"THE ULTIMATE" Grow, ChroniCDooM Style!

HEY! Dr Nodes and Bushmaster are the same thing but the thing is Dr Nodes is EPA registered and Bushmaster is/has being pulled from shelves because of false labeling among other things and I'm not trying to rag the product I love Humboldts Own but they've always had slight issues like that...Great products...just need to be a little more upfront about things.

Flip The Script said:

HEY! Dr Nodes and Bushmaster are the same thing but the thing is Dr Nodes is EPA registered and Bushmaster is/has being pulled from shelves because of false labeling among other things and I'm not trying to rag the product I love Humboldts Own but they've always had slight issues like that...Great products...just need to be a little more upfront about things.

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Thanks FTS for the info on that. I've never used any Humboldts own products. Hmm now what to do. I did see some Dr. Nodes while I was picking up my Canna Coco A&B($29forboth). They wanted $55 for the Dr. Nodes. There's another place that sells the bushmaster for $34. Hey FTS have u used both? Have u used Dr. Nodes 3 weeks into flower. Thanks for any insight.

Hey Doom I have used bushmaster before and it is perfect for scrogs and cabs with limited space such as yours also alows for more lateral growth, more nodes, more flowers tighter flowers and heavier yeilds. Now I know for a fact that Dr Nodes does the same exact thing but with 1/2 of the stuff you don't want.

Now I am not going to use it this run only because I'm growing organic so I'm using Nitrozime an algae seaweed extract that contains ascophyllum nodosum seaweed. Ascophyllum nodosum is the same active ingredient that bushmaster and dr nodes uses but obviously theirs is chemcially balanced and other added supplemental hormones.

But I and the colleagues I have worked with recommend it to everybody. If I wasn't organic I'd use the hell out of it

Flip The Script said:

Hey Doom I have used bushmaster before and it is perfect for scrogs and cabs with limited space such as yours also alows for more lateral growth, more nodes, more flowers tighter flowers and heavier yeilds. Now I know for a fact that Dr Nodes does the same exact thing but with 1/2 of the stuff you don't want.

Now I am not going to use it this run only because I'm growing organic so I'm using Nitrozime an algae seaweed extract that contains ascophyllum nodosum seaweed. Ascophyllum nodosum is the same active ingredient that bushmaster and dr nodes uses but obviously theirs is chemcially balanced and other added supplemental hormones.

But I and the colleagues I have worked with recommend it to everybody. If I wasn't organic I'd use the hell out of it

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Right on FTS thanks for breaking it down. Sounds like you prefer the Dr. Nodes over the Bushmaster. I'm not sure which I want to get. I may just go with the BM. I like the price better but then I think of what ya said about them mislabeling. Hmm
I'm still at work and got a few hours to go before I can make it to the garden store and make up my friggin mind. Thanks!

Honestly bro it will not hurt you to get the BM (LOL) at all its been tried and tested its not that it doesn't work well its just that fine line. Its always up to you I suggest you get the bushmaster now and dr nodes your next run and see which one you prefer

What up chronics, hows it goin bro? plants are lookin good man, even the freak is lookin nice now i wonder if shes gunna chuck out some wierd lookin buds like the leafs!? would be cool man, lookin foward to seein this 1 finish up for you. I havent been on riu much recently been real busy buildin my veg cab an work but its nearly done now and work is slowin so i should be good for some riu time lol......your dog reminds me of my old dog we had when i was at home with the parents still, george he was called we got him off a old lady off my street who couldnt look after him any more he was a real smart fella, he was my dads dog really, broke the old mans heart when he died he hasnt had another dog since and befor that we always had dogs at home, he had a good inings tho.
I read you sayin you got the light 2ft away from the tops bro, sounds a little high to me with the leds you would think you could get it closer that would help with the strech, i have my cfls like 4" and my a/c 600w 12" away from the tops i was thinkin the leds wouldnt kick that much heat out but there is a lot of them so maybe thats the case, hows does it feel on the back of your hand if you hold it 12" away if it doesnt burn your hand then it wont the plants bro, i think you'd benifit well from it

Flip The Script said:

Honestly bro it will not hurt you to get the BM (LOL) at all its been tried and tested its not that it doesn't work well its just that fine line. Its always up to you I suggest you get the bushmaster now and dr nodes your next run and see which one you prefer

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Hey FTS I picked up some Bushmaster on the way home. Since you've used it before, how did you use it. Been trying to do some reasearch on how to use it. Some say mix with just warm water. I'm assuming that's ph'd warm water? I've seen some saying to mix with 1/3 strength nutes. Any insight you can give would really help out!
Anyone have suggestions on using Bushmaster please feel free to post!

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What up chronics, hows it goin bro? plants are lookin good man, even the freak is lookin nice now i wonder if shes gunna chuck out some wierd lookin buds like the leafs!? would be cool man, lookin foward to seein this 1 finish up for you. I havent been on riu much recently been real busy buildin my veg cab an work but its nearly done now and work is slowin so i should be good for some riu time lol......your dog reminds me of my old dog we had when i was at home with the parents still, george he was called we got him off a old lady off my street who couldnt look after him any more he was a real smart fella, he was my dads dog really, broke the old mans heart when he died he hasnt had another dog since and befor that we always had dogs at home, he had a good inings tho.
I read you sayin you got the light 2ft away from the tops bro, sounds a little high to me with the leds you would think you could get it closer that would help with the strech, i have my cfls like 4" and my a/c 600w 12" away from the tops i was thinkin the leds wouldnt kick that much heat out but there is a lot of them so maybe thats the case, hows does it feel on the back of your hand if you hold it 12" away if it doesnt burn your hand then it wont the plants bro, i think you'd benifit well from it

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Hey what up PB? Thanks for stopping by and for the kind words. Yeah I'm really loving this strain! Been a fairly easy grow so far. Haven't had to worry about my mix being hot as these girls take it all. The freak is just that a freak. Yeah I have been busy also only been able to keep up my thread not checking out any others too much.
Hope that veg cab works out for you! I plan to use my cabinet as a veg cabinet when the time comes. I now have a 1000w ballast and hood. Plan to use both LED and HPS next summer. I'll keep my setup now for my veg and use the HPS for flower.
Thanks for the kind words bout my boy also. I'm sure I'll be crying like a baby when the time comes for my boy. Brings a tear to my eye whenever I think bout it. He's like my kid and we do a lot together. I try to take him wherever I can. Thanks for stopping by and happy growing!

Anyone use Phosphoload? Wondering if it is like bushmaster or Dr. Nodes?

Yo! you go light on the bushmaster...but if you want me to break it down for you I will...

First of all each strain reacts to nutes differently so your going to have to find out which dosage works for the ultimate. So you want to feed girl #1 5ml per gallon and girl #2 3.7ml per gallon and see which one reacts better if the signs are not immediate don't worry you'll see them soon enough or who knows you might be suprised at the end . but if girl #1 leaves curl upwards then it is recieving too much and cut it down to 3.7 and if it still doesn't do anything you can play with the dosages...

Or if you just want to play it safe and ''see'' if it works then you can just apply 3.75ml per gal

hope this helped

and this warm water stuff is nonsense! lol

Hey thanks FTS! Well I guess I'm gonna have to take it back and hopefully try the Dr. Nodes. Didn't see it on the bottle till I got home but it says not to be used with pure coconut coir systems. Well that's me. Have you used it on coco before? Think you said your hydro. Wonder if I can foliar feed with bushmaster while in coco. Wonder if you can use Dr. Nodes while in coco. Haven't found anything to the contrary. You ever use phosphoload? Spendy stuff! Thanks for all your help bro!

Dr Nodes in coco is also futile but you can check out Nitrozime like i stated above I plan on using it in my scrog. I don't think it ''attacks'' the plants like bushmaster does but it does promote more inter nodes, bushiness and SLOW or decrease vertical growth. Like I said its just a less aggressive organic form of BM

You can foliar feed BM and i've heard it has been immensely successful but they where trading of feeding it for one week then spraying it 3 weeks in a row then feeding again. I'd imagine it wouldn't do any damage to do that in reverse? just foliar spray once every 3-4 feedings

But I dont know how knowledgeable your local grow store is but ask them if not just get the nitrozime and walk out i'll walk you through the rest lol

I havent used phosphorload I heard it does the same thing though I cant speak from personal experience. I'm in soil but dabble in coco too

and no problem man its all about showing love

Flip The Script said:

Dr Nodes in coco is also futile but you can check out Nitrozime like i stated above I plan on using it in my scrog. I don't think it ''attacks'' the plants like bushmaster does but it does promote more inter nodes, bushiness and SLOW or decrease vertical growth. Like I said its just a less aggressive organic form of BM

You can foliar feed BM and i've heard it has been immensely successful but they where trading of feeding it for one week then spraying it 3 weeks in a row then feeding again. I'd imagine it wouldn't do any damage to do that in reverse? just foliar spray once every 3-4 feedings

But I dont know how knowledgeable your local grow store is but ask them if not just get the nitrozime and walk out i'll walk you through the rest lol

I havent used phosphorload I heard it does the same thing though I cant speak from personal experience. I'm in soil but dabble in coco too

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Flip The Script said:

and no problem man its all about showing love

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What up FTS? Hey thanks for showing the love and helping a brotha out! Much appreciated! I'm headed back to the local store and I'm not sure how knowledgeable the dudes there are. Yesterday when I bougt the BM it was the first time going to this store. They seemed to be aight and know their stuff. I hate beating around the bush at these places wish u could just come out and speak openly! I did some reading on the nitrozyme also. I'm gonna see if they sell that and also look at the Dr. Nodes bottle. Dam I really wanted to try either the BM or DN. I need to find a product like BM and DN That works with coco! Hoping the answer is the Nitrozyme! Have u used the Nitrozyme while in flower? Thanks again bro for all your help! Wish I could give ya a sample when it's ready !

wish i would have used something to stop vertical growth...Looking good bro ..

yeah you can mos def start applying nitrozime right now you can use it from seedling to harvest. Foliar and use it in the soil your going to love it! Have you foliar sprayed before? Dr Nodes CAN be foliar sprayed too fyi. Its awesome.

Its hard with coco but you'll find what works for you! while your down there ask them if phosphorload can be used with coco also. determine prices look at labels ASK them about the active ingredients if they do not know ask if they can go on their computer and look it up real quick. Any decent human being would do that for you if they don't know. Not only to help you but to help themselves gain knowledge about the products their selling!

Flip The Script said:

yeah you can mos def start applying nitrozime right now you can use it from seedling to harvest. Foliar and use it in the soil your going to love it! Have you foliar sprayed before? Dr Nodes CAN be foliar sprayed too fyi. Its awesome.

Its hard with coco but you'll find what works for you! while your down there ask them if phosphorload can be used with coco also. determine prices look at labels ASK them about the active ingredients if they do not know ask if they can go on their computer and look it up real quick. Any decent human being would do that for you if they don't know. Not only to help you but to help themselves gain knowledge about the products their selling!

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Hey what up FTS? Well I returned the BM and picked up some nitrozyme and also a bottle of coco-wet wetting agent If I want to foliar feed the nitrozyme. Yeah dude had no idea that the label read not to be used with pure coconut coir system. I did look at the Dr. Nodes bottle. It said nothing about what to use it in. I decided to go with the nitrozyme. It was $4 more and dude forgot to charge me $7 for the coco-wet. I'll take that for my troubles. Lol. So how would u recommend applying the nitrozyme? Maybe you can break it down both ways for me(foliar&hand water)? I'd appreciate it! Actually I've never foliar fed and am on my way to the $ store for a spray bottle. Nope scratch that shit my stoner ass just remembered I bought one of those fancy ass spray bottles with the 360° nozzle so you ain't gotta tip the bottle upside down. But I'm still out the door on my way to Walmart. Dam been a busy day today. Return some shit, take the dog to this cool ass dog park(he did some swimming), back home wash the dog, now on to Walmart, back home to watch the Cowboys at 5 and still gotta check out my girls when they wake up at 5 to maybe apply this nitrozyme while watching some preseason football. Dam can't wait for the regular season, just got the directv hooked up with the NFL Sunday ticket. Whew what a ramble. Lol
Anyway like I was saying I haven't foliar fed before and hope I ant to far into flower to be foliar feeding. I know I don't want to be spraying the buds right? Gotta watch for mold also. Once again thanks for helping out and for your advice on this.

Yo! I do know for coco you use 10ml per gal or ease it in with 7.2 the first feeding. As far as foliar spraying you will find different opinions on this. I on one hand do not think foliar spraying would be harmful during flowering as long as done lightly and before the lights cut off to decrease chance of mold issues. The thing about foliar spraying is that in nature that is how the plants are fed also so it cant be all that bad during flowering right? But other growers swear up and down to no foliar after 3 weeks of flowering because of the risk involved.

For you...I would say not this run just because you do not want your hard work going down the drain to try a gamble at this point. but next time u can play around with it.

Thats dope man I need to take my dog to the dog park soon too but I'm too scared he doesn't get along with other dogs and already has a history. So I have to take him when no-one is there. Peace bro

Yeah your right probably shouldn't try the foliar at this stage. Although I would like to think I'd be careful not to spray them buds. Anyway I will mix it into the coco. So the bottle says "water with solution of 1-2 teaspoons per quart(5-10ml per liter) water per wk." I'm assuming just nitrozyme and my RO water ph'd to 5.8? I always ph to 5.8. Or do you mix nitrozyme with a mild nutrient solution? I'm thinking just the Nitrozyme. Thanks!
Oh yeah we have some cool ass dog parks near us. The one today is cool with a few swimming holes for the dogs. I was worried the first time taking him to a park but he pays the other dogs no attention and just likes to run.

you can always use it with your regular feedings just be sure to dilute it first in its own cup of water then add to the res/feeder. Use 7.2 ml per gallon this week then bump it up to 10 next feeding

but if you please you can feed it with just R/O this week that would be a nice little flush and get those roots active