This is what is causing all the uproar?

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beenthere

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Carne Seca said:
After all the GOP has done and where they put us today you have the unmitigated gall to claim Democrats don't compromise. Which party has become known as the party of Obstructionism over the last four years? Let me give you a hint. The word starts with REPUBLICAN.
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Both parties are hypocrites when it comes to compromising, history is a testament to that fact.
I will though disagree with you on the smoking ban in privately owned business.
Government has no business dictating who can smoke and who cannot in a private establishment, that is a decision that should be left to business owner and his patrons. Now I would agree that a sign be posted outside designating that this is a smoking friendly establishment as to forewarn the public.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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beenthere said:
IMO, Obama just found out no matter how nice you are to theses radical idiots, they'll hate America till the day they die.
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yeah, i agree. the GOP does everything they can to keep americans out of work and the leader of the GOP smirks uncontrollably when americans die.

those radical idiots on the right really do hate america.
 
ink the world

ink the world

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Yeah he's been being real nice to radical Islam
and terrorists.

Pakistan: As of June 2012 there have been at least 262 drone attacks
Lybia: drone attacks
Syria: drone attacks
Afghanistan: shit, we invaded and still occupy
Yemen: drone attacks

UBL dead, every new Al Queda #2 guy is toast within months.

Yeah he's soft on terror, as soft as you are with facts, logic and tolerance
 
Carne Seca

Carne Seca

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beenthere said:
Both parties are hypocrites when it comes to compromising, history is a testament to that fact.
I will though disagree with you on the smoking ban in privately owned business.
Government has no business dictating who can smoke and who cannot in a private establishment, that is a decision that should be left to business owner and his patrons. Now I would agree that a sign be posted outside designating that this is a smoking friendly establishment as to forewarn the public.
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The government has every right to protect its citizens from harm. Cigarettes are harmful. Doesn't matter whether you agree with me or not. Scientific studies, medical records and health statistics have proven that cigarettes are deadly. I'm surprised we even got the ban considering how powerful the tobacco industry has been.
 
ink the world

ink the world

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Science bad!!! Ughh ughhh

God made tobacco, if you don't love tobacco you're a socialist and probably a secret Muslim too !!
 
mr2shim

mr2shim

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Carne Seca said:
The government has every right to protect its citizens from harm. Cigarettes are harmful. Doesn't matter whether you agree with me or not. Scientific studies, medical records and health statistics have proven that cigarettes are deadly. I'm surprised we even got the ban considering how powerful the tobacco industry has been.
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Unfortunately, they are here to stay. Making them illegal would just line the pockets of people willing to illegally sell them, i.e. cartels, mobs, thugs. Unless you flat out put cigarette companies out of business.(won't happen, lobby lobby lobby) I'm not too sure people are going to be growing tobacco seeing as how it won't grow basically everywhere like wacky weed.

Making things, historically doesn't really put a stop to the problem. It creates a whole new problem, sometimes worse than the problem that is illegal. Solution? Kill everyone. LOL, no..
 
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ink the world

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beenthere said:
Both parties are hypocrites when it comes to compromising, history is a testament to that fact.
I will though disagree with you on the smoking ban in privately owned business.
Government has no business dictating who can smoke and who cannot in a private establishment, that is a decision that should be left to business owner and his patrons. Now I would agree that a sign be posted outside designating that this is a smoking friendly establishment as to forewarn the public.
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What about the employees?

Should a pregnant waitress have to inhale secondhand smoke for her 8 hour shift? What about the asthmatic bartender?
What about their rights to breathe clean air?
 
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beenthere

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Carne Seca said:
The government has every right to protect its citizens from harm. Cigarettes are harmful. Doesn't matter whether you agree with me or not. Scientific studies, medical records and health statistics have proven that cigarettes are deadly. I'm surprised we even got the ban considering how powerful the tobacco industry has been.
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Who the hell are you trying to protect, is everyone else stupid?

Dude, driving a car and riding a motorcycle is deadly WTF let's all bend over let government outlaw them too!
This is fucking insane, people like you were thrown in a pot of water while it was still warm and refuse to believe it will ever boil!
 
rollinbud

rollinbud

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beenthere said:
Obama said muslims were a tolerant people!
He claimed if he kissed their ass they would be our buds, hell, Obama was supposed to make the whole world like us. What the fuck happened?
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That was just campaign rhetoric, too bad he never quit campaigning long enough to do his job...
 
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althor

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As long as what I am doing doesnt hurt anyone else, its no one's business (especially the government).
I love how people want to dictate what others can do until it becomes their turn and its something they want to do, then oh hell no...
 
ink the world

ink the world

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Holy shit a post you actually wrote. Impressive

Was is it just rhetoric when W said the SAME thing? Were your panties all bound up then too?
 
Samwell Seed Well

Samwell Seed Well

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althor said:
As long as what I am doing doesnt hurt anyone else, its no one's business (especially the government).
I love how people want to dictate what others can do until it becomes their turn and its something they want to do, then oh hell no...
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bolded text is a great way to be . .. . just happens to be most people are not aware of what they do and how it affects others, or excuse them away as another freedom, to some to be considerate of other civil liberties at the cost of what they want is trivial
 
Grandpapy

Grandpapy

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beenthere said:
Both parties are hypocrites when it comes to compromising, history is a testament to that fact.
I will though disagree with you on the smoking ban in privately owned business.
Government has no business dictating who can smoke and who cannot in a private establishment, that is a decision that should be left to business owner and his patrons. Now I would agree that a sign be posted outside designating that this is a smoking friendly establishment as to forewarn the public.
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And it is still that way, at least here in CA. I know a restaurant that up until he sold it 10 months ago, you could smoke while chowin down on your T bone. He was The Owner, head chef, and chief bottle washer. He had no employes, and a sign on the door indicating the dangers inside.
 
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beenthere

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ink the world said:
What about the employees?

Should a pregnant waitress have to inhale secondhand smoke for her 8 hour shift? What about the asthmatic bartender?
What about their rights to breathe clean air?
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If they don't enter the smoking friendly establishment, they don't have to worry, now do they?
What about employees! If they understand the risk or smoke themselves, what's the problem?
If they don't want to work in that environment, they have the choice of working somewhere else.

And the asthmatic bartender should move to AZ and get a job in a salad bar!
 
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beenthere

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Grandpapy said:
And it is still that way, at least here in CA. I know a restaurant that up until he sold it 10 months ago, you could smoke while chowin down on your T bone. He was The Owner, head chef, and chief bottle washer. He had no employes, and a sign on the door indicating the dangers inside.
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That's the way it should be, I sure as fuck wouldn't eat there though! lol
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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beenthere said:
If they don't enter the smoking friendly establishment, they don't have to worry, now do they?
What about employees! If they understand the risk or smoke themselves, what's the problem?
If they don't want to work in that environment, they have the choice of working somewhere else.

And the asthmatic bartender should move to AZ and get a job in a salad bar!
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what if an establishment comes under new ownership and the new owner wants to get rid of the smoke free environment?

does the pregnant waitress have no rights in that case?
 
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