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jigfresh

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Thanks a lot for the link and info Max! Really appreciated.

I love the people you hang out with TC. Knowledgeable bunch of folks.

Finally you get to try the damn sinmints. Been like 8 months I've been hearing about it since you went to the cup. I hope the smoke is all you hoped for.
 

Thundercat

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I hope they are some good smoke too man. Its funny looking back to april like that. Before the cup I had never even heard of Sin City Seeds, but they represented well, and getting the free pack of seeds just sort of set off a mission. Then with them letting me test these other strains as well, I gotta say I've been impressed. I'm mildly bummed that so far I havn't got a female that has smelled minty, but its all good cus I do have some dank smoke still. We'll see if this next batch of seedlings produces anything minty :).
 

jigfresh

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The mint smell may be like the super secret spy thing on the ovalteen containers in The Christmas Story. After years and years of growing out sinmints seeds you finally get the pheno that smells like mint.... and it doesn't get you high for shit. lol
 

Thundercat

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Beautiful Welsh!!!

I hear about the mint pheno being around Jig, if I get one sweet, but I can say I don't care enough to run another pack of seeds. There are toooo many other strains on my list of things I'd like to run to be pheno hunting a low yielding connoisseur plant.
 

max420thc

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Your plants look great TC.LOTS of resin.
If your humidity is low it will cause huge amounts of resin development.This is a good thing.The problem is if your humidity is to low it will also cause a decrease in production.
You have a plant your SM plant ,it looks like the plant one of my buddies grows.His plant looks great but it produces almost nothing.It is because his humidity is to low.
Ill take the same plant and produce like a thousand times more dope off of the same plant because my humidity is under control.I try and keep it around 50%.
I cant say if its the only reason i out produce him with the same plant but it is one of the reasons for sure.
Orca film will help anyones grow.
The best sure fire way of increasing resin production and potency is to drop temp at least 15 degrees with lights off and if you can.This is not always possible to drop humidity levels when lights go off too.Have humidity at around 50% when lights are on and drop it to around 35 to 40% when the lights are off.
The plants natural defense against cold dry weather is resin.Resin to retain its own water and to insulate itself against cold.
Buds on the other hand need moist warm weather to develop correctly along with good constant airflow.
If your humidity is to low, as i suspect it is, all you would have to do to correct it is put some water in pots in front of a fan. or use a hudson sprayer to moisten UNDER the plants and allow the moisture to evaporate into the air under the plants.I think this would greatly increase your production on your plant yet retain the quality of resin you are getting.
This is just based upon what i have seen and seen before.It does not mean it is correct this time.
 

Thundercat

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Its very plausible it is low right now, but that should have only been in the last 2 months I'd say. Now that its freezing out my humidty dropped alot I think. That being said, I think the lack of production on the SM's was strongly due to topping them right when I flipped them, and genetics. Almost every completed report I've read about the Sinmints says they are not huge producers for the most part. The Cindy 99s I've got running seem like they might be some of the best yielding I've had. I suppose it all comes down to different strains liking different things. I'm going to the store tomorrow I think, I'm gonna finally buy a hygrometer so I can see what its like in there now that we are talking about it.
 

max420thc

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I hang em all over the room and the dehumidifier has another humidity level reading.At different levels in the room you will get different humidity readings.The moisture being heavier than air will be higher at the ground or floor.The warmer the air the more moisture it will hold.When lights go off and the temperature drops the moisture hits a dew point.Or when the air temperature will no longer hold the moisture suspended in it and it will fall out of the air being heavier than the air.This is what causes the grass to be wet in the morning when you walk outside in the spring and fall.
To cold of water in the res or too cold a temps in the grow will slow the plants finish time down.This can be viewed as a good or a bad thing.To slow the finish time down a little is not always a bad thing.But if its to cold it can slow the plants down a month or so with poor development normally to go along with it
It will be interesting to see what your humidity levels are at.Id love to see you getting larger buds and a larger production.Your quality looks great.
For the cost of a spray bottle and some water WA LA..just like magic production is UP.Not a bad thing?
I know what its like to grow non productive strains for quality.
I was just gifted with a cindy 99 and a GDP.One smells like pineapple the other like grape cool aid.Both huge producers.I was gifted from another guy a strain that is showing great promise i am running through it is a cross between a ultra blue berry and a strain known locally as horse hair.A real nice producer.Real easy to clean very few leaves with nice round hand grenade buds that get orange hair all over it.Kind of like a blue berry afghan taste to it.
Talk to you tomorrow TC.take care and thanks for sharing your grow with us.
 

Thundercat

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Hehe I thought those looked like PVs :). JTR is on my list, I don't have the hard on some people do for TGA gear, but JTR is one I've wanted to try as is the AOS. That being said this tangerine power I'm running is a cross with TGAs Agent orange and it is one of the nicest smelling plants.

Max I thought I'd add. I've got several strains going that do produce nicely. I ended up with a couple phenos from my SCS testers that produced real well(over an oz each). I also run a Dinafem critical jack that produces decently, and a dinafem sweet deep grapefruit. Both of those typically produce about an oz per. The Cindy pheno I have I'd say is typically at about the 3/4 mark. Another thing about my grow is my plants don't get much veg at all they go into flower at about 6-8 inchs tall.

Stopped over yesterday and grabbed a bottle of flora nova. I just got the quart for now to finish out the next couple months. That will mean the plants that are just starting to flower will have been ran with only floranova(and a little protek) for their life. Then I'll decide if I wanna continue with it, or try out the AN. Its possible part of the reason I'm like the floranova is how I'm mixing it. I'm going a little stronger then the lucas formula I've used in the past. My ppm are still hanging right around 1200 most of the time, but I suppose its got a better mix of nutes in it if the plants are happier.
 

max420thc

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The conditions of the grow dictate the style we can grow in.How high are the ceiling's etc.My plants are vegged to around 2 ft tall before they go into bud.
The same plant my buddy grows he might get a half ounce off of i get two to three ounces off of.My ripper and querkle are both small producers but i coax extra production out of them.
The new AN schedule drops allot of the additives out of the formula so my formula is going to change some for my nute mix.
Im not here to tell anyone how to grow or what to do.I will give you my mix to anyone who wants it that has taken me years to get close to perfect.It will run ALMOST..any plant as close to perfection as you can get it to run.Except for a small amount of indica's that burn on it.
After trying AN,sensi and iguana,dynogrow,cyco,DM gold,and fox farms i have come to the conclusion AN makes the best base nutes available for what i want to accomplish.I would try canna if i could get it as i have seen some excellent results from it.Also blue planet seems to be pretty good from what i have seen.(thanks raiderman)
You will get a little better yields out of DM gold.But will not get the resin production or flavor.
I do not want a stable PH..i want it somewhat stable but i want it to range through out the areas that the plant uptakes it nutes and micros.At a completely stable PH it will miss ranges that it takes up some of its nutes/micros.Ph is set around 5.8 to 6
Here is a list of my feeding schedule.The nutes are changed every week.The reason is we do not as growers know what the plant is eating out of the nute solution at a given stage of the plants life cycle.Some times it wants more N others it wants more P or K.The best way is to make sure what they want at any given stage is available is to change the res once a week with fresh nutes.
WEEK 1:AN sensi bloom two part,2 drops a gallon of super thrive,80 grams of bud blood.Either carbo load or bud candy.Humboldt countys own snow storm ultra,Silica blast,Nirvana,Pinch of azomite,Zone by DM,Some of these numbers are based on a 55 gallon res.I start the nutes out at 500 ml per 55 gallon and at finish the last two weeks end up at 700 ml per 55 gallon drum.Raising ML 50 per week until week 5
Weeks 2 through 5:Add Big Bud at 80 grams per 55 gallon drum.Humboldt countrys own crystal burst,Drop out bud blood.It is used only the first week.
Week 5 through 7 drop big bud out and add over drive.
Week 8 flush with grotek final flush ,superthrive at 3 drops a gallon.Sea weed juice and change res a couple of times.
I dont care what anyone says about not flushing on here..if you flush it will make your smoke allot smoother and taste better.No need in spending extra nutes at the last week the plant will contain the energy left within itself to finish itself off.We are of course talking about hydro.If it is dirt organic growing you are into you will not need to flush.
If all of your enviro conditions..temps humidity airflow this formula will run a plant,almost any plant as close to perfection as you can get.
Perfect is a big word and a hard to achieve goal.This formula will keep your plants health ,productive and fast all the way through the grow.
 

Thundercat

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Hey fellas, hope everyone is done with their shopping.....if you do that. If not, I hope you have been able to avoid the stupid crowds and lines everywhere :).

We are having a nice week. I had a small amount of water to deal with the other night after a whole day of rain, but nothing I couldn't handle by moving around a few fans. Hehe the humidity is up atleast for a few days. On that note I was at the store today, and in the mess of everything forgot the humidity gauge(or whatever you call them my mind isn't working atm).

Nothing all that big going on other wise. Gonna be gone from wednesday till friday so hopefully no issues while I"m gone.(fingers crossed)

Everyone have a safe week, and a great holiday of choice.
 

jigfresh

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Happy Christmas or whatever to you too bro. I'm gonna celebrate by visiting friends I ain't seen in about 15 years. Super stoked. At least 1 good thing will come from this oh so stressful season. :)

Hope everything is good while you are gone.
 

Thundercat

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Have fun with your buddies Jig! I just took about 15 clones, so I can add that to my list of things to wonder about while I"m gone. Really though I'm not to worried, its only gonna be 2 nights, so thats not bad.
 

max420thc

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Merry Christmas gents.Pulled 36 yesterday..cleaned processed and in the drying racks with a dehumidifier running drying them down.New plants reloaded and running again..took around 6 hours or around 18 total man hours.That trim machine was some of the best money i have ever spent.Take a week and a half job of trimming down to a day or so.It took maybe 8 total hours to trim and the rest to clean and replant.I hate picking and cleaning bud for weeks.wow..It really sucks other than smoking the finger while you are doing it...thing is you cant get your fingers to light a bic lighter because they are so sticky with resin.
The trim machine after all the buds are removed of large fan leaves and removed from the stalks and stems grinds the sugar leafs down into fine material that makes really good quality hash and shatter.
The machine cost around 400 bucks on ebay called a reaper pro.The only draw back is the cheap motor they put into the machine is not a capacitor start motor.So it does not like to start the blades moving so you have to give it a little bump with a stick to get the blades started in rotation.It is just a regular type 42 frame motor and can be changed out at a latter date with a capacitor start /run motor.The machine is made out of nice stainless steel with super sharp blades .They will cut the hell out of you if you get near them.But does a excellent job of cleaning the buds super fast.Once you learn how to use it you will gain a little weight be not having to handle the buds trimming them and tearing them apart.The buds stay more intact and the finished product is nice and tight, nice clean buds..pretty.
 

SOMEBEECH

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Merry X mas TC Fam.Playing Santa t-night TC? LOL HO HO HO and a bottle of rum for the Extracts.Makes Santa happy happy happy.
Beech:mrgreen:
ps.I left about 5-7gs of herb on the boiler heater deal and forgot it for over 2 weeks.
Got very dry and brittle....crumbles to touch.Did wash and damn ifts not my cleanest batch YET!
 

Thundercat

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MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!

Hope you all have had a great morning and got some great stuff. The wife got me a gift certificate for a new higher power adjustable battery for my vape pen :), and some sweet shirts. The inlaws set me up with a 6 pack of bluemoon, and a fifth of whiskey :) all a round good christmas here. My daughter has had a blast and loved the new scooby doo van and figures we got her, and honestly seemed equally excited about a puzzle that teaches math which was cool.

The clones I took the other night are looking great, I watered everything real well about midnight, and sprayed the clones down a little extra. So things should be fine for the next couple days, obviously barring the unforeseen.

I'll talk to you guys this weekend unless I get on the phone if I'm bored.

Peace TC
 
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