Thripped!!!

electricthot12

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Early this morning I had to reset a light timer in my grow room before lights on, so I had my forehead light on. I had to sit on the floor to reach the timer, ( it was behind a grow bag), so I was looking up, at the underside of some flowering ladie's leaves. I was horrified to see white spots all over their undersides (the LED headlight made the thrips glow a ghastly white, similar to a black light glow). 60x and Google told me I had a bad thrips infestation. I had a very old bottle of pre-mixed Neem oil on the shelf, so old I looked to see if it had an expiration date (which it didn't) Not that it mattered enough to keep me from using it. I went crazy with it in my grow room. Walls, lights, grow medium, it was all gonna get wet!
There was like a cloud of thrips flying as I sprayed. No joke! I could literally see them writhing and wriggling as the Neem oil hit them. I don't have a killer instinct, but it felt good to know the Neem oil was not very passive in it's effect.
So, further searching told me I could expect very bad tasting smoke for what I had just done. But I would have sprayed anyway, as I have a young Stawberry Gorilla auto in there too. I had already been cutting on the Ladies, they are showing about 25% clouded trichomes now, and I just cut and trimmed some yesterday. I have already started flushing the medium. And now they are heavy with Neem.
So I started asking Google is there a way to wash the Neem off, and I found this:

"Do the Hydrogen Peroxide wash at harvest. One cup of H2O2 in 5 gallons of water. 5 minute soak, rinse in fresh water. You’ll love what it does for your buds. It won’t wash your trichomes/thc off and they’ll look clean and beautiful. And the crap it leaves behind in the wash water will make you wonder what the hell you’ve been ingesting.
Next year, I plan to try spraying with H2O2 during the grow. Unsure of the concentration yet, but I’ve read up to 1 cup/gallon."

I would add, don't use warm water which will soften the trichomes.
Sounds like it might be a good plan. Gonna check it out real soon.

EDIT: They are whiteflies. Not thrips.
 
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Hollatchaboy

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electricthot12 said:
Early this morning I had to reset a light timer in my grow room before lights on, so I had my forehead light on. I had to sit on the floor to reach the timer, ( it was behind a grow bag), so I was looking up, at the underside of some flowering ladie's leaves. I was horrified to see white spots all over their undersides (the LED headlight made the thrips glow a ghastly white, similar to a black light glow). 60x and Google told me I had a bad thrips infestation. I had a very old bottle of pre-mixed Neem oil on the shelf, so old I looked to see if it had an expiration date (which it didn't) Not that it mattered enough to keep me from using it. I went crazy with it in my grow room. Walls, lights, grow medium, it was all gonna get wet!
There was like a cloud of thrips flying as I sprayed. No joke! I could literally see them writhing and wriggling as the Neem oil hit them. I don't have a killer instinct, but it felt good to know the Neem oil was not very passive in it's effect.
So, further searching told me I could expect very bad tasting smoke for what I had just done. But I would have sprayed anyway, as I have a young Stawberry Gorilla auto in there too. I had already been cutting on the Ladies, they are showing about 25% clouded trichomes now, and I just cut and trimmed some yesterday. I have already started flushing the medium. And now they are heavy with Neem.
So I started asking Google is there a way to wash the Neem off, and I found this:

"Do the Hydrogen Peroxide wash at harvest. One cup of H2O2 in 5 gallons of water. 5 minute soak, rinse in fresh water. You’ll love what it does for your buds. It won’t wash your trichomes/thc off and they’ll look clean and beautiful. And the crap it leaves behind in the wash water will make you wonder what the hell you’ve been ingesting.
Next year, I plan to try spraying with H2O2 during the grow. Unsure of the concentration yet, but I’ve read up to 1 cup/gallon."

I would add, don't use warm water which will soften the trichomes.
Sounds like it might be a good plan. Gonna check it out real soon.
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Diluted citric acid in flower. Kills em dead, and won't fuck up the buds.
 
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Your description of the problem sounds like root aphids for me. At least this is my case. And cant spot differences quickly.
I may be trying neem foliar next days, for a while just letting the predators work, top dressing with compost full of mites, collembule and earthworms.
It worked last time for control.
Important to notice that sh1t came inside a commercial compost bought a month ago.
 
Hollatchaboy

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Weather Report said:
Your description of the problem sounds like root aphids for me. At least this is my case. And cant spot differences quickly.
I may be trying neem foliar next days, for a while just letting the predators work, top dressing with compost full of mites, collembule and earthworms.
It worked last time for control.
Important to notice that sh1t came inside a commercial compost bought a month ago.
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Yep, with nature, you get the bad, with the good. You need something that'll feed the beneficials. Lol
 
electricthot12

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Weather Report said:
Your description of the problem sounds like root aphids for me. At least this is my case. And cant spot differences quickly.
I may be trying neem foliar next days, for a while just letting the predators work, top dressing with compost full of mites, collembule and earthworms.
It worked last time for control.
Important to notice that sh1t came inside a commercial compost bought a month ago.
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It dawned on me I had lately been observing an abundance of what I have always called root gnats. I've never bothered with them. Store-bought potting soil can be full of them. They are always there. But these are not root gnats. At 60x, this is very much what they look like:
 

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electricthot12 said:
Early this morning I had to reset a light timer in my grow room before lights on, so I had my forehead light on. I had to sit on the floor to reach the timer, ( it was behind a grow bag), so I was looking up, at the underside of some flowering ladie's leaves. I was horrified to see white spots all over their undersides (the LED headlight made the thrips glow a ghastly white, similar to a black light glow). 60x and Google told me I had a bad thrips infestation. I had a very old bottle of pre-mixed Neem oil on the shelf, so old I looked to see if it had an expiration date (which it didn't) Not that it mattered enough to keep me from using it. I went crazy with it in my grow room. Walls, lights, grow medium, it was all gonna get wet!
There was like a cloud of thrips flying as I sprayed. No joke! I could literally see them writhing and wriggling as the Neem oil hit them. I don't have a killer instinct, but it felt good to know the Neem oil was not very passive in it's effect.
So, further searching told me I could expect very bad tasting smoke for what I had just done. But I would have sprayed anyway, as I have a young Stawberry Gorilla auto in there too. I had already been cutting on the Ladies, they are showing about 25% clouded trichomes now, and I just cut and trimmed some yesterday. I have already started flushing the medium. And now they are heavy with Neem.
So I started asking Google is there a way to wash the Neem off, and I found this:

"Do the Hydrogen Peroxide wash at harvest. One cup of H2O2 in 5 gallons of water. 5 minute soak, rinse in fresh water. You’ll love what it does for your buds. It won’t wash your trichomes/thc off and they’ll look clean and beautiful. And the crap it leaves behind in the wash water will make you wonder what the hell you’ve been ingesting.
Next year, I plan to try spraying with H2O2 during the grow. Unsure of the concentration yet, but I’ve read up to 1 cup/gallon."

I would add, don't use warm water which will soften the trichomes.
Sounds like it might be a good plan. Gonna check it out real soon.
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I'm in a panic. I just went in there with my Ortho house pest insecticide. It has the added advantage of an electric sprayer which lets me spray the underside of the leaves. I tried to be sparing. Hope that hydrogen peroxide rinse works.....
 
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Hollatchaboy said:
Yep, with nature, you get the bad, with the good. You need something that'll feed the beneficials. Lol
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I'm trying to apply soil food web concepts from Elaine Ingham works, taking all the decomposed matter from the worm bin and topping... it takes the guys with his native home and food... watering, the guys flow down the pot through the roots to eat what's there... eggs and ninfas
Hope it works
 
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electricthot12 said:
It dawned on me I had lately been observing an abundance of what I have always called root gnats. I've never bothered with them. Store-bought potting soil can be full of them. They are always there. But these are not root gnats. At 60x, this is very much what they look like:
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I need one of these magnifiers, fantastic tool for organics.
I noticed a tank beetle while repotting, walking in the roots. So in a closer look in the surface could see that thing flying. I know fungus gnats from my first grow, always been there and never had any problem, but winged-root-aphids are a little different, noticeable differences by naked eye...
But I may have both. The recovering processes are almost the same for what I've been reading in the last 48 hours.
Trying not to freak out completely. Sh1t is like STDs.
 
Dboybudz

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electricthot12 said:
Early this morning I had to reset a light timer in my grow room before lights on, so I had my forehead light on. I had to sit on the floor to reach the timer, ( it was behind a grow bag), so I was looking up, at the underside of some flowering ladie's leaves. I was horrified to see white spots all over their undersides (the LED headlight made the thrips glow a ghastly white, similar to a black light glow). 60x and Google told me I had a bad thrips infestation. I had a very old bottle of pre-mixed Neem oil on the shelf, so old I looked to see if it had an expiration date (which it didn't) Not that it mattered enough to keep me from using it. I went crazy with it in my grow room. Walls, lights, grow medium, it was all gonna get wet!
There was like a cloud of thrips flying as I sprayed. No joke! I could literally see them writhing and wriggling as the Neem oil hit them. I don't have a killer instinct, but it felt good to know the Neem oil was not very passive in it's effect.
So, further searching told me I could expect very bad tasting smoke for what I had just done. But I would have sprayed anyway, as I have a young Stawberry Gorilla auto in there too. I had already been cutting on the Ladies, they are showing about 25% clouded trichomes now, and I just cut and trimmed some yesterday. I have already started flushing the medium. And now they are heavy with Neem.
So I started asking Google is there a way to wash the Neem off, and I found this:

"Do the Hydrogen Peroxide wash at harvest. One cup of H2O2 in 5 gallons of water. 5 minute soak, rinse in fresh water. You’ll love what it does for your buds. It won’t wash your trichomes/thc off and they’ll look clean and beautiful. And the crap it leaves behind in the wash water will make you wonder what the hell you’ve been ingesting.
Next year, I plan to try spraying with H2O2 during the grow. Unsure of the concentration yet, but I’ve read up to 1 cup/gallon."

I would add, don't use warm water which will soften the trichomes.
Sounds like it might be a good plan. Gonna check it out real soon.
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Yea never use neem up to two weeks in flowering when done and close at least couple weeks
 
electricthot12

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electricthot12 said:
Early this morning I had to reset a light timer in my grow room before lights on, so I had my forehead light on. I had to sit on the floor to reach the timer, ( it was behind a grow bag), so I was looking up, at the underside of some flowering ladie's leaves. I was horrified to see white spots all over their undersides (the LED headlight made the thrips glow a ghastly white, similar to a black light glow). 60x and Google told me I had a bad thrips infestation. I had a very old bottle of pre-mixed Neem oil on the shelf, so old I looked to see if it had an expiration date (which it didn't) Not that it mattered enough to keep me from using it. I went crazy with it in my grow room. Walls, lights, grow medium, it was all gonna get wet!
There was like a cloud of thrips flying as I sprayed. No joke! I could literally see them writhing and wriggling as the Neem oil hit them. I don't have a killer instinct, but it felt good to know the Neem oil was not very passive in it's effect.
So, further searching told me I could expect very bad tasting smoke for what I had just done. But I would have sprayed anyway, as I have a young Stawberry Gorilla auto in there too. I had already been cutting on the Ladies, they are showing about 25% clouded trichomes now, and I just cut and trimmed some yesterday. I have already started flushing the medium. And now they are heavy with Neem.
So I started asking Google is there a way to wash the Neem off, and I found this:

"Do the Hydrogen Peroxide wash at harvest. One cup of H2O2 in 5 gallons of water. 5 minute soak, rinse in fresh water. You’ll love what it does for your buds. It won’t wash your trichomes/thc off and they’ll look clean and beautiful. And the crap it leaves behind in the wash water will make you wonder what the hell you’ve been ingesting.
Next year, I plan to try spraying with H2O2 during the grow. Unsure of the concentration yet, but I’ve read up to 1 cup/gallon."

I would add, don't use warm water which will soften the trichomes.
Sounds like it might be a good plan. Gonna check it out real soon.

EDIT: They are whiteflies. Not thrips.
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They are whiteflies. I'm gonna get a bomb fogger.
 
tyler.durden

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For thrip infestations, I've always used something with spinosad. This is my fav product -

Amazon link

I took each plant to the shower and drenched them, especially the underside of each leaf. I tried to get every nook and cranny, stem, and even drench the top of the medium. The girls loved it, it didn't hurt the buds, and I know they were happy to be rid of the itchy little suckers. Only one treatment was necessary, because I sprayed so thoroughly, plus the product has a nice residual effect (couple weeks I think). It is even somewhat effective on mites, though not my main go to for those. Good luck, I hate thrips more than mites...

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potpimp

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tyler.durden said:
For thrip infestations, I've always used something with spinosad. This is my fav product -

Amazon link

I took each plant to the shower and drenched them, especially the underside of each leaf. I tried to get every nook and cranny, stem, and even drench the top of the medium. The girls loved it, it didn't hurt the buds, and I know they were happy to be rid of the itchy little suckers. Only one treatment was necessary, because I sprayed so thoroughly, plus the product has a nice residual effect (couple weeks I think). It is even somewhat effective on mites, though not my main go to for those. Good luck, I hate thrips more than mites...

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That looks like good stuff and it's organic! I just ordered a 16oz bottle! Thanks for the tip!
 
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