Tired of hearing.... What can you do for me as a Caregiver!

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cruzer101

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It is against the law to profit from the sales of marijuana no matter who you are or what state you live in.
All you guys who are posting about your business model and how much you get per oz, ever thought of that?
 
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hic

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Not only is it illigal it is very disgusting to read numbers every other post. Maybe your words of insight will change the flow in the MI sub forum.

If they loved to grow as they state they do, the numbers would not exsist so boldly.
 
rzza

rzza

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cruzer101, can you link me to proof of that? i read the statute but cant find it anywhere. everyone keeps saying that however .....
 
panhead

panhead

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Its odd that the ones who have the highest ideals on this issue are also the largest group who wish for secrecy,i hide nothing.

If your doing it right (lawfully) then theres no need for secrecy,i wonder how many caregivers actualy claim all income on their taxes in truthfull amounts ? We do.

I dont know who all here runs operations out of their home but i do not,i have a bldg that requires maintainance,insurance,taxes,security monitoring,obvious overhead like utilities & supply's,2 part time employees as contractors,accounting costs,tax preparition,all the things that other laws require, not to mention paying tax on every last dollar brought in,we could withstand an IRS audit but i'd be willing to bet not many others could.

If your not doing anything wrong then why the need for secrecy ?
 
rzza

rzza

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thats article is cute cruz but it doesnt defend your point that "It is against the law to profit from the sales of marijuana no matter who you are or what state you live in."

i wanna see something in the michigan statute stating that i as a caregiver cannot profit or receive money for meds.

since you cannot offer me proof then i will offer you this which comes directly from the michigan legislature....
"A registered primary caregiver may receive compensation for costs associated with assisting a registered qualifying patient in the medical use of marihuana. Any such compensation shall not constitute the sale of controlled substances."
 
stumpjumper

stumpjumper

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cruzer101 said:
It is against the law to profit from the sales of marijuana no matter who you are or what state you live in.
All you guys who are posting about your business model and how much you get per oz, ever thought of that?
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I just heard the buzzer buzz "WRONG".. Bzzzzzzzz!!!!
 
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cruzer101

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Buzzer, Ha, good one. I didn't like it any more than you did but it's right there in black and white.

Maybe I don't understand it correctly but seems to me people who have sold to the despensires and claimed it on there taxes have admitted to the federal government they are selling a controlled substance and provided an easy way to find them.

"Persons who are in the business of cultivating, selling or distributing marijuana, and those who knowingly facilitate such activities, are in violation of the Controlled Substances Act, regardless of state law,"

I'm in California and I haven't read Michigan's laws but I assume they are similar to California prop 215 that states:

"A primary caregiver is a person who consistently assumes the responsibility for the housing, health or safety of the applicant (patient). This may be an individual or the owner, operator or employee of an appropriately licensed clinic, facility, hospice, or home health agency. As a primary caregiver you cannot apply for a card for yourself. Your patient must apply for you."

The key word is consistently, the way I see it is that means a care giver must really take care of someone to grow for them.

Even if I am wrong or your state has different qualifications for a caregiver it is still against the controlled substance act. I thought I was a legal caregiver. I have know the patient for 30 years (old flame) helped her out financially several times, had a document signed as well but now realize that wouldn't hold up in a court of law so I only provide for myself.

I guess what I'm saying is once you post on a forum its there for anyone to see. Use your head. Better safe then sorry.
 
rzza

rzza

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no we (michigan) modeled ours off yours and didnt make it that way whatsoever.

and like my link stated, ours actually allows for compensation. straight up, no loop hole required. no DONATIONS AND ROSES =)
 
Metropolis

Metropolis

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I'm Just fine & Not Poking my lips out. I support my own for my mother, my sister, & myself, All Certified, They get meds on the regular and for free. Had I called and asked them I could have got money for insecticides or neem. My problem isn't with my current situation, but rather the messages and statements from patients seeking a caregiver. It's Ridiculous for people to always look for a handout. However, the best response I heard was pertaining to the business model. So if you have nothing nice to say, move along with it.


abudtokr said:
Hey I would love to change and help out... But this means I get half of my 12 plants then. I guess I will help you out with the math...... You got 12 of my plants, now lets say you grow all 12 and you get 2.5 oz off each plant it takes you 3.5 months..... Now you wanna sell it for lets say $300 each oz. 300x2.5=750 of each plant. 750x12=$9000. Now you wanna count the cost of shit added in.... You have to buy your lights ONE time so get some good ones.... Lets say you get a 1000 watt mh and hps $800 dollars for the both of them. Get some dirt, nutes, and pots, seeds. lets say 1000 dollars. Im going high on this so you get my point. OH dont forget your 800 dollar electric bill...... Thats a profit of 6400 dollars.... I work my ass off every day to make 500 bucks a week. All you have to do is sit home and smoke. Your acting like you dont have fun doing it, you want to pray off the sick to fatten your pockets and thats not that this program was destined to do. I love growing marijuana its fun you get to learn get high. Anyway you will make over 26,000 a year for sitting home. While other people have to do real work for a living! Not sit home and grow marijuana and bitch about a power bill.... You should have your card pulled and fined! Your acting like a drug dealer.... Thats another thing you forgot people did this shit way b4 it was legal and no one bitched about the small shit. Its called over head. It cost money to make money. IF you wouldn't smoke your profit then you might have money. SO QUIT CRYING! Your a grown adult you look foolisth with your lip sticking out like that!
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hic

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I told ya about the overhead issue 5 fucking pages ago and you told me to go fuck myself! I wonder if you have a mental condition?

If it is a mental issue you suffer with please let me know, so that I may think that it is not your fault for what you say on here.
 
Buddy Ganga

Buddy Ganga

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Metropolis said:
Honestly, every one wants free stuff and I got to buy more equipment to produce more quality meds, I'll be looking for patients that will invest time and money into the operation. Other than that, there is not benefit in having more patients.

I was broke as hell last week, and I discovered spider mites!

Neither of my patients had money to help me out but their hands were out when I told them I harvested early.

Not to Mention, the hours and hours of TRIMMING! Would it be wrong to just give them branches fresh out the pot?

Fucking DTE running this "ACTUAL READING BULLCRAP" $800 for 3 months, & I have already been paying $278 a month.

The next patient that ask me what can I do for them?.... The answer is I can charge you to come to your house and Set up your 12 plants, and I'll come by every other day to check on them & even teach you how to care for them yourself, unless you are handicap or disabled then I can make an exception.

Your grow will be as good as your initial investment, if you can only afford 400's you'll have a 400 crop, I bought my own lights, fans, bubblers, nutrients, soil, etc. You paid a certification fee to be my patient and now you looking for free meds, and after your Oz a month, I don't hear from you....

& the authorities make it hard to hook up with other caregivers, or patients to make some donations to keep our operations up to "PAR"
The Dispensary can kiss my arse, $200 & I gotta wait until after you sell it!
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CareTaker Seeking patients to finance my grow.

I am only going to grow the best strains at top dollar prices.
I'm a very expensive grower and only the best will do.
I just know I could be good at it if you would only give me a shot, and some money to make it happen.
I've read two books, have a profile on RIU and watched many youtube video's.



I'm one of the many reasons/caregivers out there making it hard on wanna be growers like you. And I'm damned proud of it.
My patients sought me out due to my repeated quality and ability to maximize harvests.
"I offered them" a no cost ounce a month for the first couple of cycles, when their plants are maturing and in the regular rotation they get up to 2 oz of no cost meds "a month". I even went out and bought bubble bags because a patient requested some hash rather then bud. Talk about breaking the bank.. LMAO!

I know how to grow, and grow my own so adding a few more plants to the crop cost mere pennies.
The more plants the more clones. (cost recovery)
The more plants at harvest means more trimmings. (hash, butters,oils, aka cost recovery)
The more plants harvested means more roots and stalks. (Balms and tincters, aka cost recovery)
Do I dare mention caregiver to caregiver transfers.. (cost recovery)

But yea, lets find a way/reason/excuse to milk the people asking me for help and offering me their plant count.
Bite the hands that feed me.

If you want subsidies get into the oil business.
 
Buddy Ganga

Buddy Ganga

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stumpjumper said:
You can't grow nothing like me because it's rocket science.
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Bet.

I use dust from a church for my medium.
Injured baby bird tears for my nutes
and a key chain lazer pointer for light
I get 16.3 pounds per plant
And grow in Dixie cups.

And I do it all in a shoe box.
And harvest every 6 hours.


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