems like some basic common sense to me :)
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You are getting "beyond resonable doubt" and "have resonable grounds" very very mixed up,think about it.
To get a warrent of entry the evidence must prove "beyond reasonable doubt" that an offence is being or about to be commited, that's why when in magistrates court you have 3 judges (odd number) and in crown you are tried by a jury of 13 of your peers (odd number),it must be a majority vote (beyond reasonable doubt).

I hope you don't experience similar events ever again.
you're curcumstances were unfortunate but could have been avoided,if you don't live at the grow site and you don't tell anybody then this very random scenario could never happen,ever!

Know you're rights.
 
Matchbox

Matchbox

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I think what TTT is saying, is it's true you can't enter a property without a warrant etc but in the context he is describing, you can, for instance there is some sort of emergency someone dying (whether they are or not or in TTT's case someone phoning from goodness knows where) if the police were to knock and 'know' from said phone call that you may be unconscious or dying they may enter as with the ambulance and fire brigade, its just bad luck if that happens and they stumble on your grow because of some douche making a phone prank call...

but what I understand that your saying is they can't enter no matter what, which is also true but given the above circumstances has its various waivers, as to what the police/ambulance/fire brigade believe to be reasonable, doesn't come down to whether you think its reasonable entry if they have reason to believe a life is in danger etc, they will come in.

sorry to intrude :)

edit: don't most people live at their grow sites? cos i'd be damned if i could afford 2 rents and most people except commercial growers.. just curious
 
tip top toker

tip top toker

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The Yorkshireman said:
You are getting "beyond resonable doubt" and "have resonable grounds" very very mixed up,think about it.
To get a warrent of entry the evidence must prove "beyond reasonable doubt" that an offence is being or about to be commited, that's why when in magistrates court you have 3 judges (odd number) and in crown you are tried by a jury of 13 of your peers (odd number),it must be a majority vote (beyond reasonable doubt).
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You're not listening. They do not need a warrant for this reason of entry.

I mean hell, they can force entry if you refuse to turn your music down after a complaint without the need for a warrant.

Matchbox has it right.
 
The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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tip top toker said:
You're not listening. They do not need a warrant for this reason of entry.

I mean hell, they can force entry if you refuse to turn your music down after a complaint without the need for a warrant.

Matchbox has it right.
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And that would be because it's a criminal offence to pollute with noise after 10pm,and if somebody complains about the noise then it becomes a public disturbance offence. Hence it has been proved beyond reasonable doubt that an offence is being commited, he's stood at you're front door and can hear the loud music!
 
The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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Matchbox said:
I think what TTT is saying, is it's true you can't enter a property without a warrant etc but in the context he is describing, you can, for instance there is some sort of emergency someone dying (whether they are or not or in TTT's case someone phoning from goodness knows where) if the police were to knock and 'know' from said phone call that you may be unconscious or dying they may enter as with the ambulance and fire brigade, its just bad luck if that happens and they stumble on your grow because of some douche making a phone prank call...

but what I understand that your saying is they can't enter no matter what, which is also true but given the above circumstances has its various waivers, as to what the police/ambulance/fire brigade believe to be reasonable, doesn't come down to whether you think its reasonable entry if they have reason to believe a life is in danger etc, they will come in.

sorry to intrude :)

edit: don't most people live at their grow sites? cos i'd be damned if i could afford 2 rents and most people except commercial growers.. just curious
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in the context of the original conversation,living at the property wasn't mentioned so the scenario was a bit fucking pedantic really.
 
tip top toker

tip top toker

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And the point would be that it is another example of where they do not need a judge aproved warrant. The police do not always need a warrant to force entry into your house, that is all i am trying to say..
 
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