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specialkayme

specialkayme

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LoudBlunts said:
most definitely...


what about insulated ducted?

are you using neoprene-lined clamps to help the other things in check with the vibration?

fuck weatherstripping....go get the smallest thing of dynamat...or any sound dampening material. insulate everything.

you can even wrap your damn fan!!!!

overseas they put shit in boxes, i've seen them custom made and sold as i've never seen it around here in the states....
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I'm planning on going to get insulated ducting today, should I not?

And what are neoprene-lined clamps?

Can you elaborate on what dynamat is, and what exactly I should be insulating?

I've heard of people taking the box that the fan came in, cutting holes in it so the fan will work, then packing shipping peanuts in it. I've heard it works fairly well, but I don't have the space for this. I was lucky enough to fit the fan in there, I think anything else I add (the box, peanuts, ect) takes away from the space that I can grow the plants. I don't feel comfortable going much smaller than I do though, so I'm trying to work with what I have.
 
southfloridasean

southfloridasean

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specialkayme said:
I'm planning on going to get insulated ducting today, should I not?

And what are neoprene-lined clamps?

Can you elaborate on what dynamat is, and what exactly I should be insulating?

I've heard of people taking the box that the fan came in, cutting holes in it so the fan will work, then packing shipping peanuts in it. I've heard it works fairly well, but I don't have the space for this. I was lucky enough to fit the fan in there, I think anything else I add (the box, peanuts, ect) takes away from the space that I can grow the plants. I don't feel comfortable going much smaller than I do though, so I'm trying to work with what I have.
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Noise reduction clamps.
Insulated ducting.
Duct muffler.
:mrgreen: :peace:
 

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mattman0217

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PLEASE HELP - driving myself crazy

I plan on using these fans for a updtaed growbox. From what i have heard these are the quietest fans available for how much cfm they push while having a good SP rating...would anyone disagree?

I am currently building a cabinet similar to the SuperCloset. I purchased 2 3x2x6.5 metal cabinets.

Cabinet 1 will be used for flowering and contain a 600 HPS and 6 plant aero system.

The top 1/3 of cabinet 2 will be for my hardware fans/ballast/ducting/co2 etc. The bottom 2/5ths of this box will be used for Veg/mother chamber running 8000+ Lumens 8 tube 2" I already have purchased, plus some other T5's if I need them.

I need some expert advice on the ventalation of the cabinet/veg chambers. I have ready everthing I could and all hear more is everything is better. Here is what I have in mind. Seal the two cbinets completely. Remove a 2x2 piece between the cabinets at the top esientally connecting the top 1/3 of the right cabinet to the left flowering cabinet. I have a 6 inch cool light tube will be passive intake from top back of floweing cabinet and connect to the TD-200X rated at 478 CFM at 0 static pressure and 285 at .75 static pressure. I will then have a second S&P TD-200x for the ventalation pulling through a can-filter 33 which is 12 diameter and 12 long and a fax cfm of 200 which is about 70% of the 200x. Due to its size and my pursuit of height for the sativa, it will be in the top 1/3 of the cabinet on the right that is connected to the Floweing chamber and sealed off from the rest of the right closet. For the ventalation of the veg chamber i will have a TD-100 rated at 100 cfm pulling a can Filter 2600 running staright up and utilizing the same 8 inch exhaust duct ast the fan and flowering ventalation output. Both fans will obviously put on fan controls.

Intake to the floweing chamber will be a 6" passive hooked up to a Cape Damper. The veg will have a 4" passive with a cape damper.

I have a CAP XGC-1 fully automated enviro controler with PPM and fuzzy.

Do you think the td-200 fan are overkill for cooling the 600hps cool tube? 7 feet 6" ducting 1 right angle and 4 ft of the ducting flexible...
Do you think the td-200 fan are over kill for the 40sq ft flower chamber? Pulling through a can filter 33(.75 sp) that has max cfm at 200 and the TD 200 is 70% at .75 sp and 1 right angel
Do you think the passive intakes are sufficient? Which Dampers do you recommend?
Are all fan speed controllers created equal which are best?
Are the panasonic fans better than these?

Will i be able to keep the buzzing down when using speed control? I spoke to S&P today and they said as long as you run the fans above 40% using the variable there will be no buzz. so at 40% of the numbers I metioned above do you feel i would be moving too much CFM for it not to be heard outside the room the closet resides in? Once the fans are placed in the top 1/3 of the right cabinet they will be covered with anything that will dampen the sounds. Unfortnately I will have only 1 inch of space for some of the thinner areas of insulation. Any recommendations on the material to use. I heard those foam beds material works well and have and i have a older tempurpedic 6" pad i can tear into.
Will you be able to hear the cabinet from outside the room it resides in?

Any suggestions on how i mount the fans in the closet? I've already ready their install guide etc.. Can they just be placed on their side on a shelf that has a 3" foam pad on it?

Any suggestions would be greatly appeciated.
 
specialkayme

specialkayme

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mattman0217 said:
Will i be able to keep the buzzing down when using speed control? I spoke to S&P today and they said as long as you run the fans above 40% using the variable there will be no buzz. so at 40% of the numbers I metioned above do you feel i would be moving too much CFM for it not to be heard outside the room the closet resides in? Once the fans are placed in the top 1/3 of the right cabinet they will be covered with anything that will dampen the sounds. Unfortnately they I will have only 1 inch of space for some of the thinner areas of insulation. Any recommendations on the material to use. I heard those foam beds material works well and have and i have a older tempurpedic 6" pad i can tear into.

Any suggestions on how i mount the fans in the closet? can they just be placed on their side on a shelf that has a 3" foam pad on it?

Any suggestions would be gratly appeciated.
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Well, the rest of your post gave me a headache. I really wasn't planning on reading the specs of a grow op. I also am not very good at visualizing something. I have to see it. So I can't help you there. Others on here for sure can.

As for using speed control, I havn't met anyone else on here that has tried using one. As far as I know I'm the only one, and I have failed at it miserably. The fan is MUCH quieter operating without the control than it ever could be with the control. I don't know why, but whenever I hook that control up it just buzzes like a hornets nest. Who knows. Still very quiet without the control on it. Plus, the fan has a High and Low settings on it already, so just go with those. As far as that 40% thing goes, I call bullshit. Anything less than 90% buzzed like crazy.

I ordered some insulated ducting (they don't have 5" at the hardware store), along with some dynamat material. Looks cool. Going to try it, hopefully it will reduce nearly all of the light rattling I have right now. I'll let you guys know how it works out.

And if anyone was interested, I attached 4" regular ducting to it, sealed it up a little, added a bit more weatherstripping for now and it's manageable. You can't hear it once the door is closed (from outside the room at least), but it would be loud enough to wake me up if it started up while I was sleeping in the room. Working on it though.
 
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hondamatt74

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i took a good look at these fans and all related info and for the price you {are} getting more fan for your buck than most closet grows need and that is always good . it get's my vote 5 out of 5 hit's
 
LocoMonkey

LocoMonkey

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I can confirm that these fans are quiet. I have one in my grow right now. :hump:



I purchased a larger one than I needed and attached it to a speed controller. That way I can keep the fan at a lower speed, minimizing the noise while blowing out enough hot air. The vortex fan I had prior was noisier.
 
southfloridasean

southfloridasean

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LocoMonkey said:
I can confirm that these fans are quiet. I have one in my grow right now. :hump:



I purchased a larger one than I needed and attached it to a speed controller. That way I can keep the fan at a lower speed, minimizing the noise while blowing out enough hot air. The vortex fan I had prior was noisier.
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Loco Im telling you wemade the right decisions. :smile:
 
southfloridasean

southfloridasean

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specialkayme said:
Yup, got the TD-125 plus the Fantech 0-100% Variable Speed Controler WC - 15. It was the cheapest one. I didn't think it mattered.

Located here:

Fantech Speed Controls and Switches - Fantech SCD5 SCD7 WC15 RPE10 RPE10 RPE210 FD30M FD60EM FLD60 FH20 FAT10 FPS10 VT20A VT20M - HVACQuick.com
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This controller is even cheaper & the best part of all theres no wiring involved. Just plug the fan into the back of the fan control cord.

THE SPEEDSTER™ - VARIABLE FAN SPEED CONTROL - Environmental Controllers, CO2, Fans / Blowers / Ducting, Air Purification, Odor - Fans, Blowers & Ducting - THE SPEEDSTER™ - VARIABLE FAN SPEED CONTROL [736617] - HorticultureSource.com
 
specialkayme

specialkayme

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Not cheaper. Mine was 18.50. But not like it did me any good. The thing was a waste, as it made it more loud, not less.
 
PurfectStorm

PurfectStorm

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Well, my TD-100x came in yesterday, and I have yet to hook it up.

What gauge and type of wire, and how did you guys to hook it up to a plug?
 
upinchronic1

upinchronic1

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southfloridasean said:
Before you do anything check out horticulturesource.com they have a sale on them right now. Even cheaper than the other sites I posted. :peace: Good luck.
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Yeah man, Yeah! hey you know your all right. Just picked up a fan and one of those speed controllers, your like the ole knowlegable one on these deals man. Cheaper than ebay with the speedsters! Im hoping to have my order in a week or two, ill give a report, The even accept M/O, tiiight, thanks:peace:
 
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