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hwy420

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Well, they're nice and dense, and dont look nutrient burned, but usually all of those curled over leaves are telling you they dont like something. How close are your lights to the plants. Kinda looks like heat or humidity stress? so just wondering what your temps and RH are at. Another thing that could make them look like that are the roots drying out or having a lack of oxygen when flooding with nutrients. Do your airate your nutrient solution?
Thank you so much for responding; The leaves are definately telling me that something is wrong. They are in an AeroFlo 36 site 40 Gallon res, w/3" net pots, and I usually keep the air temp at 75 very consistent, and I keep the res temp below 72 at all times consistently ( I have the smallest ecoplus 1/10th water chiller). I keep humidity around 35-40% at all times and have been flowering for 2 months to the day. I have some pictures in my journal right before flowering during veg that are really lush green colored, and it seems that as soon as I flipped to 12/12 they turned all dark green and the leaves started curling/canoeing/knuckling. I keep nutes below 1700 at all times. I add about 200 ML of 17.5% peroxide every 5-6 days to prevent my res from smelling like an aquarium. The only suspicion I have is that I might have a fungicidal root disease which could have developed early when my portable ac unit went out and got to 95 degrees for a few days. They buds are REALLY REALLY dense though. I had to improvise on space, so I only have the light about 12 inches above the plants, I can raise higher if I need to, but I highly doubt this is the reasoning for the leaves knuckling like that because my lights are aircooled with 300CFM's and I have a very strong 16" ecoplus oscilating fan blowing over the whole 4x4 table.

I've got my drain tubes all the way down in my AeroFlo, and there's still about 1" of water at the bottom where the roots are, should I raise the end of the fence posts so less water sits where the roots are?

So I think you've narrowed it down to my roots, and it's the only thing that makes sense, b/c you sound like a very logical and smart person; imma sling you some rep bro I can't thank you enough

EDIT: My tap water comes out at 8.0, but after going through my RO, it is 6.0 on-the-dot every time. These girls require about 5 gallons of water every 3 days, which resets my PH if it ever drifted, but yeah, I didn't change the res for 2 weeks, and my water stayed at 6.0 the whole time. So i'm pretty sure PH is not the problem, I have miracle water ftw.

I was going to say heat stress or over fert.... The leaves are droopy too... How long have the lights been on in this picture?? But definately fat buds... Flush them...
The lights just flipped on, and show the droopy characteristics 24/7. They turned really dark green when i flipped to 12/12. They are very very dense, about 5 times more dense than my Organic white widow. Check out my grow, thanks for responding + rep girl:leaf:
 

Integra21

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Are you running co2? !700 is really high for ppm's without co2. a more normal amount is 800-1200ppm. Excessive nitrogen is the cause for the leaves turning very dark green, and can easily brown up your roots no matter what the temps are at. I really believe your problem is too strong of nutrients with a specifically high nitrogen level.
 

Joe Camel

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What's up WW Club?
Getting ready to chop down 2 small clones I lollipopped.
Been sitting in the dark for 48 hours after a 2 week flush.
I also put my mother along with the other clones I had going.
Man I have been so busy I havent been able to check up on RIU as mush as I would like.
Last I heard Cali was going for legalization. Hellz ya
hopefully it goes through and then the rest of the states could follow in a few years. Well hope is all good for you guys.

Rip have you harvested yet?
I'd like to see some recent pics if you have them.
I'll post mine up here in a minute.
Here is a pic of what that clone looked like going into flower
and like I said I have the chop pic up soon
~~Joe~~

 

greenman7

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Hi there just wanted a bit of help,my lady is 4 1/2 week old 11 1/2 " tall ,just
was wondering if she is in the preflowering stage,as there is little white pistle's at the top in between the node's,would i be able to start them on flower,pic below,was unable to get clear pic of the pistel's,only got 7.2 pixel or it's me,:weed:
 

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businessmen

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At 12" no prob, if you see pistols especially. All depends on how much light etc. how tall you wana let them. Thats a good hight tho
 

Integra21

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Those look great Joe. I had the same thing happen with my mango, never heard of purple mang, but thats what happened for about 50% of my plant, makes me sad I lost the mom to spider mites. The weird part was mine wasn't caused by cold, stayed around 75F the whole time.
 

Joe Camel

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Yeah I thought it was funny. It has dropped in temp tremendously.
I have a sliver haze in the room that all the fans are so purple the almost look black.
 

businessmen

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Damn sticky that looks nice!! How cold did you get it? How long did it flower? When did your fan leaves come off? Ive lost half of mine on accident from salt buildup. Good to see nice buds still without them.
 

Joe Camel

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Damn sticky that looks nice!! How cold did you get it? How long did it flower? When did your fan leaves come off? Ive lost half of mine on accident from salt buildup. Good to see nice buds still without them.
Man it has been Freezing. Night temps hover between 34-45 degrees. Im shocked the didnt die on me.
Flower was 10/11 weeks
Lost my fans ages ago, freaking Magnesium deficiency.
 

greenman7

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whats the best height to satrt my 400w hps on flowering above my w.w ladies they are near 12 " and they will be in 11 litre pots,:leaf:
 

businessmen

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whats the best height to satrt my 400w hps on flowering above my w.w ladies they are near 12 " and they will be in 11 litre pots,:leaf:
It also depends how many plants. I would flower em now. Or a few inches taller.

Man it has been Freezing. Night temps hover between 34-45 degrees. Im shocked the didnt die on me.
Flower was 10/11 weeks
Lost my fans ages ago, freaking Magnesium deficiency.
Its in the 30s in your grow room? No way to heat huh? Thats cool it didnt slow em down. Still chopped in a good time. Means I should have no prob setting out plants here in a bit over a month for a spring flower.
 

greenman7

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It also depends how many plants. I would flower em now. Or a few inches taller.



Its in the 30s in your grow room? No way to heat huh? Thats cool it didnt slow em down. Still chopped in a good time. Means I should have no prob setting out plants here in a bit over a month for a spring flower.
will only be three white ladeies flowering , as its my first time,flower room is 7ft8 high by 3ft 12 wide un 3ft deep
 

greenman7

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whats the think about transplanting,as i read that you should not transplant more than twice,just would like your veiw on this as my white ladies will need transplanting into 6.5l pots so they will have more room i think to get higher,i transplanted once and they did not shock at all ,but don.t know if putting them into 6.5 litre and then again into 11ltr for flowering please help on this matter cheers
 

DaveCoulier

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whats the think about transplanting,as i read that you should not transplant more than twice,just would like your veiw on this as my white ladies will need transplanting into 6.5l pots so they will have more room i think to get higher,i transplanted once and they did not shock at all ,but don.t know if putting them into 6.5 litre and then again into 11ltr for flowering please help on this matter cheers
Ive read that 2x rule, and Ive ignored it ;). First grow, I went from Dixie cups to 1g pots, to 1.5g pots, to 3 gallon pots. Plants never suffered from the extra transplants. Ive cut out the 1.5g pots now though.

Transplant shock/stress is just more crap nutrient companies want you to believe so you'll buy their magic transplant formulas that elminate/reduce transplant shock. Its quite amusing.

As long as you dont rip off half your roots or slam your plant down onto the ground during transplant its nothing to worry about.
 

greenman7

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Ive read that 2x rule, and Ive ignored it ;). First grow, I went from Dixie cups to 1g pots, to 1.5g pots, to 3 gallon pots. Plants never suffered from the extra transplants. Ive cut out the 1.5g pots now though.

Transplant shock/stress is just more crap nutrient companies want you to believe so you'll buy their magic transplant formulas that elminate/reduce transplant shock. Its quite amusing.

As long as you dont rip off half your roots or slam your plant down onto the ground during transplant its nothing to worry about.
Thanks for that d.c has put my mind at rest,so i will put into 6.5 ltr pots before putting them into 11 ltr pots for the flowering,:bigjoint:
 
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