This is what happens when politics go one sided

Sir Napsalot said:
Is it not reasonable to detest the detestable?
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Yes, completely. But not to the point if ignoring factual information, no matter how irregular it is.. due to contempt. Fact before feelings.

Tommy might well be a vile racist cunt. Even if he is, that does not change the facts that he brought to light. If he is such a man then yes, you would not invite him round for lunch, but as an official figure or police officer.. you would look into and do something about the crimes he was reporting to you. They were warned about the growing radicalization yet ignored it due to the feared racial political mine field. Yeah peoples feelings were saved short term, many lives were lost and will continue to be lost long term.. on top of the countless children who would not have gotten drugs pushed onto them prio to being raped. That does not mean white men don't do the same crimes above.. but the point is that even in worse case (tommy is a cunt) the racial political minefield allowed those crimes to go on... where they most likely (you'd hope) would not have if it were not a minority group.
 
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Fogdog said:
Trump is gone from office about 100 days a year, either playing golf, obsessing over twitter or junkets to Mar a Lago. What wannabe scheming would be tyrant takes that much time off?

Just saying he does some good things.
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Trump is just an example, a recent top of the list one that we can all relate too.
 
Olive Drab Green said:
Speaking of bias and one-sidedness.

By the way, there is no alt-left. And everything Trump does is, in fact, bad. He can’t even keep his lies straight, let alone his facts.

You’re an imbecile, you’re biased, and a proven brainwashed hypocrite. I can’t even take you seriously.
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Alt-left is a thing, in time it will either have that official name or something else. Neo nazi was not always recognized as a thing. Don't think the alt-left is any better.. they are not.

Most of what trump does and says is a joke, I can agree as far as that.

What exactly am I bias too?. I do not support trump, I do not singularly support any branch of the right or left. In-fact I see certain points within all sides that are valid, washed with so many points from all sides that are not. So bias toward factual based opinion?. The far left is currently getting away with or facilitating absurd levels of hatred and that makes them no better than the far right. You don't get to that fact based opinion of calling both sides out by being bias to the left or right. If you can't see that then ignorance is bliss.
 
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PCXV said:
Or maybe it is justifiable to ridicule ideas based in lies and prejudice? "Liberal" is a four letter word on Fox News, you want to talk about demonization and manufactured, feigned outrage? Look at dozens and dozens of lies and manufactured controversy about Obama that Breitbart, Fox, Limbaugh, Republicans etc. propogated. Trump deserves pretty much every ounce of criticism he has recieved. Republicans deserve more criticism than they recieve. The 1st amendment protects you from government censorship, but it doesn't shield you from criticism. I think the true problem is that many right-wing ideas don't stand up to scrutiny, and without a defense based in rationale, right-wingers cop out with victimhood arguments.
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Playing the victim happens on both sides and it's pathetic, I agree honestly. But surely the idea is to see the problems of the past (many issues far right and corp has shown) and avoid it in the future?. The far left and a lot of these ''love and peace'' movements are not doing that, they are dividing people further, ridiculing anybody that goes against their every demand, not matter how silly. Too much of the left is driven by ''feelings'' and ''guilt tripping'' not fact.

It is as if we have created a married couple political west. The right is the partner who cheated, the left is the one who got cheated on and is using that guilt to have every demand met, not matter how stupid. Problem is politics should never be 2 sided so all in the middle have no choice but to pick a side or a side will pick for them. Clearly what is going on in this very topic....

I know, it's hard to resist using that last statement as an ironic point score.
 
zeddd said:
First sentence is a mess, the first paragraph makes no real sense, who are “they”?
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Again this is showing to be out of your depth. Or do you lack the spine to hold opinions that conflict with increasingly absurd pc correctness and false facts?. ''I don't like Chinese food'' ''FUCKING WHITE PIECE OF SHIT RACIST''. Thankfully it's not that bad yet.
 
Flowki said:
Alt-left is a thing, in time it will either have that official name or something else. Neo nazi was not always recognized as a thing. Don't think the alt-left is any better.. they are not.

Most of what trump does and says is a joke, I can agree as far as that.

What exactly am I bias too?. I do not support trump, I do not singularly support any branch of the right or left. In-fact I see certain points within all sides that are valid, washed with so many points from all sides that are not. So bias toward factual based opinion?. The far left is currently getting away with or facilitating absurd levels of hatred and that makes them no better than the far right. You don't get to that fact based opinion of calling both sides out by being bias to the left or right. If you can't see that then ignorance is bliss.
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nope.

Trump IS a joke.

Alt left is a term made up by the reactionary right wing..

Learn how to write.

Also naive.
 
UncleBuck said:
you started this thread with a youtube of an EDL bigot who you had to admit attracts nazis to his cause, then cited ben "i worked for a neo-nazi rag" shapiro.

but you are totally not a neo-nazi right wing alt-right shitbag
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You will find a crack in anything in order to condemn the entire building to serve your ignorant views. If you can't find one, you'll make one.

Many kids are dead in that shooting you've posted about and already you are using it to serve your hate fueled ego. Keep on hiding behind the tactic of throwing shit at others.. to hide the fact you are just as dirty.
 
Fogdog said:
nope.

Trump IS a joke.

Alt left is a term made up by the reactionary right wing..

Learn how to write.

Also naive.
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Trump is mostly a joke.

Alt-left has many meanings. I specified mine, it's legit check it.

Learn to create bullet points?.

In what way?. You've not committed to giving your own opinion other than popular safe arguments like ''trump is a joke''. You clearly lack a spine, shared nothing of interest yet think you are right. Hmm, naive.
 
Flowki said:
Trump is mostly a joke.

Alt-left has many meanings. I specified mine, it's legit check it.

Learn to create bullet points?.

In what way?. You've not committed to giving your own opinion other than popular safe arguments like ''trump is a joke''. You clearly lack a spine, shared nothing of interest yet think you are right. Hmm, naive.
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Alt-left has many meanings? Yes it does, it's a strawman argument invented by the reactionary right. There are groups who call themselves Alt-right and so it's possible to point to these neo-Nazi racist white supremacists and use their own words to describe their ideology. There is no group that identifies itself as Alt-left. I also checked your earlier posts that used this term and, no, you don't specify what you mean by it. That doesn't really make it a term anyway.

Why do you continue to defend Trump?

Regarding your naivete, it is naive to equate actions of the reactionary right with anything the left has done or tried to do. It's a false equivalence argument. For example, liberals aren't trying to deny healthcare to 20 million people and threatening long-term health of senior citizens by cutting medicaid. Nor did liberals recently give the 1% a permanent and huge tax cut paid for by borrowing from China. The two groups cannot be more different.
 
Flowki said:
You will find a crack in anything in order to condemn the entire building to serve your ignorant views. If you can't find one, you'll make one.

Many kids are dead in that shooting you've posted about and already you are using it to serve your hate fueled ego. Keep on hiding behind the tactic of throwing shit at others.. to hide the fact you are just as dirty.
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Cracks?

You had to admit yourself that your cause attracts nazis.

Sorry white terrorists are so gun how about shooting up schools and concerts and churches and movie theaters, racist princess.
 
Fogdog said:
Alt-left has many meanings? Yes it does, it's a strawman argument invented by the reactionary right. There are groups who call themselves Alt-right and so it's possible to point to these neo-Nazi racist white supremacists and use their own words to describe their ideology. There is no group that identifies itself as Alt-left. I also checked your earlier posts that used this term and, no, you don't specify what you mean by it. That doesn't really make it a term anyway.

Why do you continue to defend Trump?

Regarding your naivete, it is naive to equate actions of the reactionary right with anything the left has done or tried to do. It's a false equivalence argument. For example, liberals aren't trying to deny healthcare to 20 million people and threatening long-term health of senior citizens by cutting medicaid. Nor did liberals recently give the 1% a permanent and huge tax cut paid for by borrowing from China. The two groups cannot be more different.
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You obviously didn't check the posts well enough as it's there, but that makes sense. Just because a term is not validated by who ever you suppose is able to, does not mean it isn't so. It's like saying nobody has botanist level knowledge unless they have the phd to prove it. Black lives matter was a thing before it was officially named. As I said in another post, it may not end up being called alt-left.. but it is something and will be called something.

Defend trump?.. look back at my posts and see your blatant lack of reading comprehension or bias context. If you stop being so raged and assumptions due to the bandwagon mentality against me (or is it just trump hate?) you'd see it's not that at all. I can, have and will say that factually, he' done a lot of stupid shit, while factually he has done some good shit. The point is to not let feelings get in the way and shunt anything trump does be it good or bad as simply bad. It was an example to the absurd feeling over fact hate just like those who say ''all cops are racist violent assholes'' when clearly they are not, clearly. That is not how you conduct yourself as a balanced individual.. and it's shocking to see ''professionals'' have a hand in pushing such blinded bs.

It's subjective to your level of bias/hatred but it isn't hard to look into some good things he's done. It's entirely up to you to allow that process. But seriously.. you got to at-lest get off this high horse of your side is good and the other side is bad. They have both done fucked up shit. That is not ''trying to justify one sides actions due to the others''.. that is simply an unbiased factual statement.

You are actually exhibiting alt-left mentality by how you are responding to me. I don't support trump, am not right yet you brand me and direct hate as if I were, simply because what I say does not coincide with your views. Anything that is not your views is right. Big problem that.
 
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Flowki said:
You obviously didn't check the posts well enough as it's there, but that makes sense. Just because a term is not validated by who ever you suppose is able to, does not mean it isn't so. It's like saying nobody has botanist level knowledge unless they have the phd to prove it. Black lives matter was a thing before it was officially named. As I said in another post, it may not end up being called alt-left.. but it is something and will be called something.

Defend trump?.. look back at my posts and see your blatant lack of reading comprehension or bias context. If you stop being so raged and assumptions due to the bandwagon mentality against me (or is it just trump hate?) you'd see it's not that at all. I can, have and will say that factually, he' done a lot of stupid shit, while factually he has done some good shit. The point is to not let feelings get in the way and shunt anything trump does be it good or bad as simply bad. It was an example to the absurd feeling over fact hate just like those who say ''all cops are racist violent assholes'' when clearly they are not, clearly. That is not how you conduct yourself as a balanced individual.. and it's shocking to see ''professionals'' have a hand in pushing such blinded bs.

It's subjective to your level of bias/hatred but it isn't hard to look into some good things he's done. It's entirely up to you to allow that process. But seriously.. you got to at-lest get off this high horse of your side is good and the other side is bad. They have both done fucked up shit. That is not ''trying to justify one sides actions due to the others''.. that is simply an unbiased factual statement.

You are actually exhibiting alt-left mentality by how you are responding to me. I don't support trump, am not right yet you brand me and direct hate as if I were, simply because what I say does not coincide with your views. Anything that is not your views is right. Big problem that.
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There is no alt left. That is a construct of the racist right. I said it doesn't matter how you frame it, it is made up.
 
UncleBuck said:
Cracks?

You had to admit yourself that your cause attracts nazis.

Sorry white terrorists are so gun how about shooting up schools and concerts and churches and movie theaters, racist princess.
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The feminist movement didn't attract women who literally hate men?. The left didn't attract people who hate anything right?... you're a walking example of that extremism. Get out of the closet and admit you are a hateful individual who needs to justify that hate with false righteousness. To normal left the righteousness is valid, not to you, you're an alt-left anarchist who doens't have the balls to show the monster you really are. People like you are the proverbial terrorists who hide around innocent civilians.
 
Fogdog said:
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There is no alt left. That is a construct of the racist right. I said it doesn't matter how you frame it, it is made up.
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Very understanding and willing to have an adult conversation of varied opinion with no fear of ridicule. You do your side justice.

Keep going mate, show it for what it is.
 
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