This thread is all about flavor!!!!

[TonightYou]

I will say, I tend to stay away from any cross that has a herni prone aspect to it (these are usually from his new testers, with things like GSC et cetra). His males are awesome

 

[Supersweetnuggs]

Smoke report in a couple words..Tangerine power by SCS taken at 8 weeks..Sweet I would say tangerinish citrus taste, definitly not lemon or orange but definitely a tangy citrus, smooth smoke, nice high that put me to sleep more then one time. Definitely nighttime smoke in my book.



I'm not gonna open that can of worms on this thread, but I strongly suggest to all growers to experiment and try flushing and not flushing some plants, and then properly curing them and see what they think. I flushed for the first year or 2 I grew, then I did some experiments and learned it was pointless for me to flush. The key to a smooth burn and good flavor is the drying and curing.

I have always flushed my crop before harvesting, drying, and curing.
I'll give it a try on this next harvest.
Thanks.

 

[Thundercat]

I have always flushed my crop before harvesting, drying, and curing.
I'll give it a try on this next harvest.
Thanks.

Do everything else the same for the plants when you chop, dry and cure them. If you have your drying and curing process down I doubt you'll notice any difference IMHO.

 

[Supersweetnuggs]

Smooth crakle free smoke so far
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[OGEvilgenius]

A few weeks ago I was smoking a bong with a good friend of mine. The bud tasted good all the way till it was ash!!!! There was a sweet taste to the smoke. I asked around to find out what strain this amazing long lasting taste came from, but unfortunately no one knew what strain it was.

Now I would like to gather information about the best tasting strains.

What strain do you think taste best?

My guess is you smoked some high Brix fruity weed that was cured properly... but just my guess. You can do this with a lot of strains.

 

[Supersweetnuggs]

My guess is you smoked some high Brix fruity weed that was cured properly... but just my guess. You can do this with a lot of strains.

Your probably right about that
I'm aware that curing bud properly is important, and has a major effect on the taste.
The bud was definitely cured well, of this I'm sure.
I've smoked lots of delicious properly cured bud, (& had my fair share of not so good bud also)
I never smoked a bole like this before though.
I mean the ash tasted like it was the second hit off the bole. no burnt taste at all.
The high was really strong.
Thanks for posting

 

[greasemonkeymann]

It seems that with the extreme frost, high potancy, and killer flavor the buds don't always get big. That was the main reason I ran it a few times, and then let it pass. I have enough other things going, and so many more to try that I try to keep a balance in the garden of some seriously dank tasty stuff along with some stuff I know will yield alittle better. I love variety what can I say. I need to try some of the bodhi gear, I've read great stuff about it for years now.

So true, Bodhi seeds are next, now that I've popped a couple sannie/eskobar strains

 

[OGEvilgenius]

Your probably right about that
I'm aware that curing bud properly is important, and has a major effect on the taste.
The bud was definitely cured well, of this I'm sure.
I've smoked lots of delicious properly cured bud, (& had my fair share of not so good bud also)
I never smoked a bole like this before though.
I mean the ash tasted like it was the second hit off the bole. no burnt taste at all.
The high was really strong.
Thanks for posting

Most folks weed isn't high brix. High brix is really only possible in hydro with huge dedication and/or luck. Only organic guys hit the high brix levels and even a lot of those guy don't really because their mix is lacking or they are using bottled nutrients that are lacking in micronutrients and such.

 

[Supersweetnuggs]

An average brix level for a solid organic grow is going to be around 7 to 10 brix. Moderate brix levels are in the 10-12. area. Once you get over 12 brix you're in High Brix levels.
Brix levels can get up in the 20s.
I've never met anyone who could get more.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

An average brix level for a solid organic grow is going to be around 7 to 10 brix. Moderate brix levels are in the 10-12. area. Once you get over 12 brix you're in High Brix levels.
Brix levels can get up in the 20s.
I've never met anyone who could get more.

Yup. If you're in the 20s your plants will never get sick as well.

 

[Slimjimham]

How do you test the brix, and does brix really effect taste that much?

 

[Thundercat]

You can buy little testers for testing brix, I think they are only like $100.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

I got a few random nanners on a couple strains. Nothing on most plants, but a few on the sinmints, powernap, and tangerine powers. I plucked them off and the plants finished fine. They only did it on the seedling plants, not on the clone generation though. The rest of the strains were great as far as I remember. I got a few different phenos in the larger batchs of plants I test ran, but that included some really nice phenos that I'm still running a year later.

Worth noting a lot of plants will do this. Herm from seed, not from clone. A lot of times the nanners are sterile too. Chimera wrote a little about his experience with this - he usually recommends trying a 2nd run to be sure if the plant is worthy otherwise.

I think it's good advice.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

How do you test the brix, and does brix really effect taste that much?

Refractometer. I bought a professional model for around 150. You can get ones for quite a bit cheaper though. And yes, it does effect taste that much. Potency too. Resistance to mold and other pests is greatly increased as well.

It means nutrient/sugar content of the plant by measuring how light refracts through the plants sap. The higher these numbers the healthier your plant is.

Grape farmers have been doing this for a very long time.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

A lot of people do not know to flush there plants. If your ever smoking bud and it is harsh and crackling, that's probably because the grower didn't flush the crop.

Actually that's because they overfed it. Flushing can only do so much to fix that, and if you're growing shit dialed in flushing only hurts your yields, flavors and potency.

My shit burns clean even before it's fully cured and I do not flush.

 

[Supersweetnuggs]

Check E-bay. You can find ones for less. make sure you get a tester for the right brix

Actually that's because they overfed it. Flushing can only do so much to fix that, and if you're growing shit dialed in flushing only hurts your yields, flavors and potency.

My shit burns clean even before it's fully cured and I do not flush.

I never had any crackle with my bud.
The smoke for the most part has always been smooth.
I don't intend to flush my crop this time.
Thanks for the heads up.
I have smoked bud that has the crackle.

 

[AllenHaze]

I agree..... to an extent. Using synthetics, the grower is in charge. You have to decide what nutrient to add, how much of it to add, and when to add it. This is mostly a guessing game until you have grown out a strain several times and have become accustomed to it's needs/wants. With organics, the plant is in charge, and works in unison with the soil microbiology to satisfy it's needs. The plant secretes exudes from it's roots, attracting different microbes to the root zone which bring with them various nutrients/minerals that the plant requires at that particular phase of it's life cycle.

So, while what you are saying about plants not differentiating between synthetic and organic nutrients is true, it is my belief that an organically grown plant will almost always come closer to it's genetic potential than that of a synthetically grown plant.

Agreed. There are many phenotypes that lie dormant unless "activated" in response to maturity, environment, pests ,etc. The creeper pheno in Cannabis for example, will not express itself until the plant has reaches a certain "height". Perhaps, the same is true with organics vs synthetics. I mean there can be a significant difference between plants grown outside versus those grown inside and this certainly comes down to - in part - a difference in phenotypic expression.

 

[qwizoking]

Creeper pheno?

 

[OGEvilgenius]

OFC it's true with organics vs synthetics. Organics give the plants what it wants (assuming it's there - and in a good mix, it should be!), chemicals can give the plant what it wants - but that assumes the grower knows what the plant wants. And knowing what it wants takes a lot of work and/or trial and error.

Creeper pheno?

There is a type of growth pattern with cannabis plants that is described as being "creeper". They grow quite a bit differently than typical cannabis plants, less tree like - more out of control vine like. It's described in the Marijuana Botany book written in the 70's... I forget the full title/author ATM.

 

[qwizoking]

I've seen mj on some islands off mexico that grew like vines and propagated along the ground. Dude said the whole field was the same strain his family had always grown. That's why I love them landraces though, such an amazing plant.. anyway smoking and rambling