Tincture advice sought

Mr Neutron

Mr Neutron

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I am making my first attempt to make Green Dragon. I have read many threads and I know it's best to use 151 or 190 proof alcohol and it's best to use cheesecloth and it's best to use high grade weed BUT I am using coffee filters because I cannot find cheesecloth, I'm using shwag and the strongest alcohol I can get is 40%. In other words, my resources are limited.
So, my questions are:
1) Should I draw out as much THC as I can in a "first bath", strain and repeat with fresh alcohol? Or add fresh alcohol to the tincture, before removing material, to completely capture all of the THC?
2) What ratio of grams to oz/ml?
If this subject has been documented already, I apologize for the repeat, I didn't see it.
 
Hugo Phurst

Hugo Phurst

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40% alcohol, won't make a tincure, but it will make Green Dragon. (same but different)

If you can get 99% ISO....

Put the ISO in the freezer for a day. Super dry the weed you're going to use, I do it in the oven at 140F until it's completely dry. Bust up the weed to rolling size. Put the weed in the freezer (in a sealable glass jar or whatever) for several hours.

You'll want a coarse strainer, like what you use for rice or vegatables, and something under it to catch the liquid.

When the ISO and weed are as cold as they're going to get, pour the Iso into the jar with the weed until the ISO just covers the weed.

Seal it and give it a shake, put it back in the freezer....repeat 3 times in 15 or 20 minutes.

Using the coarse strainer, seperate the ISO from the weed, don't rush, but the quicker the better.

Now you're going to use the coffee filter, and this is going to take a while.
Strain the seperated ISO mixture, throught the coffee filter into another bowl.

In a WELL VENTILATED AREA, either set the bowl in another larger bowl of hot water, or set the ISO in front of a fan, and leave it overnight.

What you now have, is as pure of an extract as you're going to get, without special equipment.

You can make you tincure with it, add a little powder and it's hash, add oil or butter for cooking.

I just added my extract to 151 rum, it makes for a great pain killer.

Hope that helped.
 
Hugo Phurst

Hugo Phurst

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Lolz, only half a reply.

If you can't get ISO, and you only have 40%.

Super dry weed same as above.
Mix weed and hooch as above.
Store in freezer for at least 3 days, shaking mixture twice a day.

Strain.

You now have Green Dragon
 
Mr Neutron

Mr Neutron

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Thanks for the reply. Perhaps I did not express that my resources are extremely limited, enough. Yes, I can get ISO, it's 71.5% alcohol and I don't have an oven to dry the weed.
Now, to my questions:

1) Should I draw out as much THC as I can in a "first bath", strain and repeat with fresh alcohol? Or add fresh alcohol to the tincture, before removing material, to completely capture all of the THC?
2) What ratio of grams to oz/ml?
 
Hugo Phurst

Hugo Phurst

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Mr Neutron said:
1) Should I draw out as much THC as I can in a "first bath", strain and repeat with fresh alcohol?
2) What ratio of grams to oz/ml?
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1 - Yes, after straining, squeeze the weed to get out what you can, then if you want (you really don't need to), rinse with a small amount of fresh alcohol.

2. - Just enough alcohol to cover the pot, the less alcohol to more pot, the better.

71.5% ISO can't be used.
 
K

Kervork

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Green dragon and the other methods that call for cooking your weed and soaking it for a month all kind of suck. If you want good tincture start with a very concentrated extract like BHO, or Qwiso.
I cook my material after extracting, not before, that way I get less crap in the mix. I've used both BHO and qwiso 90% iso and they both work.
I've found that cooking extract at 235 for about 45 minutes is enough to activate it.

When working with alcohol, a wash of only 30 to 60 seconds on dry material is more than adequate for extraction. Anything past that just gets you more chlorophyl.

Qwiso typically results in a reddish tincture. BHO results in a golden tincture. I had one batch that was so potent a single dropper incapacitated me for 6 hours.

Details of the last batch...
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/528092-closet-grower.html
 
Mr Neutron

Mr Neutron

Well-Known Member
Kervork said:
Green dragon and the other methods that call for cooking your weed and soaking it for a month all kind of suck. If you want good tincture start with a very concentrated extract like BHO, or Qwiso.
I cook my material after extracting, not before, that way I get less crap in the mix. I've used both BHO and qwiso 90% iso and they both work.
I've found that cooking extract at 235 for about 45 minutes is enough to activate it.

When working with alcohol, a wash of only 30 to 60 seconds on dry material is more than adequate for extraction. Anything past that just gets you more chlorophyl.

Qwiso typically results in a reddish tincture. BHO results in a golden tincture. I had one batch that was so potent a single dropper incapacitated me for 6 hours.

Details of the last batch...
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/528092-closet-grower.html
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Perhaps you missed the:

Mr Neutron said:
I am using coffee filters because I cannot find cheesecloth, I'm using shwag and the strongest alcohol I can get is 40%. In other words, my resources are limited.
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... and the:

Mr Neutron said:
Perhaps I did not express that my resources are extremely limited, enough.
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Chiggachamp

Chiggachamp

Active Member
Hugo Phurst said:
40% alcohol, won't make a tincure, but it will make Green Dragon. (same but different)

If you can get 99% ISO....

Put the ISO in the freezer for a day. Super dry the weed you're going to use, I do it in the oven at 140F until it's completely dry. Bust up the weed to rolling size. Put the weed in the freezer (in a sealable glass jar or whatever) for several hours.

You'll want a coarse strainer, like what you use for rice or vegatables, and something under it to catch the liquid.

When the ISO and weed are as cold as they're going to get, pour the Iso into the jar with the weed until the ISO just covers the weed.

Seal it and give it a shake, put it back in the freezer....repeat 3 times in 15 or 20 minutes.

Using the coarse strainer, seperate the ISO from the weed, don't rush, but the quicker the better.

Now you're going to use the coffee filter, and this is going to take a while.
Strain the seperated ISO mixture, throught the coffee filter into another bowl.

In a WELL VENTILATED AREA, either set the bowl in another larger bowl of hot water, or set the ISO in front of a fan, and leave it overnight.

What you now have, is as pure of an extract as you're going to get, without special equipment.

You can make you tincure with it, add a little powder and it's hash, add oil or butter for cooking.

I just added my extract to 151 rum, it makes for a great pain killer.

Hope that helped.
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Thanks bro bro. +rep fersure. Ill be doin this ,this weekend. Haha
 
SelfDutchOven

SelfDutchOven

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If you cant get your hands on atleast 91% iso or b 151 i would just cook with it or make ice hash.... i use the method above and evaporate over night.. with super dry grade a trim i get about 30% back from what i put in
 
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