The White privilege to terrorize

Rob Roy said:
I'm not advocating that. I asked if you were. If you aren't is it many had their ancestors brought here against their will, therefore that somehow establishes a right to be here ?
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I dunno, what does RR's tweeker constitution say? Because you were on the verge of clutching your pearls when you incorrectly thought I was saying black people should go back to Africa, but aw jeez now it kinda sounds like you're suggesting that black people should go back to Africa.
 
The liberal / socialist poster child clown, FDR, was not being "a ruler" when he ordered Japanese Americans (looks over shoulder for @Obepawn to correct terminology) into prison camps and stole other Americans gold ?

Hmm, what would you call it then?

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mooray said:
I dunno, what does RR's tweeker constitution say? Because you were on the verge of clutching your pearls when you incorrectly thought I was saying black people should go back to Africa, but aw jeez now it kinda sounds like you're suggesting that black people should go back to Africa.
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Nope. I don't think political borders are the best ways to define boundaries.

So if MY ancestors were brought here against their will, do I get to stay too ?
 
I thought you felt sympathy for slaves? Because you sure leverage them a lot to make your point. And now you want to kick out all the black kids??

Oh boy Royberto, such a mess you is.
 
mooray said:
I dunno, what does RR's tweeker constitution say? Because you were on the verge of clutching your pearls when you incorrectly thought I was saying black people should go back to Africa, but aw jeez now it kinda sounds like you're suggesting that black people should go back to Africa.
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No, I am not suggesting black people be shipped back to Africa. Thanks for answering, you don't think they should.

So, if some of my ancestors were brought here against their will, do I get to stay too ?
 
I'm saying that if you *truly* have a problem with people taking away rights from peaceful individuals minding their own business and you think that, when things are stolen, they should be returned, then you should actually want everyone returned to their home nation, Native Americans aside, because this is their home. You don't want that though, which means that whatever your formula is, it's compromised and involves conflict and hypocrisy. In reality, you pay taxes like everyone else and you just like to cry about stuff and have no actual interest in living the life you claim you desire.
 
mooray said:
I'm saying that if you *truly* have a problem with people taking away rights from peaceful individuals minding their own business and you think that, when things are stolen, they should be returned, then you should actually want everyone returned to their home nation, Native Americans aside, because this is their home. You don't want that though, which means that whatever your formula is, it's compromised and involves conflict and hypocrisy. In reality, you pay taxes like everyone else and you just like to cry about stuff and have no actual interest in living the life you claim you desire.
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You need to read the Wiki entry on his guru Lysander Spooner. He advocated abandoning all technology, including steam, that could not be propagated by one person working alone. "Cooper" would once again be a profession, like "whitesmith". How such a society would defend itself against a motorized neighbor, well giggle.
 
I will say that, as I age, I see that technology isn't much of a reference for the quality of society. We like to look down on many third world countries, but they're not the ones that will starve to death when truckers go on strike, or when there's a gas shortage.
 
mooray said:
I'm saying that if you *truly* have a problem with people taking away rights from peaceful individuals minding their own business and you think that, when things are stolen, they should be returned, then you should actually want everyone returned to their home nation, Native Americans aside, because this is their home. You don't want that though, which means that whatever your formula is, it's compromised and involves conflict and hypocrisy. In reality, you pay taxes like everyone else and you just like to cry about stuff and have no actual interest in living the life you claim you desire.
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He only wants to apply his “formula” when it makes his point.
 
mooray said:
I thought you felt sympathy for slaves? Because you sure leverage them a lot to make your point. And now you want to kick out all the black kids??

Oh boy Royberto, such a mess you is.
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Of course I am sympathetic to slaves, past and present. I don't want to kick anyone out, sorry, never said that.

Stop doing drugs is my suggestion.
 
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mooray said:
then you should actually want everyone returned to their home nation,
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So the average American is a mutt.

Send their legs to France. Their nads to Ireland. Their arms to Spain. Maybe their torso to Germany.

Or if they're "black" , send 65% of them to Africa and the rest spread around Europe to reflect their European ancestry ?

How would you enact your plan? I'm all ears.
 
Rob Roy said:
So the average American is a mutt.

Send their legs to France. Their nads to Ireland. Their arms to Spain. Maybe their torso to Germany.

Or if they're "black" , send 65% of them to Africa and the rest spread around Europe to reflect their European ancestry ?

How would you enact your plan? I'm all ears.
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Sorry, I'm not the one always trying to go back in time, you are. I'm just pointing out your timeline selectiveness. You always bring up slavery, because it allows you to avoid having to discuss whether or not any of us should even be here. You like it when you get to talk about slavery, because it never puts your own status on the table and forces you to reconcile your own agenda with your own comforts.
 
Tangerine_ said:
I dont even have to look at my ignored content to see who you guys are talking about.

Same nonsensical cringey rants.
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Translation = I get scared when content is so unfamiliar I can't understand it. Then I FEEL safe again when I ridicule it. Thinking hurts my head.
 
mooray said:
Sorry, I'm not the one always trying to go back in time, you are. I'm just pointing out your timeline selectiveness. You always bring up slavery, because it allows you to avoid having to discuss whether or not any of us should even be here. You like it when you get to talk about slavery, because it never puts your own status on the table and forces you to reconcile your own agenda with your own comforts.
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I can see your plan to send everyone back to "where they came from" ended up in a junk yard of human parts. Harder to solve than it looks at first glance.

As an aside I do agree with your premise. Conquest is not the way to justly acquire property. Maybe another time we can hit that topic again.

I don't have to go back in time. when I refer to slavery. Sometimes I refer to the human condition of most of the people on the planet in the present. It's a softer slavery, but people are more enslaved now in many ways than they were 200 years ago.
 
For the record, this isn't about me and I don't have a "plan", because I'm not the one with the agenda. This is always about your "otherwise peaceful people..." nonsense and everything I post is *in response* to that. There are things I don't like and I know they won't ever be fixed, so instead of endlessly crying about it, I'm actually going to do something about it(leave).
 
mooray said:
I will say that, as I age, I see that technology isn't much of a reference for the quality of society. We like to look down on many third world countries, but they're not the ones that will starve to death when truckers go on strike, or when there's a gas shortage.
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Technology is tightly correlated with the capacity for national defense. One thing that Spooner's pipedream never addresses is a foreign threat.

Were there no treaty obligations between Africa and foreign powers with some muscle, the USA could conquer the entire African landmass inside a year.

Lower-tech societies get driven out where there are no treaties or hypocritical ones, such as we made with indigenous nations.
 
Rob Roy said:
I can see your plan to send everyone back to "where they came from" ended up in a junk yard of human parts. Harder to solve than it looks at first glance.

As an aside I do agree with your premise. Conquest is not the way to justly acquire property. Maybe another time we can hit that topic again.

I don't have to go back in time. when I refer to slavery. Sometimes I refer to the human condition of most of the people on the planet in the present. It's a softer slavery, but people are more enslaved now in many ways than they were 200 years ago.
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Some of us.
 
CatHedral said:
Technology is tightly correlated with the capacity for national defense. One thing that Spooner's pipedream never addresses is a foreign threat.

Were there no treaty obligations between Africa and foreign powers with some muscle, the USA could conquer the entire African landmass inside a year.

Lower-tech societies get driven out where there are no treaties or hypocritical ones, such as we made with indigenous nations.
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More so in the past, less so today. We have the ability to wreck a shit-ton of countries and steal their resources, but...mostly...choose not to. We'd look like giant assholes and the loss from sanctions would be far greater than the benefits of whatever it is we could steal. There's something to be said having little worth taking.
 
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