Topdawg Genetics
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Tangerine_
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Star Dawg IX harvested yesterday.
Pollinated lowers
I'll throw up some pics of dried nugs before jarring in a few days.
Oh and sorry for the gigantic pics. I'm back to using my digital and I always for forget to resize before posting.
Pollinated lowers
I'll throw up some pics of dried nugs before jarring in a few days.
Oh and sorry for the gigantic pics. I'm back to using my digital and I always for forget to resize before posting.
maxamus1
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Very nice looking buds tangerine. So quick question i was hoping you guys could help me with. So from my understanding top dawg found chem from bag seed correct? Did he x it to anything to get chem or was it just bag seed and if it was just bag seed why does he want royalty from it?
Tangerine_
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I started to type out a response but theres just so much info between where the seeds were found, to who popped them first.
But, yes Chemdog did make a few crosses. Giesel would be one I believe.
I try to be as accurate as possible when I post about genetics so I deleted my original response and dug out an old link I still refer to from time to time.Others might come along and chime in but in the mean time, this should help answer your questions.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=234671
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=60048
Its the most comprehensive list of info I've found.
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A lot of top shelf strains originated from bagseed, I think it's more or less about the quality than the origins. Chemdog found the original beans but JJ has put in the work making regular seed lines and not just taking the easy route making fems or S1's. So he has put in a lot of work to be compensated for in my opinion.
Bodyne
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Nice info. I will say, odd to hear of him in the one thread talk bout the robbery in Cottage Grove, OR. Cut I got legit was from Salem via Portland, and after receiving, my guy and myself were asked if we passed cuts around, to say it was the 4, not the D, and not given a reason. My guy told em to get fucked, nothing ever happened to him, we discussed why a few diff times, couldn't figger it, and I was other end of state, so I just grew it and knew it as the D. My GOAT if not up in the top 2-3. Crazy world. Not to imply anything at all, jme.
You referring to where the last seeds got stole?
Bodyne
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from reading the one thread, not sure if cuts or beans? Incident I personally referenced would have been 2011-2012. Never heard of the robbery till seeing it in that thread. Just figgered the cut guys were trying to hype the 4, when it was obvious it wasn't quite as potent as the D. again, JMHO. My guy was pretty good guy, straightforward, he knew what he got, he was gonna call it what it was. Plus, the request came after the gift was given, couple of minutes.
maxamus1
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Thanks tangerine ive read both of those threads before n thats kinda the reason i was asking to see if im taking everything wrong. I know that some great strains come from bag seed or herm but to say that its ur creation and charge everyone that runs it a finders fee is a bit over kill when u did nothing but grow it out.even sva said when he traded his cut back in 06 that he didnt even have the original cut anymore and it was the sister cut he got or was it the D? Either way just seems kinda shady to me and with sva putting his chem cut out seems that that is the original correct.
Kami Samurai
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Did you pollinate with a Stardawg male as well?
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tyke1973
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Sometimes when you growing for market ,you have to go with what the punters want,No good selling grapes when people want Pineapples,But i do agree with you ,there are loads of great strains that are far better out there in my Opinion.Barneys Farms ,Top Dawg is a Very nice strain super frosty ,With Real strong smell,The smell carries over to the taste,Really nice taste that clings to the mouth
Tangerine_
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Yep. I'm shucking the seeds today and jarring up the top unpollinated part of the plant.
tyke1973
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Fire
Tangerine_
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Thank you. I'm going to a smoke report over the weekend. I tried to do one a couple days ago but that weed had me like the Life Alert lady, lol.
Its one of the most potent flowers I've ever smoked.
SFnone
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top dawg uses chemdog verified plants- jj got the d cut from chem himself, and I think the 91 from money mike some time back, but i'm not entirely sure on that second one- either way, chem gave out cuts to a handful of people before and up to his legal issues in 11, who kept them safe and running within the inner circle- even jj lost at least a few females at one point, but has been able to get back certain cuts from those who had/have the real deal... the ones used by top dawg are legit. ... anyway, chemdog and his associates did more than just grow bagseed, they realized how special it was and brought it out of the shadows- jj has helped to preserve the strain and put it into a stable seed form- the whole chem family- the originals- deserve a great deal of credit- without them, chances are the strain would have been lost. on a side note, the real dog bud is said to have originated around the California/Oregon border, then shipped out to Colorado to a friend of a friend of joe brand. and diesel was created from a 91 cut and a maybe, maybe not, "unknown" pollen donor in either aj's or weasel's grow room (can't remember which one it supposedly was)- the diesel may be why they all are so territorial- "sour" diesel was ripped off pretty bad back in the day, including by other big breeders of the time, like soma, who made a nyc diesel that had nothing to do with the real thing. and with the inevitable corporate intrusion and exploitation that comes with legalization, it is understandable that the true keepers and growers of the original chem strains would want to retain a certain ownership- and I got no problem with that- they've been doing a good job thus far, why not keep it in the hands of a trusted source and with real weed people?... kind of unrelated, but I watch this shit on vice channel about weed, and they put these out of touch, fuckin fat cat suits on there, who would have nothing to do with weed if there was no money involved, and they are taking over... I don't know bout you, but I would much rather buy from the old-school guys who are and have been doing it with a passion for years, than from some phony who is trying to brand other peoples underground efforts in an attempt to sell their counterfeited "product"... ... i'm rambling, and honestly, I don't know if this even makes sense... but i been eating some early homemade Halloween candy, so...
... i think they need to add a head that is a balloon...
maxamus1
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Thanks for putting a different light on the subject for me it was much appreciated.top dawg uses chemdog verified plants- jj got the d cut from chem himself, and I think the 91 from money mike some time back, but i'm not entirely sure on that second one- either way, chem gave out cuts to a handful of people before and up to his legal issues in 11, who kept them safe and running within the inner circle- even jj lost at least a few females at one point, but has been able to get back certain cuts from those who had/have the real deal... the ones used by top dawg are legit. ... anyway, chemdog and his associates did more than just grow bagseed, they realized how special it was and brought it out of the shadows- jj has helped to preserve the strain and put it into a stable seed form- the whole chem family- the originals- deserve a great deal of credit- without them, chances are the strain would have been lost. on a side note, the real dog bud is said to have originated around the California/Oregon border, then shipped out to Colorado to a friend of a friend of joe brand. and diesel was created from a 91 cut and a maybe, maybe not, "unknown" pollen donor in either aj's or weasel's grow room (can't remember which one it supposedly was)- the diesel may be why they all are so territorial- "sour" diesel was ripped off pretty bad back in the day, including by other big breeders of the time, like soma, who made a nyc diesel that had nothing to do with the real thing. and with the inevitable corporate intrusion and exploitation that comes with legalization, it is understandable that the true keepers and growers of the original chem strains would want to retain a certain ownership- and I got no problem with that- they've been doing a good job thus far, why not keep it in the hands of a trusted source and with real weed people?... kind of unrelated, but I watch this shit on vice channel about weed, and they put these out of touch, fuckin fat cat suits on there, who would have nothing to do with weed if there was no money involved, and they are taking over... I don't know bout you, but I would much rather buy from the old-school guys who are and have been doing it with a passion for years, than from some phony who is trying to brand other peoples underground efforts in an attempt to sell their counterfeited "product"... ... i'm rambling, and honestly, I don't know if this even makes sense... but i been eating some early homemade Halloween candy, so...