Too much breeding????

I started this thread to get some insight on this whole breeding thing, genetics, and so on. Lately Ive seen so many strains that are crossed like 9 times (over exageration of course) but for example a guy in the seed and strain review forum says he bred his own and it was "double dipped sour banana x super strawberry diesel." (not knocking that guy just using him as an example)
My point is at what point are you diminishing the great genetics of the strain. Even some of the online breeders seem to be breeding things 9 times, like thai x white widow x diesel x you get the point.
Are we reducing potenatcy in already phenominal strains by breeding too many times, or is it ok to this. Im not making accusations, Im actually asking. Anyone have any opinions or facts on this. Its just so hard to find a SOLID strain these days that I think maybe there is too many strains being bred into each other

I would think its the opposite. instead of getting crappy plants, i think we are getting super plants. if done correctly these plants are crossed with the best of the best. meaning there childern are even better. you get the point.

For sure! and thx for your response. I took that into consideration as well, but sometimes I just wonder if breeders take the time to find the best genetics and breed them or if they just breed ANYTHING. I guess I just look at it like a blood line. If you take a pure bread anything and breed it into a non purebread, your fucking off the blood line. Wouldnt it work the same with plant genetics

that is a very good question. I am a newcomer to growing mj but I am a farmer. So I will relate this to something I know. Corn for example. Thousands of years ago it was a small plant that produced a tiny tiny cob. Through the years the biggest plants were bred together to make the super crop we have today that produces huge plants.
And......now I am high and kinda forgot where I was going with this.
Anyways breeding great strains with other great strains in my opinion is a good thing. But inferior genetics should not be involved.
And I'm spent....

I think reputable breeders are only using the best of the best when breeding. Plant dna is a little different than doggy dna. Breeding gets a little tricky to explain at this point. there are some really good reads on advanced breeding within this forum. you should check out the faq it might have some stuff on this in there.

have u ever had dogs? well then u would know pure breeds have alot alot of problems and muts never seem to have them, i'm think pretty same to mj

well i know this might not be the same but they charge millions of dollars to get pure blood lines in race horses. they try their hardest to get huge ass heads on pit bulls. but then again if you inbreed a dog too many times he comes out a little "special" so who knows. its all a guessing game. but why dont you get 2 strains that you love and know come from strong blood lines and cross them yourself just for your own use. this is what is so fun about this whole thing. i wish it was legal because i fucking love growing weed. it soooo fun. to watch the plants and haw they are all from the same batch and genes but they are all so different...but grab a couple you love and let a male sneak through in a completly isolated place and grab some pollen off of him and pollenate like 3 budsites on a girl and keep her seperate for a while and grow her seeds and see if you like the smoke. but i do know this, if it wasnt for sheer human curiosty we wouldn't half the shit we have. i know all the weed in the 60's was shitty seedy outdoor grown bad smoke. and look at where we are at now. so maybe breeding isn't such a bad thing...

I have a pure bread golden retriever, second one actually. Both healthy compared to the muts I used to have. I dont so much know that pure breads have too much health issues, but hey I also dont know it all. Aside from dogs, all the above posted makes sense. I didnt have much to do today and was pondering this in my head and thought I share with you guys. It makes sense though. I just found it crazy that some people were breading strains literally 5 or even 6 times. I just look at it as somewhere along the line, the genetics change and not always for the good. But Im a newb when it comes to breeding so thx for your replies

maybe they really like phenos from that particular strain and back cross it to get that desired trait

It can go either way.

When you cross a whole bunch of things together in a few generations you don't get predictable results. There's nothing wrong with that so long as you recognize the potential problems.

A stable strain is one that generation after generation will produce essentially the same phenotype, where seeds collected from hybrids could express anything from either parent, both, or seemingly neither.


Who knows what all is possible from MJ? There could be countless possible genetic combinations with favorable traits that have not yet been unlocked.


It's like with the heritage vs. hybrid vegetable thing. Neither is really right or wrong, they each have strengths and weaknesses.

If you grow from clones off a mother plant, the stability of the strain isn't particularly important. You just need to find the right pheno and then duplicate it.


So in my opinion the only downside of crossing strains is when it isn't done scientifically. Just think how much it would suck if someone produced some uber weed... autoflowering 3 footer that'd yield a pound off one CFL with 50% THC (exaggerating but you get the idea). But then he couldn't remember exactly what genetics went into getting that plant so we couldn't recreate the strain.

i always thought that when you crossed it multiple times it changed the sativa/indica count accourdingly therfore changin the taste and look. yes we are changing there genetics but its like everyone else said it can go either way..some strains are more resilliant than others, some grow bushier, some grow taller. to quote a hero of mine lol, "lifes like a box of chocolates...." you never know how your next strains gonna turn out

dont forget that your super bud is blue on one level, then purple, then white, then red on top, lets start breeding the super pot plant!!

just let the plants have sex

your seed harvest will be amazing, and just for a piece of mind have a separate grow of your favorite clones, nuff said.