This happened immediately after watering

I watered 30 mins before the pic was taken. I didn't water the last plant because I feared that something is wrong. Three of the four plants I watered look droopy...

Happy frog soil (33% perlite), tap water ph'ed at 6.5, temps kept between 70F-77F for the last 48 hours.
375W CFL's. I HAVE NOT FED THEM ANYTHING.

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BEFORE:
Last Thursday.
(I had the light too close, but I moved them back)
(I also had the temps too high, but i lowered the temps 8 degrees)


They were finally normal again just before I watered today.......



AFTER:

mean.green said:

I watered 30 mins before the pic was taken. I didn't water the last plant because I feared that something is wrong. Three of the four plants I watered look droopy...

Happy frog soil (33% perlite), tap water ph'ed at 6.5, temps kept between 70F-77F for the last 48 hours.
375W CFL's. I HAVE NOT FED THEM ANYTHING.

If you need additional info, just ask


BEFORE:
Last Thursday.
(I had the light too close, but I moved them back)
(I also had the temps too high, but i lowered the temps 8 degrees)


They were finally normal again just before I watered today.......
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AFTER:
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How dry was the soil when you watered? Do you do the poke and check depth method or lift the pot and judge weight method?

Drooping sometimes happens after watering.Specially if they were nice and dry at watering.

ok I was hoping that was what is happening. Thank you Resinhound once again, for calming me down!!!

dgthumb said:

How dry was the soil when you watered? Do you do the poke and check depth method or lift the pot and judge weight method?

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I waited 5 days until I watered this time. The soil was wet in the middle yesterday, so I waited until today to water.
If there is a problem, it's probably not overwatering.

Edit: 6:40pm
I poke my finger an inch to half inch deep
I pick up containers
I feel around container to hear the sound it makes and feel how dry it is

Bing and reading resinhounds comment the light bulb went off, the soil was probably warm, water cooler. Plants got a chill. Nothing to worry about unless they keep drooping. Ok so that's a complete utter theory from out of the dark.

Youll see them perk back up as the soil starts to dry,if after a night cycle they dont perk up..then we need to call Houston and tell them theres a problem.

Resinhound said:

Youll see them perk back up as the soil starts to dry,if after a night cycle they dont perk up..then we need to call Houston and tell them theres a problem.

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I can't say I've seen plants droop right after watering, mine usually perk up in a few hours after watering.
I've had really droopy leafs in the morning when the lights came on because I left the fan on and it got a little colder in my tent then it should have. A couple hours of warmth perked em up. That's what made me think the droop might be from cool water into warm soil.
I'm curious to see how this one turns out.

dgthumb said:

Bing and reading resinhounds comment the light bulb went off, the soil was probably warm, water cooler. Plants got a chill. Nothing to worry about unless they keep drooping. Ok so that's a complete utter theory from out of the dark.

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I think you are both right!

I watered with cold tap water, instead of room temp, to see if it would make a difference.
I think it must have shocked them a little bit to receive the colder water.

I need to invest in a big 4-5 gallon bucket to hold water, so that way I can keep the water at room temp.


Thank you dgthumb and resinhound for calming me down.

They started drooping so fast I got scared.


I will update when/ if they recover.

mean.green said:

I think you are both right!

I watered with cold tap water, instead of room temp, to see if it would make a difference.
I think it must have shocked them a little bit to receive the colder water.

I need to invest in a big 4-5 gallon bucket to hold water, so that way I can keep the water at room temp.


Thank you dgthumb and resinhound for calming me down.

They started drooping so fast I got scared.


I will update when/ if they recover.

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I water from my faucet. Never really check the temps though. On my next watering I'll pull out my thermometer and see what it says.

Save your old gallon milk jugs and fill and let sit overnight.

Yep ambient temp water is best.

Resinhound said:

Drooping sometimes happens after watering.Specially if they were nice and dry at watering.

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Right on, Seems alright though

What size containers?

Sounds like your medium is retaining to much water cause o2 dep to the roots.

If they drop right after watering it is because the roots go from an o2 rich environment to o2 dep.

Now that I run hydro, I actually learned that "overwatering" droop is lack of o2 to the roots.

That is "overwatering" droop. And you also have a bit of a claw going on. Tip of the leaves. Cut back on N.

Overwatering is normally a chronic problem... rarely an acute problem.See what they look like after a night cycle op. The leaf tips too.I think the plants were bone dry,since he says he waited 5 days to water..then dumped cold water on em.Ya they are gonna droop.

hondagrower420 said:

What size containers?

Sounds like your medium is retaining to much water cause o2 dep to the roots.

If they drop right after watering it is because the roots go from an o2 rich environment to o2 dep.

Now that I run hydro, I actually learned that "overwatering" droop is lack of o2 to the roots.

That is "overwatering" droop. And you also have a bit of a claw going on. Tip of the leaves. Cut back on N.

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They are in 3 gallon containers. What you are saying makes sense. Edit: "also I haven't fed them any nutrients so I cannot cut back on the N.
From what I was told the clawing that you saw from the pic from a week ago was due to the light being too close to the plant. I move the light 4 more inches away (so that the light bulb was 6 inches from plant) and the plant was back to normal in about a week."




Quick question for you all

Is it better to give you plants: warm, cold, room temp (tap water)

A) If I am using warmer water it would have all the minerals sitting in the water tank. (i'm not sure if thats ok or not)
B) If I am using cold, then it shocks my plants.
C) If I am wanting room temp from the tap, then I need a mix of hot and cold on. (easiest method)
D) OR use hot water (or cold) and let it sit until it reaches room temp.

which one is best?
The problem with D is that you would need a large bucket of water to sit for a while. If you run out of water while your watering, then you'll have to wait for it to reach room temp again.

C) I hope plants can handle warm and cold water mixed to room temperature; because I don't have a big bucket and this is the easiest, fastest, and cheapest method for me. But I don't know if plants can handle to warm water because of all the excess minerals.

Just let it sit out the night before you water dude,stop making it so complicated.If you cant do that then just adjust the temp fron the tap until it "room temp"...no biggie.

If you are using tap. Don't use the hot water. Heavy metals build up in water heaters. Always use the cold side of the faucet.

As far as water temp goes. I would try to shoot for 65-75f. So room temp.

Ok so you use 3gal containers. how Mich water do you feed at a time to each? And how much runoff?

hondagrower420 said:

If you are using tap. Don't use the hot water. Heavy metals build up in water heaters. Always use the cold side of the faucet.

As far as water temp goes. I would try to shoot for 65-75f. So room temp.

Ok so you use 3gal containers. how Much water do you feed at a time to each? And how much runoff?

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Thank you, hondagrower420 for a polite and informative response. That was exactly the info I needed to make a decision myself. I did not know that the warm water would cause the minerals/metals to build and result in hurting the plant. Now I know to use cold tap water and wait until it reaches about 65-75 degrees F. I will go buy a big bucket.

alright, The lights are on and they look better. Thanks for helping me figure out what I was doing wrong before I started a bad habit or created damage.