The UK Growers Thread!

Pompeygrow said:
im on monthly and pay 220 ive only got one light a dimable ballast 250/400/600/600 boost
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Is that a hps light ? I'm trying to convince a friend to take a tent and 2 hps and grow at there's but the thought of an expensive light is off putting for them
Ghettogrower187 said:
Yeh its a bit tough ain't it, when u can get stardog at 120 a zip u just have to work it out and growing your own is always cheaper than buying it and it's always better smoke too, I'm spending around 180 a month on leccy x3.5 plus all the nutrients and the money spent on cuttings n shit your about a grand for a k of bud and all the trim and hash off it, winner winner chicken dinner
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I tell her all this but she doesn't smoke it so doesn't see the advantages ... a 2x4 and one light is the way forward I just don't see the prices coming down we've got used to the cost of living in general prices ... then the diesel went up and it's now normal to be paying 1.80 now the electric is going up as soon as we're used to it summit else will just seem to be gettin the life slowly squeezed out of us by the government
 
Mastergrow said:
Do u think it's still as good as it was baz or is it a bit watered down over the years?
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I listened to a podcast that said ... genetics don't diminish over time on there own it's more likely the plant has picked up viruses that we cannot see that's why they get less vigourous and so on .... Carn remember what podcast tho think it might have been first smoke of the day ... just wondered what's everyone's opinion on this ??
 
Liamp1603 said:
I listened to a podcast that said ... genetics don't diminish over time on there own it's more likely the plant has picked up viruses that we cannot see that's why they get less vigourous and so on .... Carn remember what podcast tho think it might have been first smoke of the day ... just wondered what's everyone's opinion on this ??
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I'd agree with that.
 
Liamp1603 said:
I listened to a podcast that said ... genetics don't diminish over time on there own it's more likely the plant has picked up viruses that we cannot see that's why they get less vigourous and so on .... Carn remember what podcast tho think it might have been first smoke of the day ... just wondered what's everyone's opinion on this ??
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I vaguely remember reading something to do with keeping mother plants, it went on about cell division not being infinite, apparently repeatedly taking clones for a new mom isn't the same as keeping a old mum because they diminish?

Idk if there's a word of truth in that but I thought it was the reason for 5/10 year old mums?
 
Star Dog said:
I vaguely remember reading something to do with keeping mother plants, it went on about cell division not being infinite, apparently repeatedly taking clones for a new mom isn't the same as keeping a old mum because they diminish?

Idk if there's a word of truth in that but I thought it was the reason for 5/10 year old mums?
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I always flowered the mother each time and took clones from the clones. I had a Shiva Shanti 2 clone going for years with zero issues.
 
Star Dog said:
I vaguely remember reading something to do with keeping mother plants, it went on about cell division not being infinite, apparently repeatedly taking clones for a new mom isn't the same as keeping a old mum because they diminish?

Idk if there's a word of truth in that but I thought it was the reason for 5/10 year old mums?
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So a clone from clone grow ? every time you grow one out , clone it for the next run keeps the vigour ? We're behind over in the Uk the tissue culture programmes they got in America and legal countries make it a whole lot easier to keep plants what they're meant to be health wise .... maybe within ten years we will have a legal Rec market
 
Liamp1603 said:
So a clone from clone grow ? every time you grow one out , clone it for the next run keeps the vigour ? We're behind over in the Uk the tissue culture programmes they got in America and legal countries make it a whole lot easier to keep plants what they're meant to be health wise .... maybe within ten years we will have a legal Rec market
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No i think it was claiming the opposite, if you keep a mother for a years you allegedly maintain the vigor and if you keep cloning repeating it'll loose vigor.

There's so much nonsense around weed it's difficult to take anything seriously.
 
Star Dog said:
No i think it was claiming the opposite, if you keep a mother for a years you allegedly maintain the vigor and if you keep cloning repeating it'll loose vigor.

There's so much nonsense around weed it's difficult to take anything seriously.
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ahh right it's a knife edge subject with most parts of cannabis ..... people feel strongly about whatever side they sit on which is good in a way
 
The oldest i have is two years old come November I've re cloned it a few times and it's still good to go.
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I've one i re potted in back February and I've just kept trimming it back, to clone from that just now would be less than ideal imo.
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And another that i re potted at the same time but I've cut back to the wood regularly.
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Lots of variables appear that affect the outcome, we'd all need to know all the fine details of the alleged dwindling genetics, not to mention the ability of the grower.

I've not found age to make any difference to vigor if I put the effort in before re cloning them.
 
Liamp1603 said:
I listened to a podcast that said ... genetics don't diminish over time on there own it's more likely the plant has picked up viruses that we cannot see that's why they get less vigourous and so on .... Carn remember what podcast tho think it might have been first smoke of the day ... just wondered what's everyone's opinion on this ??
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A bit of both i suppose i feel most will be linked to pathogens however like people plants have a lifespan dna has more errors as we age etc that being said cheese is 30+ romulan is way older if its the original cut i guess some lines lend themselves to it more than others as for clone of a clone same thing i think most of the time u can get away with it but maybe not with everything eventually it will pick up something or fizzle out without pathogens it could live a very long time id bet though
 
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