These Fans Are The Real Deal !!

Hotwired

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I have one, and I love it. Much quieter than my vortex, uses less space, and is much more adapt to overcome resistances.
Ahh, I see.

They actually don't push more air than vortex at all, vortex blows them out the water.
Look at the cfm and free air ratings.
Ok, I see what you mean. So they are quiet but don't have the pull that a vortex does if I get what both of you said.

So why not use a Whisperline? So far one guy has compared the 2 fans and said the S&P is quieter. I have the 240 cfm 6" Whisperline and I run it 24/7. Quiet as hell.

I looked at the specs for both the 8" Whisperline and the 8" S&P. They pull about the same amount on the wg chart and lose torque at the same rate. The Whisperline is rated at 2.1 sones but is a whopping 26 pounds!

The 8" S&P is only 8.8 pounds and can fit almost anywhere. I'm wondering how loud it is compared to the Whisperline. If it's anything close in sound value I would probably choose this fan over the Whisperline because of usability.

I may order one of each because I need 2 fans anyway. One for my can 33 and one for my lights. Maybe I'll do a write-up on em after I'm done.
 

specialkayme

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Ahh, I see.



Ok, I see what you mean. So they are quiet but don't have the pull that a vortex does if I get what both of you said.

So why not use a Whisperline? So far one guy has compared the 2 fans and said the S&P is quieter. I have the 240 cfm 6" Whisperline and I run it 24/7. Quiet as hell.

I looked at the specs for both the 8" Whisperline and the 8" S&P. They pull about the same amount on the wg chart and lose torque at the same rate. The Whisperline is rated at 2.1 sones but is a whopping 26 pounds!

The 8" S&P is only 8.8 pounds and can fit almost anywhere. I'm wondering how loud it is compared to the Whisperline. If it's anything close in sound value I would probably choose this fan over the Whisperline because of usability.

I may order one of each because I need 2 fans anyway. One for my can 33 and one for my lights. Maybe I'll do a right-up on em after I'm done.
Do you have a link? I'm interested in what you are talking about. I don't think I've seen these in person.

I've always wondered about the Sunleaves fans. I've heard they are super quiet (in comparison) and still move quite a bit of air. Anyone try these?
 

mane2008

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If straight up CFM is your main concern, you are 100% correct, the Vortex blows S&P out of the water. But my main concern is not CFM, but quality, maintenance, construction materials, and sound.

I have a TD-125 Mixvent fan and a 6" Vortex. While the vortex moves a mass amount of air, it's metal housing unit resonates alot of noise. It's big, it's bulky, it's heavy, and it doesn't have the ability to overcome obstructions in the ventilation the way that the Mixvent fans can. S&P fans, however, are super easy to install, clean, reverse the direction of the air flow (if you want to, I personally don't), and their plastic materials makes them operate at a much quieter level.

I know that the Vortex is rated at 49 dBa (6" one), but I can't find the noise information on the S&P's, anyone have these? I know it's quieter, but how much I'm not sure.
yea my vortex is a lil loud but not compared to equal powered fans.
I think vortex has great construction, they have a 10yr warranty and they are cheap if you know where to go.
 

specialkayme

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yea my vortex is a lil loud but not compared to equal powered fans.
I think vortex has great construction, they have a 10yr warranty and they are cheap if you know where to go.
True, I just can't deal with the noise. Stealth is an issue for me, so a buzzing, loud, vibrating fan is a big no no.
 

Hotwired

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True, I just can't deal with the noise. Stealth is an issue for me, so a buzzing, loud, vibrating fan is a big no no.

The 6" Whisperline pulls 240 cfm at 0 sp and is rated at 1.4 sones for noise level.

http://www.ntsupply.com/files/products/FV-20NLF1_Spec.pdf

It can pull up to 143 cfm @ .6 sp and it dies off from there. I think .6 sp would equate to about 3 turns in 6" ducting. Mine is hooked up above the tent and pulls thru a reflector. I pull at least 200 cfm with it and I can sleep 10 feet away and not hear a thing.

On the other hand my 8" vortex is pulling thru lights and a can 33 with ease but it's very loud. I may switch to 2 S&P's to do the same job if they are a lot quieter.

We need a comparison test between the Whisperline and S&P for noise levels.
 

FlyinLow&High

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I saw this post and I got the TD 150 for my 6 x 6 x 8, and wanted some suggestitons for a charcoal filter setup for odor control with this inline fan. I was thinking of getting the Can 33 with 200cfm Charcoal filter with 6" flange mounting it to the ceiling of my room, its attached to an 6" 90 degree elbow then hook up the my TD 150 inline running 6" duct to my home Exhaust that goes up and out the roof. I was also looking at the Can 55, but weighs 55 lbs.



You guys that have put these TD inline series in place, does this sound correct, and thanks for your time.
 

specialkayme

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Saw these fans on ICMAG a while back, they had a huge discussion board talking about the specs, quietness ect ect. Sec ill find it so people can look around and see what people said.

International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - Quietest 100-150 CFM 4" Exhaust Fan? Elicent Inline or Dayton/ActiveAir Blower?
Just read through that thread, and it had several pieces of conflicting information. According to this website: Untitled it has listed the sound ratings of three of the fans. But the three that it lists (the 160, 250, and 350) arn't available for sale on any website that I have found. And the dimensions don't match up to any of the ones in the S&P extended catalog, so it's not like they are just labeled something different.

But if we were to assume that it is roughly correct, and the noise levels were between 14 and 25 db, that would put it at roughly between 0.2 and 0.4 sones (I think). And according to this website: Shuttle Europe - Know-how: dB and Sone would put it somewhere between a "rustling leaf" and "Quiet bedroom at night".

That, of course, doesn't solve the one issue that the S&P fans have, or really that ANY of the exhaust fans have, including the wisperline: that horrible rushing air sound.

That's what I've been working on overcoming in my new cab. Still can't get it down just right. And I don't have the space for a duct muffler.

Anyway, did we ever decide what type of speed controller works on Mixvent Fans without making that buzzing sound? Does the speedster work, or no?
 

specialkayme

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After a quick search of this thread, I found out that the Speedster does work, but you can only crank it down like 1/4 of the way before the humming starts.

Anyone know of a speed controller that doesn't create this humming?
 

SOG

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can someone help me out
how who'd i go about setting these bad boys in a 9x9x7 with 2x1000HPS
 

genfranco

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can someone help me out
how who'd i go about setting these bad boys in a 9x9x7 with 2x1000HPS
well 9 x 9 ... I would put one at 3 feet from wall ...then the other at 3 feet away from it ...youll have nice buds man...
 

SOG

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had any one used these in a larger setup then a closet, or the larger diameters?

I'm considering using 2 TD-200x to cool my 4 x 1000w 8" sun tubes
and one TD-250 with 10" 5 bulb Big Blue ionizer to exhaust a 10ftx10ftx7ft room
i was going to go with the Vortex in similar diameters before i saw this thread
any comments, recommendations... anyone? :peace:
 

mdgcmd

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My vortex is pretty freaking quite. TBH I cannot even hear the fan because the whooshing air is so loud. I have been wanting one of these for a long time (sense I read up on them). The thing is I already have a 4" Vortex and it pushes 170CFM and like I said I hear the air much louder than the fan, that being said will the air from these be any quite. Possible just a little bit because the 4" model I would is like 35cfm less so moves less air.
 

jnuggs

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I purchased the 4" 100 and was pleased with the air movement and quietness of the unit. So I purchased the 200 but I can't seem to wire it! I don't understand the thing. If anyone has the 200, not the 200x and has successfully wired it, please please help! Thank you!
 
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