The UK Growers Thread!

[Don Gin and Ton]

yeah i got all my orders in and received, i noticed its down again tho.

agora has a fair amount of ''downtime'' some say its moving servers? keeping up security etc, some that they do it on purpose in order to not be the biggest site out there and in turn not get all the heat.

fuck knows but it regulary go's down mate and they very really if ever give any prior warning, i wouldnt worry to much, but yeah a spanish hash vendor did cancel my order and send me a message saying agora was due to be raided any day, he also went into great detail on how to order of him at evolution, plus it was on the back of another 24hr of agora being down i think it was just shite tbh mate.

i put order in Wed so hopefully they'll have all been open/shipped yesterday... aye i'd read about a load of downtime but never really experienced it myself barring the odd time. not like i'm logged in 24/7 tho.

I'll not sweat it like. para pablo obviously is like haha

 

[The Yorkshireman]

is that mandy off the darknet like? I can get that cheap locally but have to buy ounces. if there's folks shotting that local why bother selling tabs. if not then the 130's for a pearl diver are the best bet.

I don't know where it's from mate but I've had that same price quoted to me in 3 different citys over the last couple of months.

It's not readily available but I can get it in shots at that.



Still I've yet to see somebody come up with some snow white, crystalline powdered proper though.
It's always this re-rocked coloured shite or even an analogue passed off as that can't be spotted until you actually take it.

 

[newuserlol]

I don't know where it's from mate but I've had that same price quoted to me in 3 different citys over the last couple of months.

It's not readily available but I can get it in shots at that.



Still I've yet to see somebody come up with some snow white, crystalline powdered proper though.
It's always this re-rocked coloured shite or even an analogue passed off as that can't be spotted until you actually take it.

this is the problem, so much shitty mandy out there nowdays a real glut of if it, either poorly made shit or other shit being passed of as mandy.

its as cheap as 10-15 a gram from some on the darknet but pure shite i should imagine, then the snow white or most call it champangne mandy is like 35-50 lol

id rather a proven pressed pill all day long personally.

 

[WisdomFarmer]

I take it all with a big pinch of scepticism untill I've done/used it my self, then make me mind up, what can I say .@ Hydro, started using Turps start of flower.

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

I don't know where it's from mate but I've had that same price quoted to me in 3 different citys over the last couple of months.
It's not readily available but I can get it in shots at that.
Still I've yet to see somebody come up with some snow white, crystalline powdered proper though.
It's always this re-rocked coloured shite or even an analogue passed off as that can't be spotted until you actually take it.

that's why I buy dutch. the safrole is easy for them to get ahold and process. I've not bought crystal in donkeys. i'm with rambo on a decent proven batch of clog dancers any day.

 

[Ghettogrower187]

Best bit a Mandy I had was off mercova or what ever his name was I got a gram was 1 nice big crystal and was almost clear was a really nice buzz as well lol chucked a few shapes out when I had that fucker lool​

 

[zeddd]

that terps is truly fukin impressive, even as a conversation piece

 

[R1b3n4]

wrong diagnosis, amazing how convincing utter bollox can sound when its said with conviction lol

as happy as ever i see lol

 

[Ghettogrower187]

I've been looking at something else today its called earth juice sugar peak grand finale lol u use it last 3 weeks of flower might even have a play with that next round see what I can get out these ladies

 

[R1b3n4]

Getting my SOG sorted today, had enough of this cutting malarky , load of gringo in a SOG for half the room and other half to start some 12/12 FS so its staggered a bit

 

[The Yorkshireman]

I take it all with a big pinch of scepticism untill I've done/used it my self.

I posted the products MSDS sheet weeks ago before folk started rushing to it like lemmings,

http://www.hhydro.com/files/MSDS/Terpinator_MSDS.pdf


SECTION 1: PRODUCT NAME AND COMPANY IDENTIFICATION

PRODUCT NAME: Terpinator 0-0-4

SECTION 3: COMPOSITION.

Components: Potassium Sulphate.
CAS No: 7778-80-5



Here is a bottle of 99%+ pure, lab grade Potassium Sulphate with an N-P-K of 0-0-50 from my nute cupboard,



Note that the Cas number (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAS_Registry_Number) is exactly the same as Turpinator's, meaning the chemical structure is exactly the same, only it's form has changed i,e now a piss week oil with an N-P-K of 0-0-4.




They then wrap that piss weak Potassium Sulphate oil in an aggressive container with a robot head, a catchy name and a couple of paragraphs of poorly constructed marketing jargon that screams quackery (typical US) without any information what so ever on how it ACTUALLY works or any objectivity towards the product it's self.

http://www.terpinator.com/Product_Information.html - No info about the product aside from dosage and application

The same poorly constructed marketing jargon paragraph's are repeated all over the internet, changing slightly like 'Chinese whispers' every time it's posted, eventually being repeated by the lemmings that buy it as a justification for buying it in the first place.

The supplied information is not intended to tell you what's in the product OR how it works but to socially engineer you into buying it by playing on egotistical fantasy's within your own mind.

It's even better for the product owner if somebody else socially engineers you into buying it for them, by word of mouth for example, especially on faceless forums and social media platforms like here, it adds to the ego thing.

The psychology behind the fact that people will make a purchase based purely on the hearsay and anecdotes of another person who they 'perceive' to be 'trust worthy' regardless if they have ever met and regardless of any facts is amazing but predictable.

It's the same phenomenon that created the i-pad/pod/phone/fail fanboy craze, teenage girls that look like clones and this never ending cycle of pseudo scientific, snake oil products produced by the commercial cannabis scene.




And I can say this with a matter of fact because my Mrs wrote the book.

 

[Ghettogrower187]

Boring lol

 

[zeddd]

lol works tho, such an incredible smell and wax production with this new product youde be mad not to use it lol

 

[The Yorkshireman]

that's why I buy dutch. the safrole is easy for them to get ahold and process. I've not bought crystal in donkeys. i'm with rambo on a decent proven batch of clog dancers any day.

There's very few labs making it with sassafras oil derived safrole these days, most are buying the PMK keytone as an oil or dehydrated powder from eastern Europe/China,

Off the top of my head the keytone is only 2 steps away from MDMA, rxn to freebase oil and then crystallise to powder.

And just to play devils advocate I wouldn't trust somebody's word that their shit is lab tested unless you see a copy of the test, which should be quite comprehensive, there's a lad on Evolution who's started to buy listings and then send them off to 'Energy Control' in Spain for testing (50e a test) out of his own pocket and then present the tests online for all to see and the vendors to comment, particularly because of all the Levasimole being put into the coke supply at source.

There's some MDMA 'Rebel Alliance' sell that looks like big grey chunks of the Berlin Wall touted as 97%!?

Then the pills are supposed to be made from exactly the same molly that the vendors sell in rocks.
They don't tend to put good stuff in pills and rock out shit, it's usually the other way round.


Here's proper MDMA powder made from some sassafras oil derived safrole keytone PMK.....

Bubbling crystal from freebase.

MDMA crystal powder after vacuum filter.

Dry, unwashed MDMA crystal powder ready to go.


And some MDA made from sassafras oil derived PMK keytone but even these guys still get pure white crystals from some fucking weird and highly unorthodox bright blue keytone! (no it's not supposed to be blue, it's supposed to be a slight golden yellow, honey colour but....)

Distilled blue (!?) keytone.

Bubbling freebase in DCM.

Unwashed MDA crystal powder after vacuum filter.

Washed and dry MDA crystal powder ready to go.


I look at stuff out there and can't help but scratch my head.
To get molly that's so dirty brown like it is most of the time must only be down to the shiftiest 2/3 step process going with no cleaning along the way, it's the only reason why it would have so much shit to be washed out in the end product.

But then if properly made PMK keytone oil IS used like from the masses of online labs selling it then it would be impossible for the end product to be as dirty as it is, the only way I can imagine it happening is if some are pretty much just dumping raw safrole straight into the end rxn down to freebase (!?) which considering the profit margin, time saved and lack of brain needed to do that doesn't really surprise me.



Some dodgy shit's going on somewhere, dafuq's all these dirty moonrocks coming from! lol

 

[The Yorkshireman]

lol works tho, such an incredible smell and wax production with this new product youde be mad not to use it lol

..........

 

[WisdomFarmer]

I posted the products MSDS sheet weeks ago before folk started rushing to it like lemmings,

http://www.hhydro.com/files/MSDS/Terpinator_MSDS.pdf


SECTION 1: PRODUCT NAME AND COMPANY IDENTIFICATION

PRODUCT NAME: Terpinator 0-0-4
SECTION 3: COMPOSITION.

Components: Potassium Sulphate.
CAS No: 7778-80-5



Here is a bottle of 99%+ pure, lab grade Potassium Sulphate with an N-P-K of 0-0-50 from my nute cupboard,

View attachment 3354688 View attachment 3354689

Note that the Cas number (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAS_Registry_Number) is exactly the same as Turpinator's, meaning the chemical structure is exactly the same, only it's form has changed i,e now a piss week oil with an N-P-K of 0-0-4.




They then wrap that piss weak Potassium Sulphate oil in an aggressive container with a robot head, a catchy name and a couple of paragraphs of poorly constructed marketing jargon that screams quackery (typical US) without any information what so ever on how it ACTUALLY works or any objectivity towards the product it's self.

http://www.terpinator.com/Product_Information.html - No info about the product aside from dosage and application

The same poorly constructed marketing jargon paragraph's are repeated all over the internet, changing slightly like 'Chinese whispers' every time it's posted, eventually being repeated by the lemmings that buy it as a justification for buying it in the first place.

The supplied information is not intended to tell you what's in the product OR how it works but to socially engineer you into buying it by playing on egotistical fantasy's within your own mind.

It's even better for the product owner if somebody else socially engineers you into buying it for them, by word of mouth for example, especially on faceless forums and social media platforms like here, it adds to the ego thing.

The psychology behind the fact that people will make a purchase based purely on the hearsay and anecdotes of another person who they 'perceive' to be 'trust worthy' regardless if they have ever met and regardless of any facts is amazing but predictable.

It's the same phenomenon that created the i-pad/pod/phone/fail fanboy craze, teenage girls that look like clones and this never ending cycle of pseudo scientific, snake oil products produced by the commercial cannabis scene.




And I can say this with a matter of fact because my Mrs wrote the book.

Fuck it then, won't be using that again ! Lol

 

[WisdomFarmer]

How's Ice doing ?

 

[The Yorkshireman]

Some old bint has just come to door from Macmillan.

Her: Hi, I'm from Macmillion but don't worry I'm not after any money.

Me: Good cos we don't give to charity.

Her: We're starting an lottery soon!

...........

 

[The Yorkshireman]

How's Ice doing ?

I've not heard from him in a while but we only really talk when there's business.

He's trying hard to move the last time we spoke a few weeks ago.

 

[WisdomFarmer]

^^^^^great stuff, as long as he's alive & well !.