Three a Light???

MySativaArmy

MySativaArmy

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I just want to know how long it takes to get 3 pounds per light. Does it take all year, it looks his plants are supercroped to much so he has to take leafs off to prevent mold. I think I can do the same thing without taking leafs off in less time. I meet these guys and they can't answer these questions. I even asked them what type of light and they said doesn't matter. I was like wtf so a 400w bull crap. Anyways assuming 1000w it takes a long time to grow a plant, take all the leafs off, grow again and again. I have done this and I makes some sort of sense but a lot of work.
I would be happier with 1 pound every 3 months vs. 3 pounds every 9 months risking pests and theft
 
Odin*

Odin*

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MySativaArmy said:
I just want to know how long it takes to get 3 pounds per light.
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If you're running plants that finish between 8-9 weeks, small'ish grow, separate cure area, then you can take down 3 per every 8-9 weeks. Larger grow, drying in the same space, large crew, ~every 72 days.

MySativaArmy said:
Does it take all year, it looks his plants are supercroped to much so he has to take leafs off to prevent mold. I think I can do the same thing without taking leafs off in less time.
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No reason to remove leaves unless they are dead.

MySativaArmy said:
I meet these guys and they can't answer these questions. I even asked them what type of light and they said doesn't matter. I was like wtf so a 400w bull crap.
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Lighting is crucial. 3 per 16sqft is possible under a 1k SE, under DE I believe the "per light" amount can be increased due to their larger footprint. Haven't played with DE's yet.

MySativaArmy said:
I would be happier with 1 pound every 3 months vs. 3 pounds every 9 months risking pests and theft
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... and even happier with 3 every 9 weeks.
 
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DagrandPOOBAH

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Trippyness said:
I have done defoliation at Day 1 then every 2 weeks. Increases yield for sure and helps the stretch. Ill pick it up and pdf it. We can all see if its worth a dime or not. 500 is still way too much for a book, bit to help the community ill share it.
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Where's the pdf out did u decide not to
 
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DagrandPOOBAH

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PerfectGrower said:
Hey RM3,

I like your side by sides and it proves that defoliating will slow a plant down.

That being said, the demonstration in this video is a high yield technique and has been used for years by advanced growers. It is not new but there is an important note to consider...

You are doing a side by side where both plants have enough "space" to get adequate light. These high yield techniques in cages put a lot of tops into a very small area. The only way to make this work is to pull a lot of the fan leaves and allow the light to penetrate into this dense canopy of tops. Will the tops be smaller? Yes. If you took that same plant and gave it "more" space with less defoliating, would it be bigger? Yes. The reality is in a setup like this, that space doesn't exist.


I hope that makes sense. The idea is really to stack a ton of tops in a small area and thin the area around it. The colas will be a little smaller but you'll have a lot of them to make up for it.


I've seen setups that have even more tops that what this video shows. If it's done right, the yields are very nice :)
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No it doesnt prove anything. . he PROBABLY did it during bud and didnt switch ppm to replace nutrient loss and also the other techniques insode of the book. U guys wanna be roght so bad.. But are u getting 3 a light how about 2 lol surely not. The ego is a terrible growing partner.
 
Jaybodankly

Jaybodankly

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My hippie logic hypothesis. Most plants are used to being eaten. Not a problem for our plant in particular. Few people have a problem with topping a plant multiple times. Because the plant says fuck you and doubles it's growing tips. Now, an animal might eat the leaves and not the flowers. Eating dense resin will put off most critters but leaves cant get that densely covered. So, they get eaten. Plants have more leaves than they need because they need to survive. Stripping the leaves may signal to the plant it is being eaten and put energy into flower production which wont be eaten so easily.
 
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KryptoBud

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Jaybodankly said:
My hippie logic hypothesis. Most plants are used to being eaten. Not a problem for our plant in particular. Few people have a problem with topping a plant multiple times. Because the plant says fuck you and doubles it's growing tips. Now, an animal might eat the leaves and not the flowers. Eating dense resin will put off most critters but leaves cant get that densely covered. So, they get eaten. Plants have more leaves than they need because they need to survive. Stripping the leaves may signal to the plant it is being eaten and put energy into flower production which wont be eaten so easily.
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Topping works because you're cutting off the apical meristem, that produce auxins inhibiting lateral growth of everything below it. The real name of it is apical control.

Have any links explaining how or why plants grow to many leaves?
 
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atriumfall1

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Save yourself the money on the book. This works 100 percent however its strain dependent. If you are growing say og or diesel this method is for you. Not autoflowers. Contrary to popular belief flowers will grow just fine without leaves. Yes energy is stored there mostly carbs. But in a plants surivival when you remove all fan leaves the plant goes into almost an over time nuclear option. It starts looking for the carbs and it will get it anywhere it can. Under this method from my own experience i find the plants drinking at double the speeds. I also have to up my levels of pk in the 6th week a dash more than usual. You only get bigger yields if you have left bottom growth. This is because normally this is cleaned and removed with this method you leave most of it on. This method also requires a nutrient line that loads up on humic and magnesium. I can post pictures. Ill say this i dont do 3 a light but i get very close without sacrificing quality. No you dont need leaves to make buds.
 
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KryptoBud

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I like grasshoppers, spider mites, thrips, and caterpillars indoors and deer, rabbit, and panda bears for all my outdoor defoliation needs. Panda's can be fussy little pricks but they seem to like mandala seeds crops best. Plants blow up like chernobyl.
 
BigHornBuds

BigHornBuds

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CommercialGrow said:
Love those air pots for bloom. Here is an idea of the size plant a 3 gal airport can handle. Plant in the pic is only 3 wks into bloom and massive. Room has 16ft ceiling.
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Do you have any threads about huge plants in small pots ?
I've never seen a plant that big in a pot that small.

I'm using 10g smart pots , fabric pots , whatever u want to call them. I finish my veg in 3G plastic pots

53 days ago I decided to try 7g. I just started to flush (52)
So no numbers on weights etc , but the buds look and seem to be 15-20% smaller .

Running the 7g is better for me because it easier for maintenance etc. but it's not worth it at the 10-20% loss

What am I doing wrong?
 
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