Things to Know About Lighting

JJMoney420

Member
lol aight will do, ive seen some pretty impressive plants with limited cfls i want 2 try a high wattage setup and see what comes out of em
 
i was thinking of growing i have all the stuff . my lights are spiral cfl's 2 32 wats its a very small grow space
but its only one female plant ea bulb is 3000 lumens is that enough
 
im sure 3 32 watts should be fine for flowering this is nothing big .just a one plant experiment
and i have a small batery powered fan whitch is definetly good enough.
when i actualy start growing im gonna post pics and ask people about their opinion and if my plant looks good
 

kindbudz

Member
is it ok to start your plants in 24 hours light with MH 400w light? or is it better to start the mat 20 hours? anyone please help?
 

jrk152

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From what I've gathered going through these forums there's not much difference. Longer daytime = more photosynthesis, but some also say that a few hours of darkness helps with root growth. Also keeps electricity costs down if that can become an issue, and also cools the grow area during the 'night' period. Can be useful if your afternoon temperatures become too hot, you can use that period as your 'night' dark period.

I've currently got 3 seedlings under a 250w MH and some CFLs on a 24/0 cycle. I'm currently germing 4 more seeds so once those sprout and become seedlings I will get the whole bunch under a 20/4 schedule. Its light overkill I know but temperatures are being kept in check so I see no harm. Hope this helps.
 

Dahmer8afew

Active Member
Same great info here man! Thanks much!! Quick question for all you veteran smokers out there. Have any of you smoked any strains that caused you to seriously think you were getting Down's Syndrome? LOL
 

FiendNZ

Member
Yup yup...I'm a general contractor...they are in fact all over large construction sites.

HOWEVER I HIGHLY DISCOURAGE STEALING FROM CONSTRUCTION SITES...IT'S DARK, THERE'S NO ONE AROUND...THEIVES THAT ARE CAUGHT ARE GENERALLY DEALT WITH SEVERLY WHEN CAUGHT IN DARK PLACES WITH NO WITNESSES.

BESIDES IT'S JUST FAWKING WRONG TO STEAL AND ALMOST AS WRONG TO CONDONE OR SUGGEST IT. BAD FORM MY FRIEND, BAD FORM!!!!!!

and on a more personal note...thanks, it's people like you that cost me hundreds of thousands of dollars a year replacing crap I find stolen, you know we can't work when you steal our stuff?!!?!?! Oh and those lights, that's called EGRESS LIGHTING, it's sole purpose is so we don't trip and kill ourselves at 5am when the fawking sun isn't even up yet. And when it's not in place OSHA comes and shuts down our job site because we are then in violation of federally mandated construction safety laws!!! Makes me sick when I have to be woken up by my Foreman because someone stole from our job site!!!!

YOU WANNA GROW POT FINE...DON'T STEAL FROM HARDWORKING PEOPLE TO DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
agreed! i work on construction sites all the time, sure i ogle the lights and ponder the wonder they can grow but i dont steal them its WRONG, if i catch some punk stealing stuff like this which keeps myself and my work mates safe at work, and ABLE to do our job for a living, my nail gun will meet you, and you wont like it. so BACK THE *%&! off. Use your head:fire:
 

stuntin

Member
ite homies. not gonna lie, didn't really read through the 50+ pages of postings. im pretty green when it comes to growing green. so my question is menards has a 44 inch grow light that has over 4000 kelvins. but all this light to kelvin to energy per foot in may if your moms <120 lbs garb reminds me too much of homework. if i bought a little cheapie just to grow a few plants even using a reflector on the light holding dealie and i bought 2 bulbs would that be enough lighting? i don't have hundreads of washingtons to dump into this at the moment. so again. i'm well aware this is prob not recommended amongst growing all stars. but will it work for a broke joker like myself?
 

born2killspam

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ite homies. not gonna lie, didn't really read through the 50+ pages of postings. im pretty green when it comes to growing green. so my question is menards has a 44 inch grow light that has over 4000 kelvins. but all this light to kelvin to energy per foot in may if your moms <120 lbs garb reminds me too much of homework. if i bought a little cheapie just to grow a few plants even using a reflector on the light holding dealie and i bought 2 bulbs would that be enough lighting? i don't have hundreads of washingtons to dump into this at the moment. so again. i'm well aware this is prob not recommended amongst growing all stars. but will it work for a broke joker like myself?

Had to be done..
 

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mowgly

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Color rating- Measured in Kelvin (K). The higher the number, the more bluish the light. 4000K-7000K is mostly on the blue side of the spectrum, while 3000K and under goes from a white spectrum, to a redder spectrum.

How much light is needed?
The minimum amount of light required by marijuana plants is around 3000 lumens per square foot. However, it's not 100% accurate, since although you may have a 10,000 lumen light, the amount of light that reaches the plant varies with the distance between the light and plants, and reflectivity of the grow box. The ideal amount is somewhere around 7000-10,000 lumens/sqft, and as long as the plants do not burn, as much light can be used as you want.
(*note, the sun produces about 10,000 lumens/sqft, on a sunny summer day).

Determining lumens for your grow area:
Determine the square footage of your area (example in a 4 foot by 4 foot area, there is 16 square feet)
If you have a 1000 watt High Pressure Sodium, that produces (approx.) 107,000 lumens.
Divide this by 16 (your square footage) 107,000 / 16 = 6687 lumens per square foot.
So just divide the total amount of Lumens, by the total amount of Sq ft, and thats your lumens per square foot.

How far away from my plants do the lights go?
The lights in your grow room should be as close as possible to the plants without burning them. There is no such thing as too much, unless there is sufficient heat to dry out and burn the leaves. A good rule is to put your hand under the light, if its too hot for your hand, chances are that the plants will be too, so move the light up until your hand feels more comfortable. For seedlings and clones, I keep them a little further away from the light, because they are very susceptible to burning and drying out, at these stages.

Efficiency is very important when choosing a type of light. The wattage is not the most important thing, as you can see below, different types of light produce different amounts of lumens per watt. A 300 watt incandescent will produce about 5100 lumens. While a 300 watt Metal Halide (just an example, they do not come in 300 watts), will produce 27,000 lumens. Obviously far more efficient for growing, while still using the same amount of electricity.

Approximate light production:
Incandescents: 17 lumens/watt
Mercury vapor: 45-50 lumens/watt
Fluorescents: 60-70 lumens/watt
Metal halide: 90 lumens/watt
High pressure sodium: 107 lumens/watt

Incandescent lights: Incandescents are the most popular type of lights in the world. They may come advertised as incandescent, tungsten, quartz, halogen, or simply standard. The important thing about incandescents is this: they suck.
There are some incandescents which are sold as 'grow lights.' They usually have a blue coating and usually come in 60W and 120W sizes. While they may seem like a good choice to new growers, they are next to useless; they produce some light at a usable spectrum, but only have about a 5% efficiency and generate more heat than usable light. Most of us have these in our homes right now. Don't use them for growing, instead opt for a Compact Fluorescent as a cheaper but more efficient alternative.

Fluorescent lights: Fluorescents are a lot more useful than incandescents. Their efficient enough, and cheaper than HID lights. Compact fluorescent tubes are popular with growers because of their good output to size ratio. Compared to standard 4' tubes, compact fluorescent bulbs are smaller, and more can fit into a given area. Fluorescents are good for small grows on a tight budget, and for novice growers, since they do not require any special sort of wiring or understanding of the necessary bulbs for a given fixture, and are very widely available.
Fluorescent lights come in many different Kelvin ratings; often the spectrums are labeled on packaging as being 'cool white' or 'warm white.' Cool white is more blue, and is good for the vegetative stages of growth, and warm white light is more orange or reddish, and is best for the flowering stage.

High Intensity Discharge (HID) Lighting Systems:

Mercury Vapor (MV)
Mercury vapor lights are not the most efficient light for growing. They are very bright, and relatively cheap. They do emit light at the wavelengths necessary to support your plants growth, but not nearly as good as a MH or Hps light. Much of the light emitted by MV lights is bluish-white. Street lighting is what most MV lighting is used for.

Metal Halide (MH)
Metal halide lighting systems are optimal for use in the vegetative phase of growing. They emit mostly blue light, which encourages vigorous growth of foliage. They are very efficient, but can get rather expensive to start with; fluorescents may seem more appealing because of their lower price, and they are not much different when compared on a lumen-to-lumen cost level. These lights can be used through-out the grow, but will most likely result in light, fluffy buds.

High Pressure Sodium (HPS)
High pressure sodium lights emit mostly orange, yellow, and red spectrum light, which is perfect for the flowering stage of the plants growth. They are (in my opinion) the most efficient type of light available for any application. HPS lights can be used through-out the entire grow. They produce more dense and usually larger buds than any other light.
HPS lights are generally a little more expensive than MH systems of similar wattage. They are more commonly used by experienced growers because of their ability to produce tighter buds, higher lumen-output-per-watt, and will produce from start to finish.

I'll also add this graph below, i hope this post helps some of you out.

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simple facts interesting
thanks
 
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