Top dressing again?

charface

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Hey guys I have another question.
First the pertinent info.

The strain runs 9 weeks of flower.
Grown it many times.

I transplanted clones from
1 gl pots to 5gl

Ffof with About 1/3 worm castings
Added pearlite.

Roughly 2 wks later I switched to flower.

three or so weeks later after stretch.
I top dressed by
Removing the top few inches of soil and adding
fresh worm castings and
blackjack bloom plant food 3-5-5

The blackjack lists.
feather meal, steamed bonemeal
potassium sulphate.

I have added no additional nutes so far other than a few ml cal/mag to
my water per gl

Based on a harvest date of june 11
Do I have time to top dress again?
If so should I do it at full recomended dose or cut it back.

Ill try to sum it up below.

they were in ffof w extra castings
5 weeks (2were veg)

Top dressed 2 weeks ago and they look good still

So with roughly a month left should I top dress again?

If I do I think I better do it asap.

Your thoughts?
 

st0wandgrow

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I run my own soil mix in 7 gal containers, and I top dress one time at the end of week 3 flower for a 9 week strain. Apx 1/4 cup of an all purpose/alfalfa meal/kelp meal mix per container covered with ewc. Your container is a tad smaller than mine, but either way you should be fine imo.
 

charface

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I run my own soil mix in 7 gal containers, and I top dress one time at the end of week 3 flower for a 9 week strain. Apx 1/4 cup of an all purpose/alfalfa meal/kelp meal mix per container covered with ewc. Your container is a tad smaller than mine, but either way you should be fine imo.
Cool.
I might just ride it out n see how it goes.
 

CannaCole

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I top dressed my 3 gal airpots 2 weeks into flower because I vegged so long for main-lining. They took off! This is my first go organic.

I read somewhere if you top dress it takes about 10 days for plant to start feeding off it?

Def nice not dealing with nutes and water. God damn slave to them when I was running DWC.
 

nova1992

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I have a question about top dressing, if you guys dont mind :p
How can we top dress raw nutes without burning the plants?
I thought we had to cook everything that was raw?
Is it because we are dressing above the root zone?
If anyone wants to link me some reading material or explain, i would be so happy!
Also, how long is it before a tea will kick in?
A few days?

Thanks :)
Hope this isnt thread jacking, its the same subject!
 

charface

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Went ahead and threw about 1/4 cup high n guano
n 3 cups of castings.
I noticed they were yellowing so I figured it was time.
 

Adrosmokin

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I just top dressed my plant at the '21 day since flip' mark. Went with 1/4 cup of the following: Kelp Meal, High N Guano, Oyster Shell, Gypsum and Jobe's Organic 4-4-4 (Bone Meal, Feather Meal, Sulfate of Potash etc.). Mixed it all together and then topdressed with around 2-3 Tbsp. per gallon. (It's in a one gallon pot.) Will let you know how she likes it.

Edited: Also, on top of the top dress, I added some soil and worm castings.
 
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mckenzie41

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Would it not be better to make a tea with all the ingredients you use to top dress the microbes are what feeds your plants not the raw ingredients,
Its something worth thinking about,
Peace, Ben
 

mckenzie41

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I wouldn't be keen on guano either i don't like the idea of using animal byproducts purely due to pathogens, I will never use no fish products as the sea is highly contaminated and depending on where the fish came from it could be radioactive and contain high levels of cesium 137, tritium and god noes whatever else from 60 years of atomic energy / weapons / uranium mining. And no im not a vegan environmentalist lol.

I got into organics for the fact that i can control what goes in on every level our world has been seriously contaminated by salt based fertilizers why does modern science always come up with synthetic chemicals / medicines / materials which destroy nature as opposed to the natural alternatives, that are actually better by far.

My first organic grow was a auto pineapple express winch i grew using purely the bio canna line withe there bio soil and the taste was amazing i didn't like PE until i had it organic i was sold it stank more the stone was stronger and the yield was okay for an auto i got 25g i thought i would end up with 10 - 15 g as it was a tiny plant but it packed some nice colas

Ill never grow anything with salt based chilated neuts.

Peace Ben
 

nova1992

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I wouldn't be keen on guano either i don't like the idea of using animal byproducts purely due to pathogens, I will never use no fish products as the sea is highly contaminated and depending on where the fish came from it could be radioactive and contain high levels of cesium 137, tritium and god noes whatever else from 60 years of atomic energy / weapons / uranium mining. And no im not a vegan environmentalist lol.
Soooooo true. Our world is mutating and dying, its disgusting.
 

mckenzie41

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I was growing when fukashima blew and i noticed mutations in the leaves and calyx the calyx on the stems had a crystaly deformed leave curled over as i to protect the calyx and future seeds the upper leaves where not serrated any more and curled up i had to chop the lot and start with fresh cuttings fukashima + solar maximum we had a lot o x class flares that year also.
 

nova1992

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I was growing when fukashima blew and i noticed mutations in the leaves and calyx the calyx on the stems had a crystaly deformed leave curled over as i to protect the calyx and future seeds the upper leaves where not serrated any more and curled up i had to chop the lot and start with fresh cuttings fukashima + solar maximum we had a lot o x class flares that year also.
Where are you located? Japan? o_O
 

mckenzie41

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LOL nope lets just say the jet stream has been kindly dropping some of the particles from fukashima not to mention the acid rain which is loaded with hot particles the whole northern hemisphere is radiated. the US and northern Europe have higher radiatrion levels than most of japan. the reactor is positioned on the east coast where all the radioactive material is being carried east through the sea and through the wind. this is why in cali they are experiencing large amounts of fish whales etc washing up on the beaches. they normally have bleeding at the eyes.

I have to say that was the first and last mutation I have ever seen in my plants.
 

nova1992

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LOL nope lets just say the jet stream has been kindly dropping some of the particles from fukashima not to mention the acid rain which is loaded with hot particles the whole northern hemisphere is radiated. the US and northern Europe have higher radiatrion levels than most of japan. the reactor is positioned on the east coast where all the radioactive material is being carried east through the sea and through the wind. this is why in cali they are experiencing large amounts of fish whales etc washing up on the beaches. they normally have bleeding at the eyes.

I have to say that was the first and last mutation I have ever seen in my plants.
Yeah after my post i went and read about fukashima, its still leaking in places, the sea water is still soaking into the sea... I told my parents, they are ignorant and laughed at me. Thats why the world is the way it is, because we have people like my parents who dont even believe... Its sick. I hope i dont have mutated kids or something... Or get cancer.. I live in vancouver, canada, close to the water @_@
Im not eating any more fish, lobster, seaweed etc from the ocean.
Probably wont really matter though because like you said, its in the rain etc

Lol good luck! Apocalypse is soon
 

mckenzie41

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The fish seem to be having a particularly bad time especially tuna as its digesting radiation from the water plus all its prey feed on plankton etc which all adds to the total levels of radiation in the fish I love fish aswel.
 

mckenzie41

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We gone a bit of topic lol but there is some really shocking things I found out also synthetic neuts contain soft rock phosphate which is radioactive studies show that tobacco grown with synthetic neuts causes lung cancer compared to the tobacco which was grown before the synthetic revolution in the early 1900's. Radiation destroys cells in our body and plants anything living really, once these cells die candida fungus grows but only if our body's acidic in pH and this fungus then becomes cancer, everyone has a pH meter test your drinks you would be supprised I like Dr pepper but it has a pH of 3.8 most people are probably I'll purely because there nutrients are being locked out and there gut bacteria isn't breaking down the nutrients as the pH range is killing them off, allowing bad bacteria to grow. I'd call it the body web and they no about as much about it as the soil web lol.
 

charface

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I don't know if what you are saying is correct but it is an interesting concept.
could I oh up my Pepsi? :-D
 
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