top shelf genetics
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LILBSDAD
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Most of the more experienced members are going to say figure it out on your own like they had to do. Everyone has different tastes and there are reviews on almost every strain out there. Do some research and come to your own conclusions. You have 5 posts yet want to know what the top shelf seeds are and where to get them? Do you want me to go to work every day for you too?
keepitcoastal
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lol the guy i was responding to got deleted.... start clone hunting in your area and youll be bound to find something above average or tga seems to be pretty solid
GUN1
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I didn't realize it was a secret society. I'm just looking for a nudge in the right direction. I know how genetics work and want to start my own projects. If you aren't willing to help then don't post. I'm looking at bodhi and gage at the moment. I am not in the position to purchase new genetics very often so if I do an order it will be a once off so I don't want to be stuck with seed that aren't what they are hyped up to be.
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
here's a spot a lot of us like to order from.. 
http://www.cannazon.com/ bodhi, gage green, kingdom organic seeds, dank house, sure fire, and soon to be the frost brothers... all very solid smaller breeders who carry the fire 
oh yah, ogr is supposed to start vending there shortly as well..
the canna collective is another spot as well..
http://www.cannazon.com/ bodhi, gage green, kingdom organic seeds, dank house, sure fire, and soon to be the frost brothers... all very solid smaller breeders who carry the fire oh yah, ogr is supposed to start vending there shortly as well..the canna collective is another spot as well..
wheezer
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Your on the right track......Connoisuer Genetics has been very good to me as well.
Genetica ARE very important, yes, if you suck at growing it doesn't matter how good your genes are, but it doesn't matter how good you are, if the genes suck, the weeds gonna suck. to say genetics don't matter is just not true. Stay away from Greenhouse, Barneys, and others that mostly deal in fems, and you should be fine.
LILBSDAD
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My apologies for coming off like that. Yes you are headed in the right direction with those two breeders, problem is getting what you want from them. As racer pointed out cannazon is a great place to order and are doing a special for first time buyers. You did not say if you were looking for Indica, Sativa, hybrids, or what flavors you are looking for. That would also help a lot. Best of luck to you
kermit2692
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one tip i cant express enough... top shelf does not necesarily mean top dollar, ive been happier many times with cheaper strains than with others that costed 80 bucks or so...idk if you have access to clones but seems their are alot of good clone only strains out there ...idk if i trust rare darkness or gage green, seems like alot of ppl throw the names out but you cant really find much info on them and gage green was appearently a seperation from a company called rize that everyone had problems with so im weary to try them....anyone have personal experience to go against that?? personally ive had good results from paradise and white label about to give tga a try next as ive heard nothing but good things for the most part
sickboy949
Member
i disagree w you vilify 
you have to have good genetics first and know how to master the strain second.
you could be a master grower and have shitty genetics and you cant manipulate dirt bud into the fire. just imo
vilify
you have to have good genetics first and know how to master the strain second. you could be a master grower and have shitty genetics and you cant manipulate dirt bud into the fire. just imovilify
sickboy949
Member
couldnt agree more w you wheezer
hazey grapes
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jack's cleaner 2 - TGA: genuine trippy fun that's BETTER than it's description. as good as real california columbian gold if not better. i never blazed it hard but it had a lot of sensory effects like being touchy feely. i can see why everyone loves TGA gear. i want to try agent orange and A13 vortex next, but stoners love their jillybeans (~$10 ea regulars)
haze x skunk - high quality seeds: super potent clear high with just a bit of lead eye. very motivational. good for tuning pain out & dieting. has enough psychoactivity that it likes music & dancing & movies with decent euphoria levels. not a favorite in the flavor department, but it's a reasonably low odor and flavor strain. blunt lovers would dig it. the buzz stays clean and is long lasting. it doesn't turn into a nothing but stone wreck you need a vacation from every month like gold. it's the most potent high i've ever had and great for long term blazing. it actually builds up in your system leaving you permabuzzed after a month. you DON'T want to show off and clear 4 tall chambers of this though. respect it's limits ($28!)
sweet haze - DNA genetics: i've tried a bunch of similar fruity jacks & hazes that are all great and way better than street beasters, but this one is a clear couple notches higher than the rest. the buds are super sticky. it stretches but like JC2 only takes 9 weeks. super fruity and potent high i actually noted some psychoactivity from where most strains are clear headed and motivational with euphoria. until i find another haze that's better, this one is my favorite ($11 fems)
sativa trans-love - john sinclair: this is closer to indoor thai than joey weed's great motivational cindy phenos and a prodigous resin machine. it's supposed to flower 70-75 days, but i tell you, this thing flowered faster than everything other than a kush skunk lowryder & that includes stony, but delicious sour cream. it had more of a typical fruity haze taste and high, but in just 30 days of flowering, i had a nice flat top of sticky fun bud where some strains were just waking up. if some extra trippiness could be worked into it and the flowering sped up or at least boosted with a 9 week strain like sweet haze or JC2, this could be world class. this is what i'll put on the side lines for snacking while waiting for the 12 week goods. even more amazing than how much bud & sticky resin it made in just a month of flowering was that it was putting a lot of energy into making seeds. great buzz, buds like popcorn on a hot griddle, nice haze fruitiness. it's a good match for joey weed's fruity cinderella phenos that take just 45 days too. it's like a white widow of hazes. yeah. ($55)
8 miles high - mandala: has a really cool haze type buzz, but with nice psychoactivity, that's notable for a really cool totally neutral energy profile with no stone or raciness where some strains can have both. the only other way i can think to describe it is that it's a clean high. it has really nice body control that's great for sports and it loves music & dancing. great playful euphoria that's nice too. it's just a super well behaved fun strain that's great for sipping but that's not going to beat you down in just one woofing bong hit. it just does everything right and is my favorite 24/7 strain. get busy on it or chill out. it's all good. the strain just wants to nudge you into something funner than whatever it was you weren't doing before. satori is supposed to be much more potent and mandala's best high. i want to try it, but i love 8 miles high just fine too. it's a nice mellow high that's better for twitchy people that shouldn't be messing with trippy & racy strains. it does everything so just right it should be called goldilocks. ($40 when it comes back next year)
masterkush - black label seeds: a cheap & compact auto-flowering kush skunk that's more mid than stony with nice euphoria. it's a better than average strain for having low stone in an otherwise total cash cropping plant. it can't be cloned, but it's great for breeding. i got a blonde pheno, 3 greens and one cool deep intense burgundy pheno that all had similar buzzes. in no more than 60 days from seed, i had awesome miniature plants with a lot of bud for their size & speed. it has a little odor, but i got by without a filter with it. cabinet growers would really love it. i like no couchlock at all, but this strain is perfect for trying to shrink & speed up big plants without adding much afghani stink and KO. i imagine NL5 & auto AK-47s etc. to be stonier. it might be feminized too. i don't remember seeing males. i like it better than the stonier fare on the streets even if it's not a favorite, but i'll keep some around for variety as well as tinker with breeding it into something. i'm liking the idea of breeding the red into buddha's sister and possibly taking some stone from that for breeding with something like trippy lemon JC2. an indica an old school snob can respect is high praise. ($28! i think it's a sister company to high quality seeds like sativa seeds is to nirvana)
Lemon Skunk - DNA Genetics: skunk #1 isn't my favorite strain, but as far as they go, this one is NICE! it has a classy golden glow, isn't actually skunky and the high wasn't that stony. it's a really nice true mid. ($13 fems)
Sour Cream - DNA Genetics: everything i've tried by them is better than average. sour cream's light stone is too much for me, but that flavor is very classy & delicious compensation. it has a little odor, but you won't smell it 3 blocks away. from what i've seen DNA really are the top breeders raved about in cannabible. if i can get the stone turned down, i'd like to pass this flavor on in my tinkering.
Durban Poison: i don't know what breeder has the best DP, but it's a really interesting strain for fans of getting high that was hugely popular in a favorite sativas thread. it's not as trippy or potent as it's rep and is more like a typical watered down haze, but that black licorice taste is something else. it's disgusting to me and expansive hits of this induce dry heaves, but that's why it's called poison i guess. it's just that the flavor is so authentic. huge novelty factor and an eye opener to anyone that's never had anything but afghanis.
Kali Mist - Serious Seeds: this is a really slow strain that takes 17 weeks to finish and it's spicy fruity flavor might still be too much for some (i love spicy food, but the original version's crushed red pepper taste was at least as hot as a jalapeno). KM's claim to fame is how clear headed and speedy it is. it's hard to sit still on this. it's not trippy really and is too racy for chilling with tunes like more neutral to stony trippy strains are more relaxed. it has off the charts euphoria and is a lot like a good shroom trip with 10 cups of coffee motivation without the jitters. it's a very specific buzz you don't want to blaze before bed time, but if you hate doing something you have to, blaze some KM and you'll power through it humming "don't worry, be happy". awesome date potential for creating giddy happy energy asap. textbook C99 has a similar though less energetic buzz, but finishes in just 55 days or less depending on the pheno you get. trippier and more mellow buzzes are funner more of the time, but are way more likely to complain about doing something you don't want to than "it's all good" KM. they are the original breeders of hugely popular "one hit wonder" AK-47. ($100 not cheap, but not same old same old either)
Onyx - Short Stuff: diesels are very popular. i don't get it. they're disgusting and un-natural to me. if you like them though, this strain has an awesome buzz. it has nice warm euphoria and a lightly motivational up THC profile that is excellent and most notable for how touchy feely it is. i'd never experienced that effect before. i can only complain about the taste of this strain. the high is extra special otherwise and i'll give the strain grudging respect for that. if you're a gearhead who digs garage smells, then you'll love this strain.
Apollo 11 Genius Pheno - Bodhi: i haven't actually tried this, but have had C99 where half of this comes from and like that just fine, but the mellower & trippier genius strain used to make A11 sounds funner for 24/7 whatever where C99 is more clearheaded and businesslike with euphoria. this genius leaning strain, when it comes back, should be some nice trippy fun in under 60 days. there's a reason everyone was saying A11 & super silver haze are the best "indoor thais". all reports i've read say bodhi is a legit breeder that does nice selection & quality control too. it's definitely a strain that should be preserved. i doubt my 75% C99 25% A11 crosses aren't anywhere near this fun to blaze. maybe TGA's A13 vortex is a good substitute. (UNOBTANIUM)
i'm liking the sound of A13 vortex. it sounds like a nice euphoric "mid" strain along the lines of apollo 13 with a nice flowering time. if the breeder of my favorite strain, JC2, says it's the best indoor strain, it can't suck. i'd like to get a strain that's more neutral or even having a very light stone that's euphoric & anti-anxiety like 8 miles high, but in a faster plant. i'm sure something in the line is just right.
if extra-stinky indicas are your thing, you might like Hashberry or White Castle on the cheap front.
haze x skunk - high quality seeds: super potent clear high with just a bit of lead eye. very motivational. good for tuning pain out & dieting. has enough psychoactivity that it likes music & dancing & movies with decent euphoria levels. not a favorite in the flavor department, but it's a reasonably low odor and flavor strain. blunt lovers would dig it. the buzz stays clean and is long lasting. it doesn't turn into a nothing but stone wreck you need a vacation from every month like gold. it's the most potent high i've ever had and great for long term blazing. it actually builds up in your system leaving you permabuzzed after a month. you DON'T want to show off and clear 4 tall chambers of this though. respect it's limits ($28!)
sweet haze - DNA genetics: i've tried a bunch of similar fruity jacks & hazes that are all great and way better than street beasters, but this one is a clear couple notches higher than the rest. the buds are super sticky. it stretches but like JC2 only takes 9 weeks. super fruity and potent high i actually noted some psychoactivity from where most strains are clear headed and motivational with euphoria. until i find another haze that's better, this one is my favorite ($11 fems)
sativa trans-love - john sinclair: this is closer to indoor thai than joey weed's great motivational cindy phenos and a prodigous resin machine. it's supposed to flower 70-75 days, but i tell you, this thing flowered faster than everything other than a kush skunk lowryder & that includes stony, but delicious sour cream. it had more of a typical fruity haze taste and high, but in just 30 days of flowering, i had a nice flat top of sticky fun bud where some strains were just waking up. if some extra trippiness could be worked into it and the flowering sped up or at least boosted with a 9 week strain like sweet haze or JC2, this could be world class. this is what i'll put on the side lines for snacking while waiting for the 12 week goods. even more amazing than how much bud & sticky resin it made in just a month of flowering was that it was putting a lot of energy into making seeds. great buzz, buds like popcorn on a hot griddle, nice haze fruitiness. it's a good match for joey weed's fruity cinderella phenos that take just 45 days too. it's like a white widow of hazes. yeah. ($55)
8 miles high - mandala: has a really cool haze type buzz, but with nice psychoactivity, that's notable for a really cool totally neutral energy profile with no stone or raciness where some strains can have both. the only other way i can think to describe it is that it's a clean high. it has really nice body control that's great for sports and it loves music & dancing. great playful euphoria that's nice too. it's just a super well behaved fun strain that's great for sipping but that's not going to beat you down in just one woofing bong hit. it just does everything right and is my favorite 24/7 strain. get busy on it or chill out. it's all good. the strain just wants to nudge you into something funner than whatever it was you weren't doing before. satori is supposed to be much more potent and mandala's best high. i want to try it, but i love 8 miles high just fine too. it's a nice mellow high that's better for twitchy people that shouldn't be messing with trippy & racy strains. it does everything so just right it should be called goldilocks. ($40 when it comes back next year)
masterkush - black label seeds: a cheap & compact auto-flowering kush skunk that's more mid than stony with nice euphoria. it's a better than average strain for having low stone in an otherwise total cash cropping plant. it can't be cloned, but it's great for breeding. i got a blonde pheno, 3 greens and one cool deep intense burgundy pheno that all had similar buzzes. in no more than 60 days from seed, i had awesome miniature plants with a lot of bud for their size & speed. it has a little odor, but i got by without a filter with it. cabinet growers would really love it. i like no couchlock at all, but this strain is perfect for trying to shrink & speed up big plants without adding much afghani stink and KO. i imagine NL5 & auto AK-47s etc. to be stonier. it might be feminized too. i don't remember seeing males. i like it better than the stonier fare on the streets even if it's not a favorite, but i'll keep some around for variety as well as tinker with breeding it into something. i'm liking the idea of breeding the red into buddha's sister and possibly taking some stone from that for breeding with something like trippy lemon JC2. an indica an old school snob can respect is high praise. ($28! i think it's a sister company to high quality seeds like sativa seeds is to nirvana)
Lemon Skunk - DNA Genetics: skunk #1 isn't my favorite strain, but as far as they go, this one is NICE! it has a classy golden glow, isn't actually skunky and the high wasn't that stony. it's a really nice true mid. ($13 fems)
Sour Cream - DNA Genetics: everything i've tried by them is better than average. sour cream's light stone is too much for me, but that flavor is very classy & delicious compensation. it has a little odor, but you won't smell it 3 blocks away. from what i've seen DNA really are the top breeders raved about in cannabible. if i can get the stone turned down, i'd like to pass this flavor on in my tinkering.
Durban Poison: i don't know what breeder has the best DP, but it's a really interesting strain for fans of getting high that was hugely popular in a favorite sativas thread. it's not as trippy or potent as it's rep and is more like a typical watered down haze, but that black licorice taste is something else. it's disgusting to me and expansive hits of this induce dry heaves, but that's why it's called poison i guess. it's just that the flavor is so authentic. huge novelty factor and an eye opener to anyone that's never had anything but afghanis.
Kali Mist - Serious Seeds: this is a really slow strain that takes 17 weeks to finish and it's spicy fruity flavor might still be too much for some (i love spicy food, but the original version's crushed red pepper taste was at least as hot as a jalapeno). KM's claim to fame is how clear headed and speedy it is. it's hard to sit still on this. it's not trippy really and is too racy for chilling with tunes like more neutral to stony trippy strains are more relaxed. it has off the charts euphoria and is a lot like a good shroom trip with 10 cups of coffee motivation without the jitters. it's a very specific buzz you don't want to blaze before bed time, but if you hate doing something you have to, blaze some KM and you'll power through it humming "don't worry, be happy". awesome date potential for creating giddy happy energy asap. textbook C99 has a similar though less energetic buzz, but finishes in just 55 days or less depending on the pheno you get. trippier and more mellow buzzes are funner more of the time, but are way more likely to complain about doing something you don't want to than "it's all good" KM. they are the original breeders of hugely popular "one hit wonder" AK-47. ($100 not cheap, but not same old same old either)
Onyx - Short Stuff: diesels are very popular. i don't get it. they're disgusting and un-natural to me. if you like them though, this strain has an awesome buzz. it has nice warm euphoria and a lightly motivational up THC profile that is excellent and most notable for how touchy feely it is. i'd never experienced that effect before. i can only complain about the taste of this strain. the high is extra special otherwise and i'll give the strain grudging respect for that. if you're a gearhead who digs garage smells, then you'll love this strain.
Apollo 11 Genius Pheno - Bodhi: i haven't actually tried this, but have had C99 where half of this comes from and like that just fine, but the mellower & trippier genius strain used to make A11 sounds funner for 24/7 whatever where C99 is more clearheaded and businesslike with euphoria. this genius leaning strain, when it comes back, should be some nice trippy fun in under 60 days. there's a reason everyone was saying A11 & super silver haze are the best "indoor thais". all reports i've read say bodhi is a legit breeder that does nice selection & quality control too. it's definitely a strain that should be preserved. i doubt my 75% C99 25% A11 crosses aren't anywhere near this fun to blaze. maybe TGA's A13 vortex is a good substitute. (UNOBTANIUM)
i'm liking the sound of A13 vortex. it sounds like a nice euphoric "mid" strain along the lines of apollo 13 with a nice flowering time. if the breeder of my favorite strain, JC2, says it's the best indoor strain, it can't suck. i'd like to get a strain that's more neutral or even having a very light stone that's euphoric & anti-anxiety like 8 miles high, but in a faster plant. i'm sure something in the line is just right.
if extra-stinky indicas are your thing, you might like Hashberry or White Castle on the cheap front.
boneheadbob
Well-Known Member
Do yourself a favor and Ignore hazednuts and
Check out Sannie especially Eskobar and Peak seeds
http://www.sanniesshop.com/
http://www.peakseedsbc.com/seeds.htm
Check out Sannie especially Eskobar and Peak seeds
http://www.sanniesshop.com/
http://www.peakseedsbc.com/seeds.htm
Yep, ignore everything the mental patient hazey says. Fortunately he only is around a few weeks at a time before he goes back in to the nut house and you wont see him for a few months.
kermit2692
Well-Known Member
dude hazey stop posting fuckng page long stories on every damn post noone reads that shit its just annoying....
vilify
Well-Known Member
Ive never grown a seed that people said was dirt weed, no matter what it was.i disagree w you vilify
vilify
With the strain selection now, and with proper pheno selection, someone out there could think almost any strain to be top shelf.
Your definition and someone elses could be different. You may be going for getting as high as you can, where other people are going for relief from an illness.
crazyhazey
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sannie's herijuana, nuff said.
crazyhazey
Well-Known Member
also, top shelf is also determined by pheno as many will tell you, you can get bad phenos from good strains if your buying from an unreliable breeder. it also takes lots of care to grow top shelf, plan on giving them much attention and checking on them more than once a day.