Topdawg Genetics

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goldberg71b

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Well I'm still waiting on Jay to check his book?! But it's been 10 days. So for kicks I googled pony express delivery times. And ironically the answer was given in a 10 day period. Identical to the amount of time I've waited. So I sent this to Jay.

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This is a semi joke. But since I decided to google this for kicks. And it answers in a 10 day period the same amount of time since my order was shipped. I thought I'd share what I found.

More than 1,800 miles in 10 days! From St. Joseph, Missouri, to Sacramento, California the Pony Express could deliver a letter faster than ever before. In operation for only 18 months between April 1860 and October 1861, the Pony Express nevertheless has become synonymous with the Old West.


Do you think I made my point?
 
morgwar

morgwar

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goldberg71b said:
Well I'm still waiting on Jay to check his book?! But it's been 10 days. So for kicks I googled pony express delivery times. And ironically the answer was given in a 10 day period. Identical to the amount of time I've waited. So I sent this to Jay.

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This is a semi joke. But since I decided to google this for kicks. And it answers in a 10 day period the same amount of time since my order was shipped. I thought I'd share what I found.

More than 1,800 miles in 10 days! From St. Joseph, Missouri, to Sacramento, California the Pony Express could deliver a letter faster than ever before. In operation for only 18 months between April 1860 and October 1861, the Pony Express nevertheless has become synonymous with the Old West.


Do you think I made my point?
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Yep and a good point at that!
But in this day and age things like pride in what we do, or shame because of failure and ineptitude, have been burried under participation trophies and an "everybodies special" mentality.
Jay is a product of a loser culture and probably couldn't succeed at anything if his life depended on it.
I'm sorry for the rant but I'm fed up supporting these poster children for eugenics.
 
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goldberg71b

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morgwar said:
Yep and a good point at that!
But in this day and age things like pride in what we do, or shame because of failure and ineptitude, have been burried under participation trophies and an "everybodies special" mentality.
Jay is a product of a loser culture and probably couldn't succeed at anything if his life depended on it.
I'm sorry for the rant but I'm fed up supporting these poster children for eugenics.
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You're probably right. I figured with the fact he didn't have what he said he had AFTER we had about 9 email exchanges about payment. I would have thought he'd have double checked the inventory before processing payment. Then didn't mention it at all until after a long wait and no tracking number I hit him up. Then he tells me he sent 3 of 4 packs. Mucho confusion for weeks. Waiting for a new prepaid drop and nothing comes. So at this point well I call again. We agree on 2 C99 for 1 top dawg. After all that you can be dam sure if the rolls were reversed my ass would have been at the post office with in minutes of the phone being hung up. Not this guy. It's starting to look like nothing was ever put in the mail at all. Then he went of F@@@@@G vacation! Probably spent my 200 at the bar!
 
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goldberg71b

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This day in age word travels fast! And in this game word of mouth can make you famous or infamous! He's hitting the ball out of the park on the infamous spectrum.

Of the dozens of orders I've placed over the last 5 years I've never had worse service. That include dr greenthumb. He might be old school with cash payment but with no contact other than mail. I sent in payment which took 10 days to arrive. I wanted him to sign for it. My order was in the box in 19 days! And he just sends it out regular snail mail! This guy says priority shipping and takes CC! Pretty pathetic.
 
morgwar

morgwar

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If I was JJ I'd cut that guy off permanently and disavow on social media.

I've been looking over jjs african and Landrace crosses and I think he's got the right idea! Refresh the genetics with source material, hybrid vigour can pop up easily creating far superior strains.
Ill definitely be grabbing some soon.
 
chemphlegm

chemphlegm

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goldberg71b said:
Well I'm still waiting on Jay to check his book?! But it's been 10 days. So for kicks I googled pony express delivery times. And ironically the answer was given in a 10 day period. Identical to the amount of time I've waited. So I sent this to Jay.

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This is a semi joke. But since I decided to google this for kicks. And it answers in a 10 day period the same amount of time since my order was shipped. I thought I'd share what I found.

More than 1,800 miles in 10 days! From St. Joseph, Missouri, to Sacramento, California the Pony Express could deliver a letter faster than ever before. In operation for only 18 months between April 1860 and October 1861, the Pony Express nevertheless has become synonymous with the Old West.


Do you think I made my point?
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Fuck yeah!!
 
chemphlegm

chemphlegm

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morgwar said:
So many great breeders/strains
I really would like to do a headband vrs dead head ie inner eye vrs raindance run
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I've grown those. I loved headband, but she didnt make the eventual cut. super orginal though, a must try at least.
Raindance will never leave my dirt. I'm embarrassed to admit what I culled for the Raindance run.
Raindance is my win thusfar, even threatens my beloved chem4 cut. I suspect a few differing expressions per pack. I'll get to them soon, but the very first made my top 5 of all time. Its a tight ship around here and only the cream rises.
 
Tangerine_

Tangerine_

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@goldberg71b
Any word from SPS yet? This clown seems to lay the bait with hard to find strains, gets the cash, fucks around for awhile buying time, and when he finally communicates the beans are OOS and he wont refund the cash but will let buyers pick something else.
Its a complete sham and those excuses he's been feeding customers wore out a long time ago. . Fucker!

Hope you get some resolution soon.
 
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goldberg71b

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Tangerine_ said:
@goldberg71b
Any word from SPS yet? This clown seems to lay the bait with hard to find strains, gets the cash, fucks around for awhile buying time, and when he finally communicates the beans are OOS and he wont refund the cash but will let buyers pick something else.
Its a complete sham and those excuses he's been feeding customers wore out a long time ago. . Fucker!

Hope you get some resolution soon.
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Nope I'm still waiting. Told me he was checking his books on 7/20 brings new meaning to a snails pace!! Checking the mailbox is growing old. But if they happen to arrive I don't want them baking in the mailbox. I decided to put some JD short and second generation in the vault. Payment arrives Tuesday and I should have them by Saturday. If the SPS replacements don't arrive by then. I might explode! This order payment was mailed yesterday and SPS had my payment MONTHS ago and a 10 day head start. :spew:
 
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goldberg71b

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I guess if by my spreading the word and you all passing it on and agreeing will cost him business. And if my 200 saves others money I'll call it good and let karma over! I guess I could call my CC company. But I don't need or want any attention. Looking back maybe I'm lucky I got 3 out of the 4 packs I ordered! But as long as I'm breathing I'll never talk highly or suggest anyone buy from him.

Maybe we need a thread dedicated to calling him out on his BS!
 
morgwar

morgwar

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Maybe we need a thread dedicated to calling him out on his BS![/QUOTE]

I'd have a few words to add I could have grabbed onycd 3 at glo or shn at the time.
Lost my cash and my chance, hasn't been for sale since
 
Berenger

Berenger

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I sure hope you get this worked out goldberg71b. I have only ordered from sps one time and I got what I paid for but it was a couple years ago.

I like what JJ is doing with the land race genetics. Bringing some hybrid vigor back to these lines. I have another breeder who is doing some similar things, Pantagruelion Seed Company. Running some Black Glue and Bubba Hotep in veg right now. Looking very nice and growing fast.
 
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goldberg71b

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I think it's all worked out now. I chatted/argued/debated or what ever anyone wants to call it on DM instagram the other night. This time I saw a picture with my packs on a envelope with my address on it with tracking# it's gonna be here tomorrow.

But it was a weird convo we had. He's saying he understands my point but still wanted to argue or defend his in action or mistake.

As far as I'm concerned mistakes can surely happen I make them. But the moment he packed my order he knew he was 1 pack short. Having my phone number email etc I'd expect contact before shipping. Not a hand written note explaining the mistake and leaving it to me to contact him. I know he gave me an extra 100. Did offer to refund after 2 weeks. And yes he sent me 2 packs of his genetics. But like I told him I buy what I want to run. I have a draw full of packs in my fridge of things to run. So as nice as freebies are they aren't even on my list to run. Hell I may never run them at all! If I pop them years from now and they're fire I'll give a shout out. But it's not helping me short term at all.

I also told him flat out his competition is killing him in speed and service. The funniest part is he told me he had these same issues years ago and that's why he opened his bank to solve these extract problems! In the time I've waited he's been out of town twice I know of. How in the hell can you have priority shipping of items assuming they're in stock if your not there to package and ship the order?

Now if the website said hey brah I've got these packs of fire to sell. When the waves go lame and the rip dies! I'll get them right out to you. After I take a shower, cook a good meal, oh and get a good nights sleep. I'll get right on that! Then if I decided to order I'd be cool with it.

But @Berenger you seem to have absolutely no problem getting me my orders in 3 days. What is shown is in stock is in stock! This isn't science and dammit I'm not the bad guy!
 
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SensiPuff

SensiPuff

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goldberg71b said:
I think it's all worked out now. I chatted/argued/debated or what ever anyone wants to call it on DM instagram the other night. This time I saw a picture with my packs on a envelope with my address on it with tracking# it's gonna be here tomorrow.

But it was a weird convo we had. He's saying he understands my point but still wanted to argue or defend his in action or mistake.

As far as I'm concerned mistakes can surely happen I make them. But the moment he packed my order he knew he was 1 pack short. Having my phone number email etc I'd expect contact before shipping. Not a hand written note explaining the mistake and leaving it to me to contact him. I know he gave me an extra 100. Did offer to refund after 2 weeks. And yes he sent me 2 packs of his genetics. But like I told him I buy what I want to run. I have a draw full of packs in my fridge of things to run. So as nice as freebies are they aren't even on my list to run. Hell I may never run them at all! If I pop them years from now and they're fire I'll give a shout out. But it's not helping me short term at all.

I also told him flat out his competition is killing him in speed and service. The funniest part is he told me he had these same issues years ago and that's why he opened his bank to solve these extract problems! In the time I've waited he's been out of town twice I know of. How in the hell can you have priority shipping of items assuming they're in stock if your not there to package and ship the order?

Now if the website said hey brah I've got these packs of fire to sell. When the waves go lame and the rip dies! I'll get them right out to you. After I take a shower, cook a good meal, oh and get a good nights sleep. I'll get right on that! Then if I decided to order I'd be cool with it.

But @Berenger you seem to have absolutely no problem getting me my orders in 3 days. What is shown is in stock is in stock! This isn't science and dammit I'm not the bad guy!
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Can you quit blowing up the god damn top dawg thread with your SPS soapbox
 
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goldberg71b

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SensiPuff said:
Can you quit blowing up the god damn top dawg thread with your SPS soapbox
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You can like it!
You can lump it!
You can learn from it!
You can ignore it!
But I'll be dammed if you're going to tell me what to post and what not to post. If you've got useful info put it up. If not shut up! No one needs your approval to post shit!
 
morgwar

morgwar

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A newbee researching on here about top dawg will see posts by jameshaze and Goldberg and myself and maybe save a few bucks.
Sps has been playing the topdawg web trap a long time, and probably gets all his revenue from this trick.
By all means lets get some pics up and talk genetics, but look to these as public service announcements. Its annoying to those in the know, but vital to new growers.
 
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