cannabineer
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Pigs are usual things. I would not be surprised if software filters removed their placid grunts and squeals. ‘course now I am out on a thin limb of speculation.
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The US interests in the Nord Stream sabotages
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rkymtnman
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cannabineer
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like adolescent turtle, they like пицца
Roger A. Shrubber
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they could have moved them into place any time, days or weeks before hand, they wouldn't stop the sporadic operation of the pipleline, which was carrying natural gas, not crude oil. run two out together in a scheduled maintenance run, and only bring one of them back...
cannabineer
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Roger A. Shrubber
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cannabineer
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HGCC
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Lol...seriously??? Wtf. That's just pretty damn weird. Wonder if they are more Qcumbers than bikers these days.
cannabineer
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They have always been a contradiction: supposedly all about rebellion and individual freedom, while being one of the most unforgivingly conformist societies around.
cannabineer
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Just a little global release.
www.space.com
Satellite images reveal the scale of Nord Stream gas pipeline leak
'The Nord Stream release is roughly equivalent to one and a half days of global methane emissions.'
www.space.com
Kassiopeija
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Today in a speech the German Chancellor said, from now on we'd be looking into to get Norwegian & US gas in the future.
hanimmal
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That seems like a good idea seeing as how bad of trading partner Putin and other dictators have been.
Lucky Luke
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Latest part of the oil wars that probably started in Iraq.
The saudis must be getting worried that they might be next.
Lucky Luke
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I think historically russia has been a very depended supplier of energy to Europe. They were still supplying whilst countries placed sanctions on them which allowed them to stockpile a large amount, hopefully a winters worth.
Supply and demand.
Lithium will be the new oil.
hanimmal
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Yeah because nothing says stable trading partner like those nation's dictators assassinating people on your land.
Or MBS destroyed his family to take over Saudi Arabia and install himself as a murderous evil dictator.
Lucky Luke
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With America's help he sure did.
You think that will be America's excuse to invade Saudi Arabia for the oil? You are probably right to, a carbon copy of Hussain. They already have the bases in Saudi.
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Lucky Luke
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"As extraction and pipeline technology opened up Soviet gas fields in the 1960s, and the ongoing postwar reconstruction of Europe stoked demand, East–West gas trade became all but inevitable. Ever since, Russia has wanted to supply gas and Europe has wanted to buy it. The past 50 years have seen energy shocks and gluts; major political crises from Poland to the former Yugoslavia; the fall of the Soviet Union and rise of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s authoritarian state; outright warfare in Ukraine and elsewhere; massive experiments in deregulation; and the rise of environmentalism. Yet relations between Europe and Russia in the natural-gas sector have remained nearly constant."
www.nature.com
"The European Union now imports nearly 40% of its natural gas from Russia. For decades, national-security specialists have recommended that Europeans reduce their dependence on these imports at any cost. Most recently, a fierce debate over Nord Stream 2 — a second Russian pipeline across the Baltic Sea to Germany — has led US congresspeople to threaten sanctions. "- 2020
Power of connection: why the Russia–Europe gas trade is strangely untouched by politics
Thane Gustafson argues that fuel pipelines foster stability. By Andrew Moravcsik
www.nature.com
"The European Union now imports nearly 40% of its natural gas from Russia. For decades, national-security specialists have recommended that Europeans reduce their dependence on these imports at any cost. Most recently, a fierce debate over Nord Stream 2 — a second Russian pipeline across the Baltic Sea to Germany — has led US congresspeople to threaten sanctions. "- 2020
Sativied
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I beg to differ. See quoting just part of a sentence doesn’t work well…
Historically yes. Till they decided to invade their neighbors with a major gas transit function and started a war and throttling gas supply, which forced Europe to replace Russia as a supplier with billions in economic damage. What they were is very cheap, and polluting. NS2 would have made them even cheaper cause it skipped the transit countries including Ukraine, saving billions in transit fees.
A LOT has changed since 2019, when that article you posted was written. Yet you put this in bold: “Yet relations between Europe and Russia in the natural-gas sector have remained nearly constant." which is far from the reality in 2022. Just as that 40%… history.
Your implied non-sequitur conclusion is not even good enough level for a plot in CSI Miami. Threatening with sanctions then and hindsight was the right thing to do. They were also not alone in their opposition, the EU passed a resolution 2 years earlier, by 80% majority, to call for the cancellation of the construction of NS2 for the reasons that by now turned out to be spot on: “it is a political project that poses a threat to European energy security.” Those US congresspeople supported the majority of politicians and people in the EU by putting pressure on Germany, who despite the many warnings chose money (=influence in EU) and a shortcut to meet self-imposed climate change milestones (increasing dependence on gas temporarily rather than switching directly to renewables and greener options).