Throw away 6ft plant or no? (pics)

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kermit2692

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Jerseykushface said:
Bs don't listen to this guy 80 is not that hot. My room gets up to 80 n my plants are very healthy

Everyone is giving ideas based off the info given and pics
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Lmao.. The guy is a newer grower he's best off if he keeps it under eighty yes a few days that hit eighty out running at eighty without going over in SOME setups won't cause trouble, but if you're keeping them constantly over eighty you are in the danger zone unless you have co2, you will definitely see a difference in quality and someone who is commonly over eighty is likely hitting 85 on hot days... Not to mention a new grower in a certain set up might need to stay lower than eighty due to light intensity whereas your particular grow might be set up in a way that you're fine hitting eighty..orrr maybe you're growing sub par bud and you have to much pride to realize that. THE IDEAL TEMPERATURE RANGE FOR CANNABIS IS 70-75 GIVE OR TAKE A COUPLE ONLY. There's no debate 80 is running hot and not ideal
 
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greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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kermit2692 said:
Lmao.. The guy is a newer grower he's best off if he keeps it under eighty yes a few days that hit eighty out running at eighty without going over in SOME setups won't cause trouble, but if you're keeping them constantly over eighty you are in the danger zone unless you have co2, you will definitely see a difference in quality and someone who is commonly over eighty is likely hitting 85 on hot days... Not to mention a new grower in a certain set up might need to stay lower than eighty due to light intensity whereas your particular grow might be set up in a way that you're fine hitting eighty..orrr maybe you're growing sub par bud and you have to much pride to realize that. THE IDEAL TEMPERATURE RANGE FOR CANNABIS IS 70-75 GIVE OR TAKE A COUPLE ONLY. There's no debate 80 is running hot and not ideal
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That advice isn't exactly correct, I've grown outside plants in HOT California weather and as long as the roots stay hydrated you aren't going to get "fluffy" buds.
80 ain't shit man.
I've had grows where I NEVER even saw 80 degrees in the daytime, you just gotta keep em hydrated and hope for no wind.
buds as dense as boulders
California is hot, and damn near the entire state is growing dense ass outdoor nugs
temps in the 80s are fine.
even in the 90s its ok, when it becomes an issue is when it's either too windy and dry coupled with the high temps, or if they run dry.

My point is, if you think that plant has the problems it does, simply from 80 degree temps, you are incorrect.
 
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kermit2692

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greasemonkeymann said:
That advice isn't exactly correct, I've grown outside plants in HOT California weather and as long as the roots stay hydrated you aren't going to get "fluffy" buds.
80 ain't shit man.
I've had grows where I NEVER even saw 80 degrees in the daytime, you just gotta keep em hydrated and hope for no wind.
buds as dense as boulders
California is hot, and damn near the entire state is growing dense ass outdoor nugs
temps in the 80s are fine.
even in the 90s its ok, when it becomes an issue is when it's either too windy and dry coupled with the high temps, or if they run dry.

My point is, if you think that plant has the problems it does, simply from 80 degree temps, you are incorrect.
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That's outdoors. With indoor plants heat intensity can be higher at a lower temperature... I'm confident his 85 degree temps are his problem.. At the very least a heavy contributing factor
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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kermit2692 said:
That's outdoors. With indoor plants heat intensity can be higher at a lower temperature... I'm confident his 85 degree temps are his problem.. At the very least a heavy contributing factor
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surely you didn't mean that lights are brighter indoors, right?
and indoors I've done countless harvests at temps routinely at or above 85 degrees, i'm saying that doesn't cause his growth irregularities.
or at least in the 25 yrs that I've been growing indoors.
you are totally right if you said at 95 or so it has issues, but at 80/85?
not in my experience, I've never ran air conditioning in any of my indoor grows and each day i'd check the "high" temps on my thermometer (as everyone should each day)
each and every day it was in the high 80s to low 90s, and those temps won't cause that weird growth.
i'd say MOST indoor grows get in the high 80s each night, at least the ones using high watts per square foot (not counting LEDs)
at this point I simply don't agree, but whats new on this site..
 
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kermit2692

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greasemonkeymann said:
surely you didn't mean that lights are brighter indoors, right?
and indoors I've done countless harvests at temps routinely at or above 85 degrees, i'm saying that doesn't cause his growth irregularities.
or at least in the 25 yrs that I've been growing indoors.
you are totally right if you said at 95 or so it has issues, but at 80/85?
not in my experience, I've never ran air conditioning in any of my indoor grows and each day i'd check the "high" temps on my thermometer (as everyone should each day)
each and every day it was in the high 80s to low 90s, and those temps won't cause that weird growth.
i'd say MOST indoor grows get in the high 80s each night, at least the ones using high watts per square foot (not counting LEDs)
at this point I simply don't agree, but whats new on this site..
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Surely I mean heat from artificial lights is more intense indoors at a few feet away than the heat intensity of the sun outside with wind from the sky. Like I said. Really don't care to hear your opinion and watch as you spread misinformation. It's a known fact that 75 is ideal and it's a common rule of thumb to stay under eighty. Google search it any little page about how to grow your own will mention temperature and they will all say near 75 is the sweet spot. 85 for co2 grows. If you're running at ninety and eighty five mainly why don't you get off your high horse and drop those temps and see how much better your bud turns out. My buddy just ran his first without me and couple weeks before chop I told him it feels hot everything else looks good, bud looks good. After harvest the zing wasn't there. Best weed I've seen grown in high heat. Yet still wasn't dank, it was some high heat middies, I've seen a warm grow room (over eighty for many days) kill a few newbie harvests. I've told them that's the problem and helped solve it and boom killer bud. Some of you old growers are so set in your ways you don't realize your product is shit, maybe yours is good or maybe you have it all wrong and you're giving advice based on a biased opinion that your stuff is good. Look at my avatar, that backs up everything I say, lets see your 85 degree no co2 buds.
 
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kermit2692

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Most grows get into eighties at night?! Why would it happen at night... Do you live somewhere that gets warmer at night because for most of us on the planet earth nights get cooler.. If you're running at night, well, then it's not night that's "day". Also my grows NEVER are allowed to get over eighty. Immediate action is taken if it does. Night temps should drop off and lower about ten degrees for best results.
 
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You guys should have a look at RM's grow, canopy temps over 80 I believe and some pretty good looking girls. Temps alone are just one piece of the puzzle I think, to say that 80 is to hot is not really a true statement IMO but that's my opinion. My room rarely gets over 80 and is kept at 75ish but I also do not control humidity other than passive intake of cool, dry air.
 
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But yes the plant does look like it is to hot and possibly revegged but I have had plants that when get stressed and hot do start to throw single blade leaves near the end.
 
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kermit2692 said:
Most grows get into eighties at night?! Why would it happen at night... Do you live somewhere that gets warmer at night because for most of us on the planet earth nights get cooler.. If you're running at night, well, then it's not night that's "day". Also my grows NEVER are allowed to get over eighty. Immediate action is taken if it does. Night temps should drop off and lower about ten degrees for best results.
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I too run that varied temp zone of Riddle's.

90+ at canopy
Middle to high 70's mid plant and upper 60's at pot level ! I have zero density problems!

Never really considered the varying zone's till Riddle brought it up.......I metered the zone's by Therm and laser therm.....Sure enough, I was doing it. Room temp at thermostat height is like 72 - 78 at 5 feet.
 
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Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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I run some pretty high temps as well when plants are at their peak, more to do with lack of air circ, and plants do ok but not much room for error re: fan failure and plants burning to shit, it happened :(.
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

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the singles leaves looks like it's revegged imo, like a few others have suggested.. the single leaves in the buds is a sure sign it's revegged..
how are you monitoring light hours? are you doing it manually? if so, you may have messed up the times more than a few times, and caused a reveg.. if you're using a timer, i'd look at getting a new one.. they're relatively cheap, under $10 or so, and i'd make sure it's set at 12 hours on and 12 off, and keep an eye on it for awhile and make sure it's working correctly..
growth will be funky for a awhile, more of the single leaves for sure, but it should turn back to flowering in 2 or 3 weeks time or so..
the choice is yours, you can chop it, or give it some time to come back around.. it's not a huge deal imo, you've definitely stunted it a bit and will take much longer than what the breeder suggests as a result..
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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kermit2692 said:
Surely I mean heat from artificial lights is more intense indoors at a few feet away than the heat intensity of the sun outside with wind from the sky. Like I said. Really don't care to hear your opinion and watch as you spread misinformation. It's a known fact that 75 is ideal and it's a common rule of thumb to stay under eighty. Google search it any little page about how to grow your own will mention temperature and they will all say near 75 is the sweet spot. 85 for co2 grows. If you're running at ninety and eighty five mainly why don't you get off your high horse and drop those temps and see how much better your bud turns out. My buddy just ran his first without me and couple weeks before chop I told him it feels hot everything else looks good, bud looks good. After harvest the zing wasn't there. Best weed I've seen grown in high heat. Yet still wasn't dank, it was some high heat middies, I've seen a warm grow room (over eighty for many days) kill a few newbie harvests. I've told them that's the problem and helped solve it and boom killer bud. Some of you old growers are so set in your ways you don't realize your product is shit, maybe yours is good or maybe you have it all wrong and you're giving advice based on a biased opinion that your stuff is good. Look at my avatar, that backs up everything I say, lets see your 85 degree no co2 buds.
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well aren't you a mouthy lil one.
For your information, a "biased opinion" wouldn't be based on experience, nor would it be based on growing under ALL types of circumstances.
Ok, I bet your weed is the best on this forum, and NOBODY can grow good weed in the high temps.
you are totally right, and I bow to your magnificent horticulture prowess.
I am sure all of us here with decades of experience have no clue how to do it.
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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kermit2692 said:
Some of you old growers are so set in your ways you don't realize your product is shit, maybe yours is good or maybe you have it all wrong and you're giving advice based on a biased opinion that your stuff is good. Look at my avatar, that backs up everything I say, lets see your 85 degree no co2 buds.
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kermit2692

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greasemonkeymann said:
well aren't you a mouthy lil one.
For your information, a "biased opinion" wouldn't be based on experience, nor would it be based on growing under ALL types of circumstances.
Ok, I bet your weed is the best on this forum, and NOBODY can grow good weed in the high temps.
you are totally right, and I bow to your magnificent horticulture prowess.
I am sure all of us here with decades of experience have no clue how to do it.
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Knew you would come around ;D
 
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