mindphuk
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That's not what you said in your first comment...
If you weren't referencing Project Stargate, what government funded study were you referring to?
The Venn Diagram of Irrational Nonsense
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Mister Sister
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The individuals. They have been involved in more than one project, produced more than one work. You're right, I should consider my words more carefully. When I read a post, I don't scrutinize every word of every sentence, I look at the overall picture. I write them in the same way. Call me wrong, I'll call you right. High fives all around.
Heisenberg
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I don't believe I have been sarcastic or condescending. My post may have seemed dismissive, but that is a reflection of the evidence. I in fact have put many hours into considering these topics, which is why I run into the stargate example over and over, and each time it's cited by someone who apparently never took the time to research it. I am not sure how a program that spent millions of dollars and several decades to come up with nothing is proof of anything. Remote viewing should be one of the easiest concepts to test, yet has never been demonstrated beyond hoax and mistakes. Scientific tests can only demonstrate a lack of evidence, they cannot disprove anything. Science can not disprove Santa, it can only show lack of evidence and demonstrate a hoax perpetrated by millions. As you say, just because Santa can't be measured does not mean the idea is wrong. In the end, Santa could just be smarter than scientists, he is magic after all. Science has never disproved unicorns, gremlins, mermaids or Bigfoot either.
Another thing that I run into time and again is people who misunderstand the burden of proof. The idea that some things may be beyond measurment in no way supports any specific claim. Maybe the earth is hollow and filled with intelligent humanoids that are beyond detection by science. The 'beyond science' attribute can simply be added to any claim to get around investigative scrutiny. In fact, I can't think of any paranormal or pseudoscientific claim that doesn't use this tactic. Bigfoot is interdimensional so can avoid capture. Aliens have advanced technology that conceals them from our instruments. Ghosts can manipulate equipment to avoid detection. Chi is an energy too subtle to be measured. ESP doesn't work in the presents of non-believers. If something interacts with reality in any way science can study it. If something is beyond the reach of science, then a specific reason must be given so it can be considered, rather than generic special pleading.
Beefbisquit
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Heis, I agree with everything except the bit on the Chiropractor. God damn, they've done some wonderful things for my back.... Everything from a separated shoulder, to a pinched sciatic nerve.... I've literally gone in hobbled over, and walked out damn near 100%.... crazy shit....
Dr Kynes
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it's a legal thing, "Homeopathy" can make claims that other "alternative medicine" practices cannot.
selling echinaccea and willowbark tea to treat the common cold is illegal, but selling a "Homeopathic" cold treatment consisting of echinaccea and willowbark tea is totally different...
"homeopathy" has a special exemption under the FDA's rules and laws. but homeopathy is so full of shit, it makes room for plenty of other shit under the banner.
Dr Kynes
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as soon as your chiropractor starts talking abour "subluxations" he has lost it though.
if you look around you'll be shocked at what comes under the heading of "chiropractic treatment" in the wackier schools thought
[video=youtube;dT7LvlK9yHc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT7LvlK9yHc[/video]
subluxations are the bullshit that turns treatment of injury into a scam, and anyone who thinks a newborn baby needs "adjustment" to stop colic is fucking insane.
polyarcturus
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i like how Scientology is the combo of all it lmao. great find. and true too, cant believe people believe half that shit.
eye exaggerate
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...those folks are fucking insane from the -10 minutes of sleep they've had + a screaming baby that won't stop for 4-6 months. Never mind the consciousness debate, let's talk about science solving that little bit of hell on earth known as colic
Dr Kynes
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it's already got a cure....those folks are fucking insane from the -10 minutes of sleep they've had + a screaming baby that won't stop for 4-6 months. Never mind the consciousness debate, let's talk about science solving that little bit of hell on earth known as colic
a little bit of whiskey in the bottle.
70% of the time it works every time.
and the "doctor" is well rested, and fully cognizant of the fact that nobody has ever seen measured or described a "subluxation" and it's all just garbage to sell needless treatments to fools.
the entire "subluxation" school of chiropracty should be thrown in prison for fraud.
eye exaggerate
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...I remember an older lady telling us that, lol. Might have worked if there had been any booze left in the hou...general vicinity
Heisenberg
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Notice ancient aliens is absent from that list...
Heisenberg
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If the diagram listed people I believe Deepak Chopra would fit nicely in the middle too.