Things to Know About Lighting

1stymer said:

you need a good light? go to any large construction site and steal a 400w mh wobble light. they are all over large site.

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While this may be true I recommend not stealing them. I just searched for 1 & it's $219 for a 400W lite. Go buy one. I work construction & i have had my stuff stolen before. When you steal from a construction site you aren't stealing from wal-mart. You are stealing from someone that's prolly just trying to make a living. struggling by day to day like me. Someone that might be your best friend if you actually got to know them. It's bad Karma & it's wrong. plain & simple. We are not animals. & Crap like that just feeds into ppls stereotypes that marijuana = drugs = crime = scumbags. We're not animals. I know most ppl i know that smoke are ethical ppl & have strong morals. But in every crowd there are bad seeds. & also i know young ppl are a bit more easily influenced & perhaps more likely to do something crazy & go for instant gratification. But please understand stealing is wrong. It's not cool & it's not ok. So please if you wanna grow then by all means grow. but find a way to do it that is within your means to do & don't do anything you believe to be unethical. Don't sell yourself out just 'cause it may seem easy.

Nice work you all have a lot of time on your hands..

1stymer said:

you need a good light? go to any large construction site and steal a 400w mh wobble light. they are all over large site.

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Fuck man... if you need a light that bad... come steal mine...

I'll introduce to Bessie... a good ol'fashioned 12 gage kinda light.... they don't last long... but they sure carry a bang...!!!!

Ps. if you still want to steal lights, Pm me for the address...

GYPSY...

Lol, @ Gypsy. That gets my vote, along with similar posts.

Don`t steal and attract more than your fair share of do-gooders to grass you up!!

First rule of growing is best adhered to..... Dont let anyone know you grow!

grat postings with good info on cfls

first timer grower here... umm can sum1 email me back and forth i got sum questions my email is raidermaximus@yahoo.com --- well basically id like to start off with i need info on a light i can use 24/7 on 2 plants wud a 80-100 watt low pressure sodium 1 work? email me?

stealing is not good and will have a negitive effect on those plants if u use a stolen light...


ne way i use a cfl from seedling to veg, a 1000 watt mh fer veg, and a 1000watt hps for flowering seems to be the best that ive found for growing the best buds, u could leave that PURple on with the mh to help out, im sure the plants wouldent mind the extra light and spect.

BCENVY said:

Find your local major electrical company (like one's that do large comercial jobs) find their suppliers (their suppliers usually sell to the public, just not at our discounted rate)

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You can find this item legally for under $200 on amazon, under "home improvement" I found it by doing a google search for "metal halide wobble light"
and if you are really interested they come in a 100w and 175w version. HTH
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But honestly if you are going to be honest and pay for it, your money is far better spent on the proper ballast and reflective hood. Those lights are designed to light hallways, not the most efficient route of MH lighting if you are growing plants.

But hey, I guess it works great if you want to take that other guys suggestion and steal it...ya know I mean free crap always works best I guess, I dunno I just hope you don't steal your supplies from hard working american men, who put in 8 hours of hard work to build America 5 days a week!!

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take it to the PMs

what about led , mixed spectrum lights? its said that a 50 watt led 12x12 gives 80000 lumes and best spectrums, htg has them, and give off very little heat ive heard that there not very good,but no reasons why. im trying 2 start my first winter indoor grow where heat and power consumption is a problem. i would love 2 hear details thanks

I have a high output floresent fixture that holds 8 four feet bulbs. Each one puts out 5000 lumenas a total of 40,000 lumens! Each bulb only uses 54watts of electricity so basically your getting all the light with out the electric bill being to high like I am all the time. I highley recomend highoutputs for indoors because of there low heat output. Just throw your light, plants and co2 in a sealed closet with a timer and boom you got chronic

so whats a good red spectrum light for flowering for under a hundred bucks? anyone got any recomendations? im gonna have my girl buy it. thanks guys

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mixed spectrum lights? its said that a 50 watt led 12x12 gives 80000 lumes and best spectrums, htg has them, and give off very little heat ive heard that there not very good,but no reasons why. im trying 2 start my first winter indoor grow where heat and power consumption is a problem.

I think the lumen output specs of led grow lights are exaggerated, or based on the distance of an inch from the lights. does anyone have some math to show the amount of light an led panel has compared to a cfl or tube florescent? talking about small indoor grows with heat concerns. I came up with a number of 2.532 lumens per led when I first looked into it, but I'm not sure how accurate that is. if you can fit 15 led's in a square inch and have a 12x12 panel, you have 2160 led's with 5469 lumens. sound about right? about the same as 4 100 watt cfl's.

The thread title is "things to know about lighting". Well, heres something to know...
Mercury in Compact Fluorescent Bulbs More Hazardous than Previously Thought
Please dont kill the mesenger I use them too.

itsgrowinglikeaweed said:

The thread title is "things to know about lighting". Well, heres something to know...
Mercury in Compact Fluorescent Bulbs More Hazardous than Previously Thought
Please dont kill the mesenger I use them too.

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well, yeah... doesn't it seem kinda obvious now that you think of it?

lorenzo08 said:

well, yeah... doesn't it seem kinda obvious now that you think of it?

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Well if its so obvious, how come no one knows about it????????????????
And if its so obvious that the governments and corporations of the world are putting out so many poisonous and toxic products, then why are we all purchasing these products???

itsgrowinglikeaweed said:

Well if its so obvious, how come no one knows about it????????????????
And if its so obvious that the governments and corporations of the world are putting out so many poisonous and toxic products, then why are we all purchasing these products???

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here is my theory, I really think it's true and applies in so many different ways.. "people are naturally stupid". as far as I know mercury is banned from public schools, yet they still use tube florescents. what is stopping people from disposing of the cfl's in the proper way? laziness maybe? the single and only reason the environment is on peoples minds so much lately is because they want to save money. there were environmentally friendly solutions available a decade ago, but people wouldn't pay extra for it, but that has changed now. same thing with cars. people want to save money on gas, so the hybrids hit the market.

don't get me wrong. not everyone is like that, stupid and lazy. us pot heads aren't stupid, only lazy.

BCENVY said:

Yup yup...I'm a general contractor...they are in fact all over large construction sites.

HOWEVER I HIGHLY DISCOURAGE STEALING FROM CONSTRUCTION SITES...IT'S DARK, THERE'S NO ONE AROUND...THEIVES THAT ARE CAUGHT ARE GENERALLY DEALT WITH SEVERLY WHEN CAUGHT IN DARK PLACES WITH NO WITNESSES.

BESIDES IT'S JUST FAWKING WRONG TO STEAL AND ALMOST AS WRONG TO CONDONE OR SUGGEST IT. BAD FORM MY FRIEND, BAD FORM!!!!!!

and on a more personal note...thanks, it's people like you that cost me hundreds of thousands of dollars a year replacing crap I find stolen, you know we can't work when you steal our stuff?!!?!?! Oh and those lights, that's called EGRESS LIGHTING, it's sole purpose is so we don't trip and kill ourselves at 5am when the fawking sun isn't even up yet. And when it's not in place OSHA comes and shuts down our job site because we are then in violation of federally mandated construction safety laws!!! Makes me sick when I have to be woken up by my Foreman because someone stole from our job site!!!!

YOU WANNA GROW POT FINE...DON'T STEAL FROM HARDWORKING PEOPLE TO DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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It doesn't cost you money, surely it's an insurance job. Ain't steling from the hardworking people, you're really stealing from their bosses who actually paid for the stuff. Also those lights arn't on all night so therefor when you get there at 5am in the morning it's going to be dark regardless of if someone stole one of these lights or not. I dont suggest stealing but i think you should settle down and stop waving around all these false facts and figures.

BCENVY said:

Yup yup...I'm a general contractor...they are in fact all over large construction sites.

HOWEVER I HIGHLY DISCOURAGE STEALING FROM CONSTRUCTION SITES...IT'S DARK, THERE'S NO ONE AROUND...THEIVES THAT ARE CAUGHT ARE GENERALLY DEALT WITH SEVERLY WHEN CAUGHT IN DARK PLACES WITH NO WITNESSES.

BESIDES IT'S JUST FAWKING WRONG TO STEAL AND ALMOST AS WRONG TO CONDONE OR SUGGEST IT. BAD FORM MY FRIEND, BAD FORM!!!!!!

and on a more personal note...thanks, it's people like you that cost me hundreds of thousands of dollars a year replacing crap I find stolen, you know we can't work when you steal our stuff?!!?!?! Oh and those lights, that's called EGRESS LIGHTING, it's sole purpose is so we don't trip and kill ourselves at 5am when the fawking sun isn't even up yet. And when it's not in place OSHA comes and shuts down our job site because we are then in violation of federally mandated construction safety laws!!! Makes me sick when I have to be woken up by my Foreman because someone stole from our job site!!!!

YOU WANNA GROW POT FINE...DON'T STEAL FROM HARDWORKING PEOPLE TO DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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It doesn't cost you money, surely it's an insurance job. Ain't steling from the hardworking people, you're really stealing from their bosses who actually paid for the stuff. Also those lights arn't on all night so therefor when you get there at 5am in the morning it's going to be dark regardless of if someone stole one of these lights or not. I dont suggest stealing but i think you should settle down and stop waving around all these false facts and figures.