Things to Know About Lighting

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born2killspam

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Why not read the thread.. Its been explained.. Lumens are for humans.. In regards to photosynthesis, lumens are a useless measure unless you're just using them as a scaling factor for 2 lights with matching spectrums..
 
purpdaddy

purpdaddy

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i have read this thread many times!it has been explained again because people still askin questions that dont know. Lumens a useless measure?LMFAO!
 
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SunKissedBuds

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So ur telling me i can flower with flourescent bulbs? Wont that result in a weak harvest? Stringy like buds? Someone tell me something good! I'd rather stick with HPS for flowering although i'm having trouble finding a fixture at a local hardware store...
 
purpdaddy

purpdaddy

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SunKissedBuds said:
So ur telling me i can flower with flourescent bulbs? Wont that result in a weak harvest? Stringy like buds? Someone tell me something good! I'd rather stick with HPS for flowering although i'm having trouble finding a fixture at a local hardware store...
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yes you can but i wouldnt recommend it.yes thin spindly buds!The HPS lamp is ideal for flowering.i will use nothing else.:bigjoint:
 
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born2killspam

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If you could get enough fluoro light on them without heat problems, which is pretty much impossible unless you spend ALOT of money very stupidly, then you could grow as well as with HID.. Since that isn't going to happen yea, using fluoros will leave your plants wanting more light during flowering..
Point being, fluorescent spectrum isn't useless/poison light to them, the means of output is just weak..
 
purpdaddy

purpdaddy

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yea youll need a fuckload of em..especially during flower.You will come out better just getting an HID setup rather then trying to accumulate enough flouros to be equivalent to the HID.Then youll for sure see a difference on the light bill!
 
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born2killspam

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That I agree with totally.. Its ironic how much more money you'll spend collecting sufficient fluoros.. To get decent results at all you pretty much need atleast a few 42W cfls/plant, and they aren't cheap..
I got most of my HID from electrical/lighting outfitters in the industrial area of town.. Bare bones 400W HPS ballast/bulb/socket were $55 a few years back.. Just walked in, payed cash, walked out with light..
Another gem I found there was cheap high-bay reflectors.. My god can you get a nice even/compact light casting for base-up bulbs in those when they're close to the table..
 
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purpdaddy

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born2killspam said:
That I agree with totally.. Its ironic how much more money you'll spend collecting sufficient fluoros.. To get decent results at all you pretty much need atleast a few 42W cfls/plant, and they aren't cheap..
I got most of my HID from electrical/lighting outfitters in the industrial area of town.. Bare bones 400W HPS ballast/bulb/socket were $55 a few years back.. Just walked in, payed cash, walked out with light..
Another gem I found there was cheap high-bay reflectors.. My god can you get a nice even/compact light casting for base-up bulbs in those when they're close to the table..
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400W HPS ballast/bulb/socket were $55 !! Fuckin steal! Thats right up my alley! Thats what im gonna do today,im goin check with sum of those industrial lighting suppliers today.Why didnt i think of that! THanks man!
 
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born2killspam

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They aren't always that cheap.. I remember calling places, and the guy mentioned this special they had on.. It was Westburne Electric IIRC.. Regardless, I can't imagine paying more than 20-50% what they want at the hydro-store for the same unit in a nice white chassis, with fancy grommetted cords..:)
Just make sure there is a tap for your voltage.. Everything I've ever bought has been triple tap, but some might need 240V or even 377V (IIRC) only.. Not many contractors will be hooking these up to 120V, so its reasonable to assume that some might be made less costly by eliminating the extra taps..
 
purpdaddy

purpdaddy

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born2killspam said:
They aren't always that cheap.. I remember calling places, and the guy mentioned this special they had on.. It was Westburne Electric IIRC.. Regardless, I can't imagine paying more than 20-50% what they want at the hydro-store for the same unit in a nice white chassis, with fancy grommetted cords..:)
Just make sure there is a tap for your voltage.. Everything I've ever bought has been triple tap, but some might need 240V or even 377V (IIRC) only.. Not many contractors will be hooking these up to 120V, so its reasonable to assume that some might be made less costly by eliminating the extra taps..
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Very true,very very true!didnt think of that either!
 
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born2killspam

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If its not already out there it wouldn't be tough to build a suppliment for your timer that keeps it off for x amount if time in the event it loses power.. Wouldn't be nearly as complex as the timer schematic I've posted since only a short term, unprecise duration is required.. 120V or 240V? How many lights, and what types and wattages?
Also why are you having this problem?? Why are your lights going out?
 
southern homegrower

southern homegrower

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they are not going out yet. but i live in florida / lots of bad weather. just want to prevent it before i have problems. i think it will save me from having to buy as many bulbs
 
southern homegrower

southern homegrower

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hydro shop man said the bulbs will not start up if they are hot.not sure if i should beleave a man that sells bulbs for a living. i think i read somthingto stp hot starts somewere on rollitup but cant find it now
 
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