to flush not to flush and if so when to start

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Says the guy who pretends to be an authority on what conventional wisdom is and uses HT and DJ for credibility by proxy...

It's a discussion forum where people come for help. If you see someone post something you know is not good advice I can only hope you can ignore the little bitch attitude from people like yourself and go ahead and post anyway.

And I used that Mel Frank article because you referenced HT... plenty of more reliable research on the matter. Don't need to be a scientists to understand. The truth is no more complex than the false info you posted in the first place.
 
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Here is a pretty detailed article about flushing on High Times. I also use Biobizz and according to them you should flush as well. I have personally done both, but the one where I didn't flush was jacked, so I can't give a good report. I am about to harvest my best grow to date ao I could tell you something about the smoke next week. http://www.hightimes.com/read/key-points-harvest-time
 
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In that same article I find it interesting that they recommend not waiting until trichs start to turn Amber. Most of what I read says you want maybe 80/20 cloudy/Amber ratio.
 
hellmutt bones

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Dude make sure the trics are mostly clowdy and start a week of flush.. belive me u can tell the diffrence.. the unflushed one burns ur throat.. the flushed one smooth like eucaliptus.
belive us flush!!
 
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Seconded.

I use a basic three part hydro nute system in my soil (and hydro) grows, and after having done side-by-side grows flushing and no flushing, I notice no difference whatsoever in taste or appearance of my bud.

Not flushing makes it much simpler on a perpetual grow, where all my watering is automatic.

-spek
 
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Well theres some good flushing agents that ive noticed that makethe buds tast very, very good! And u can tell the diffrence.
Everyone that smoked the one with the flushing product vs the water only flush could tell the diffrence!
 
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Grojak

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The "mother nature does not flush" argument is getting old…. you're not following mother natures plan unless you're growing 100% natural organic in the ground (bat shit, worm castings ect..)

Mother nature does not use man mad (synthetic or organic) nutes so this argument is bunk. The nutes that 95% of growers use cause salt buildup and nutes remain in the medium and ppm on run off can get crazy, do non flushers ever check their run off? If you're 3 weeks from finish and your run off is 2k ppm and up not flushing ain't going to help anything you need to get that down low I water just ph'd water every other watering (though I've found a couple strains that don't dig that method, fixing that next time i run them) doing so keeps my run off ppm low and I just water with ph'd water for the last 2 weeks, no flush just normal watering. If you're watering every time with fert (and don't have a way to check your PPM) I would at least water with ph'd water the last week or 2 and if your ppm is way up there like I mentioned before… I'd do a flush at 2 weeks (run multiple gallons, if you're in 5gal pots use 5gal water is a safe bet) than just water with ph'd water as needed.
 
TheYokel

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I have one question.

We are a community of growers. We have hundreds of people for actual growroom evidence.

Why do you people keep quoting High Times like some kind of authority instead of seeing what works for actual growers around you?

I haven't considered High Times a credible grow-source for quite a while now. They are more political these days.
 
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nope smart people just feed only carbs for the last 2 to 4 weeks

The sugar gets broken down by microbes and makes your medium almost ready for a new plant after you pull all the roots out of it
 
Grojak

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TheYokel said:
I have one question.

We are a community of growers. We have hundreds of people for actual growroom evidence.

Why do you people keep quoting High Times like some kind of authority instead of seeing what works for actual growers around you?

I haven't considered High Times a credible grow-source for quite a while now. They are more political these days.
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I've not bought a high times in 4 years…. and after 1 high times cup I was done!! The high times crowd are the same folks in high school that had to dress alike talk alike do everything "cool" that their friends did… high times is just a trendy marketing magazine with a few haphazard articles from folks like Subcool which again is just more marketing.
 
unwine99

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Sativied said:
Says the guy who pretends to be an authority on what conventional wisdom is and uses HT and DJ for credibility by proxy...

It's a discussion forum where people come for help. If you see someone post something you know is not good advice I can only hope you can ignore the little bitch attitude from people like yourself and go ahead and post anyway.

And I used that Mel Frank article because you referenced HT... plenty of more reliable research on the matter. Don't need to be a scientists to understand. The truth is no more complex than the false info you posted in the first place.
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The only little bitch I've seen today is some cat splitting hairs over chemicals and degradation. You come at someone like a bitch and you'll get treated like a bitch -- straight up. Now, as far as conventional wisdom is concerned, I wouldn't call an online footprint of 3,600 messages conventional nor would I call having to look up scientific case studies and obscure articles to make a point "conventional"-- I call that living in a bubble -- and there's nothing wrong with that -- but it's not conventional. The information that circulates among experienced growers in growing communities who've been growing for years and years, and who "read up" when they can-- that's conventional to me -- the information from the first 10 sites on a google search is conventional to me. So one more time if you didn't get it the first two, make your case to someone a little more important.
 
hellmutt bones

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All i can think of is the ppl saying not to flush are trying to fuq up ur grow.. most ppl here are using syntetic nutes and ar doing in door grows so there is nothing natural about what ur doing.
So the mother nature stuff dosent apply
 
Triplec

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hellmutt bones said:
All i can think of is the ppl saying not to flush are trying to fuq up ur grow.. most ppl here are using syntetic nutes and ar doing in door grows so there is nothing natural about what ur doing.
So the mother nature stuff dosent apply
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I try to stay all organic using BioBizz. I use the whole line of products. I also lower my PH with apple cider vinegar to avoid using ph up/down. It works great. But even then the manufacturer still says the flush so I am putting some trust in them know what the fuck they are talking about. Lol
 
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The only little bitch I've seen today is some cat splitting hairs over chemicals and degradation. You come at someone like a bitch and you'll get treated like a bitch -- straight up.
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Motherfucker... that's my line little bitch. :lol:

I merely posted that what you claim is not conventional wisdom and is actually bad advice. It's you who resorted to being a little bitch when not only I but one of your own references turned out to disagree with you. And it's me who deals with little bitches like you all the time. You're such a cliche and will fit in nicely here.... parrot -> denial -> ad hominem -> reflecting -> being a little insecure bitch who's ego got hurt. Just another day at rollitup...

What ever tantrum you feel like throwing, it's not going to turn a common misconception into fact because you choose to be an ignorant fucktard.
 
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