"Those Who Oppose Gay Rights Are Vilified"

olylifter420

olylifter420

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Yes sir, this place is much better without being attacked for expressing my own personal beliefs and stating what i believe in.

It is a "free country" at least for now!!
 
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GaiaGuy

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I chuckle inside whenever I hear the phrase, "gay rights." I've looked into it, and it turns out "the gays" aren't asking for any more rights than straight people already have -- and just as often take completely for granted, and neglect, and outright abuse.

Consider: a couple of drunken strangers can get married in a Vegas drive-through and dissolve it 48 hours later (huh, so can celebrities, I guess); a death-row inmate who has lost every right a person has, including the right to live, can still get married over the phone without ever being able to touch their spouse; BUT... a loving couple who have been together for 40 years (link) are treated as legal strangers because they both have hoo-hoos.
 
sso

sso

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the name of this thread is ..bit funny.

anyone who takes away people´s rights is a villain? yes?

abuser of freedom. so of course ya are vilified.
 
KlosetKing

KlosetKing

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olylifter420 said:
Yes sir, this place is much better without being attacked for expressing my own personal beliefs and stating what i believe in.

It is a "free country" at least for now!!
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I am so ready to agree with this statement, until the church says what they have, or people like Slojo show up and start posting borderline hatespeech.

I fully respect any and all peoples right to free speech. But free speech should never be confused with free hatred.

Westboro Baptist Church is a perfect example. What they do is not 'free-speech', its 'hate speech' and should be considered criminal in my opinion.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Words, criminal?

That's absurd.

Words that incite violence are an exception "Jews are bad, go kill Jews", etc. but simple words that don't incite violence should never be censored.

Just my .02
 
KlosetKing

KlosetKing

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Your right and i should clarify.

Had the church i mentioned, to be specific, used a public forum, or townhall, or even just a demonstration at a chosen capitol etc, is fine no matter the speech i would agree.

Getting your entire gang to barge in on the outside of a military funeral with signs about how 'god hates fags' and screaming incredibly offensive slurs at those people, is not free speech. Criminal may have been a bit strong of a word, but goddamn that shit shouldnt be allowed. It should have specific places for things like that. They take it beyond opinion, and they make it personal. Its no longer belief or free speech at that point, its hate speech.
 
karri0n

karri0n

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KlosetKing said:
Your right and i should clarify.

Had the church i mentioned, to be specific, used a public forum, or townhall, or even just a demonstration at a chosen capitol etc, is fine no matter the speech i would agree.

Getting your entire gang to barge in on the outside of a military funeral with signs about how 'god hates fags' and screaming incredibly offensive slurs at those people, is not free speech. Criminal may have been a bit strong of a word, but goddamn that shit shouldnt be allowed. It should have specific places for things like that. They take it beyond opinion, and they make it personal. Its no longer belief or free speech at that point, its hate speech.
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What you're saying isn't wrong, but it's a very slippery slope once you open that up. In the UK you can be arrested for cussing or "being rude" according to your accuser's definition of "rude". The things you're talking about are what opened up the doors to that shit.
 
KlosetKing

KlosetKing

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karri0n said:
what you're saying isn't wrong, but it's a very slippery slope once you ope hat up. In the UK you can be rrested for cussing or "being rude" according to your accuser's definition of "rude". Things like you'r talking about are what opened up the doors to that shit.
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I totally agree. Its really a sad situation. I want to fight for free speech, but then people go and abuse their rights in such a way that i start to question my own values.

"I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure."
— Mark Twain

If it were anyone in the WBC's obit, id feel the exact same way.
 
Zaehet Strife

Zaehet Strife

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gay people act funny, they kinda talk weird...um, they move their hands too much when they talk. ummmmmm and they like to laugh loud. but ive also met gay people who don't act gay, who act normal but are gay. you would never have been able to guess. im not sure why some gay people feel the need to act out as if their perceptions on being gay are the stereotypical perceptions of societies view on gays. but either way...

i have no problem with gay people, they are just like any other human in the world, and should have the same rights as any human. i just like to point out that i think its really funny to watch the stereotypical gay, lololol!!!!
 
karri0n

karri0n

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Zaehet Strife said:
gay people act funny, they kinda talk weird...um, they move their hands too much when they talk. ummmmmm and they like to laugh loud. but ive also met gay people who don't act gay, who act normal but are gay. you would never have been able to guess. im not sure why some gay people feel the need to act out as if their perceptions on being gay are the stereotypical perceptions of societies view on gays. but either way...

i have no problem with gay people, they are just like any other human in the world, and should have the same rights as any human. i just like to point out that i think its really funny to watch the stereotypical gay, lololol!!!!
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I know a couple gay guys who can't stand that type of behavior, and I also know those who act that way only in front of other gays, presumably because they feel that's how they are "supposed" to act. The majority, however, seem to act in between the two, neither acting like the steritypical "macho" guy, but also not acting flamboyantly effeminate, either.

I personally find the extremely effeminate guys extremely annoying, the main reason being it seems completely fake.
 
txhazard

txhazard

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Zaehet Strife said:
gay people act funny, they kinda talk weird...um, they move their hands too much when they talk. ummmmmm and they like to laugh loud. but ive also met gay people who don't act gay, who act normal but are gay. you would never have been able to guess. im not sure why some gay people feel the need to act out as if their perceptions on being gay are the stereotypical perceptions of societies view on gays. but either way...

i have no problem with gay people, they are just like any other human in the world, and should have the same rights as any human. i just like to point out that i think its really funny to watch the stereotypical gay, lololol!!!!
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Vast majority of gay friends that i have act like any other person ive met. Gay people are regular humans :). The only difference is they get on the good foot to do the bad thing in a different manner than I. :lol:
 
tinyTURTLE

tinyTURTLE

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people who think it's wrong to be gay are in the same boat as people who think it's cook to own slaves: wrong, wrong and fucking wrong.
who gives a fuck if someones feelings are hurt by something that doesn't directly affect them.
and yes... anyone i know who doesn't believe in gay rights gets ostracized, cut out of my life with little or no regret.
 
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