Topicals? Salves? Rubs?

SpicySativa

SpicySativa

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Hmm... I wonder if the fat content in Shea butter is high enough to get a strong infusion? Maybe over night in a crock pot?

I'm also intrigued by emu oil, which is supposed to be an excellent transdermal carrier. I'm still wrestling with the idea of rubbing bird fat on myself, though... Are these emu's raised just for their fat, or is it a byproduct of some other emu industry? I just don't know...
 
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Subbie

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I was thinking about the double boiler crock pot idea as well. Maybe a 4 to 1 shea butter to cocomut oil for a few days in 90-100 degree water.... pondering. I know 4 to 1 shea to coconut holds together.

Oh and I'll be nice and not mention the thoughts in my mind regarding the emu oil. Actually the recipe I made is totally organic (no scent) and isnt made from animal fat.

SpicySativa said:
Hmm... I wonder if the fat content in Shea butter is high enough to get a strong infusion? Maybe over night in a crock pot?

I'm also intrigued by emu oil, which is supposed to be an excellent transdermal carrier. I'm still wrestling with the idea of rubbing bird fat on myself, though... Are these emu's raised just for their fat, or is it a byproduct of some other emu industry? I just don't know...
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nugbuckets

nugbuckets

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nothing beats coconut oil for infusion....i think what i will do, is make my standard coconut oil infusion, after de-carboxylating the herb......then simply add the rest of the emulsifiers and essential oils...need to order up my shea butter.
 
SpicySativa

SpicySativa

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Ha! I just did some searching on transdermal carriers, and it was interesting to see that most people seem to seek these out as a way to lose weight or make their junk work better... Fun times....

Hoping to make a batch of some kind of topical by the end of the week. I'll post up how it goes.
 
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Subbie

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Nugs I found this for u ....

http://healthimpactnews.com/2011/home-made-coconut-oil-skin-lotion-recipe/
Home Made Coconut Oil Skin Lotion

1/2 cup (112 grams) coconut oil (It’s best to use the unrefined kind.)
2 T. almond oil
1 T. glycerin (Available at your local drug store or online. If you’re vegan, check forvegetable glycerin.)
1/8 t. guar gum
5 drops essential oil (I used grapefruit.)
In a double boiler, gently melt the coconut oil. Stir in the rest of the ingredients and mix well. Allow to cool completely. The “lotion” will harden at this point. You can use it just like that. It will be similar to lotion bars. Or, you can use a stick blender or food processor to whip some air into the lotion



http://www.livingthenourishedlife.com/2012/02/homemade-whipped-coconut-oil-body.html
Homemade Whipped
Coconut Oil Body Butter Recipe

I love that this recipe only
requires one (yes, one!) ingredient. Anything else is completely optional. It
also only takes a few measly minutes, and you'll have enough whipped body butter
to last at least a month or two. In fact, if you get carried away, put some in
an attractive jar and it makes a great gift! It feels sinfully luxurious as a
moisturizer, and yet an entire jar of it costs less than $2 to
make.

What you need:


  • 1 cup coconut
    oil
  • 1 teaspoon vitamin E oil (optional)
  • a few drops of your favorite essential oils for fragrance (optional)\


​
What to do:​
1. Put all ingredients into a mixing bowl. (You do not have
to melt the coconut oil first.)​
2. Mix on high speed with a wire whisk for 6-7 minutes or until
whipped into a light, airy consistency.​
3. Spoon the whipped coconut oil body butter into a glass jar and
cover tightly. Store at room temperature, or in the refrigerator if your house
is so warm it melts the oil.​
Tip: An electric hand mixer will work, but my KitchenAid stand mixer did an amazing job and I was
able to get other work done while it was mixing away. A blender or food
processor may also work, but I haven't tried those yet.​
Note: Your whipped coconut oil should stay relatively
soft, even at colder temperatures. I noticed mine beaded into a froth of tiny
coconut oil pearls that melt right into my skin.​
 
nugbuckets

nugbuckets

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Subbie said:
Nugs I found this for u ....

http://healthimpactnews.com/2011/home-made-coconut-oil-skin-lotion-recipe/
Home Made Coconut Oil Skin Lotion

1/2 cup (112 grams) coconut oil (It’s best to use the unrefined kind.)
2 T. almond oil
1 T. glycerin (Available at your local drug store or online. If you’re vegan, check forvegetable glycerin.)
1/8 t. guar gum
5 drops essential oil (I used grapefruit.)
In a double boiler, gently melt the coconut oil. Stir in the rest of the ingredients and mix well. Allow to cool completely. The “lotion” will harden at this point. You can use it just like that. It will be similar to lotion bars. Or, you can use a stick blender or food processor to whip some air into the lotion



http://www.livingthenourishedlife.com/2012/02/homemade-whipped-coconut-oil-body.html
Homemade Whipped
Coconut Oil Body Butter Recipe

I love that this recipe only
requires one (yes, one!) ingredient. Anything else is completely optional. It
also only takes a few measly minutes, and you'll have enough whipped body butter
to last at least a month or two. In fact, if you get carried away, put some in
an attractive jar and it makes a great gift! It feels sinfully luxurious as a
moisturizer, and yet an entire jar of it costs less than $2 to
make.

What you need:


  • 1 cup coconut
    oil
  • 1 teaspoon vitamin E oil (optional)
  • a few drops of your favorite essential oils for fragrance (optional)\


​
What to do:​
1. Put all ingredients into a mixing bowl. (You do not have
to melt the coconut oil first.)​
2. Mix on high speed with a wire whisk for 6-7 minutes or until
whipped into a light, airy consistency.​
3. Spoon the whipped coconut oil body butter into a glass jar and
cover tightly. Store at room temperature, or in the refrigerator if your house
is so warm it melts the oil.​
Tip: An electric hand mixer will work, but my KitchenAid stand mixer did an amazing job and I was
able to get other work done while it was mixing away. A blender or food
processor may also work, but I haven't tried those yet.​
Note: Your whipped coconut oil should stay relatively
soft, even at colder temperatures. I noticed mine beaded into a froth of tiny
coconut oil pearls that melt right into my skin.​
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Perfect!....thank you....will be compiling ingredients over the next few weeks......
 
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Sir Stickybuds

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I have been making balms since i discovered them on the greenpassion forums, I do not use buds but instead I put the whole plant to use. I make a root balm, and a stem balm, with coconut oil and beeswax. fantastic for joint pain, good for light burns. Must reapply every few hours
 
SpicySativa

SpicySativa

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Hell yeah!!! I made a batch of salve last night roughly following Subbie's recipe, and this stuff is awesome!

I did things just a little different though:

-Infused 14 oz of coconut oil with about 1/2 oz of high quality larf plus about 3-4 grams of "cooking grade" bubble hash. I toasted the herb and hash per Subbie's instructions (to decarboxilate) then crumbled it into a crock pot with the oil. I let that marinate on low for about 5 hours.

-Strained into a bowl using cheese cloth, wiped the crumbs out of the crockpot, and poured the oil back in.

-Added the Shea butter and bees wax and let it melt down for about 20 minutes. Stirring occasionally.

-Poured this into a bowl which I set into a bigger bowl full of ice water, and added some eucalyptus oil.

-Wisked by hand with an egg beater until it was a creamy texture, then poured into a (short/fat) pint sized mason jar. Put that in the fridge for about 20 minutes and it was good to go!

This stuff smells great and you REALLY CAN feel it work. Within minutes my hands feel warm and a little tingly. I rubbed some on my sore back and it felt really nice. It's a little oily at first, but soaks in quickly without leaving a greasy feeling.

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!
 
nugbuckets

nugbuckets

Well-Known Member
SpicySativa said:
Hell yeah!!! I made a batch of salve last night roughly following Subbie's recipe, and this stuff is awesome!

I did things just a little different though:

-Infused 14 oz of coconut oil with about 1/2 oz of high quality larf plus about 3-4 grams of "cooking grade" bubble hash. I toasted the herb and hash per Subbie's instructions (to decarboxilate) then crumbled it into a crock pot with the oil. I let that marinate on low for about 5 hours.

-Strained into a bowl using cheese cloth, wiped the crumbs out of the crockpot, and poured the oil back in.

-Added the Shea butter and bees wax and let it melt down for about 20 minutes. Stirring occasionally.

-Poured this into a bowl which I set into a bigger bowl full of ice water, and added some eucalyptus oil.

-Wisked by hand with an egg beater until it was a creamy texture, then poured into a (short/fat) pint sized mason jar. Put that in the fridge for about 20 minutes and it was good to go!

This stuff smells great and you REALLY CAN feel it work. Within minutes my hands feel warm and a little tingly. I rubbed some on my sore back and it felt really nice. It's a little oily at first, but soaks in quickly without leaving a greasy feeling.

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!
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\very cool bro....plus rep...
 
SpicySativa

SpicySativa

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Ya man... All I can say is all the skeptics out there should give this a try. I'm sold. And I made 16 oz of this stuff for not much money. I'm sure if I'd done a little shopping around I could have cut my price tag in half, but I'm still stoked about it.

It was really easy to make with the crock pot, too.

As an added bonus, this stuff works really nice as a massage oil. :) A 15 minute mid back rubdown with this stuff fixed me up wonderfully.
 
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Subbie

Active Member
Awsome! Its actually not that bad to make in terms of ease. The biggest issue, if you can call it one is standing around until it hardens up under the mixer. You did great with the crockpot method, someday I'd like to do a comparison by testing the crockpot method vs the sit for 30+ days method. I did glycerine tinctures in the crockpot, but I let mine go for 4-5 days.

Keep one thing in mind, there are no preservatives in this so shelve life will be shorter, I would suggest just keeping it in the fridge if thats an option.


SpicySativa said:
Hell yeah!!! I made a batch of salve last night roughly following Subbie's recipe, and this stuff is awesome!

I did things just a little different though:

-Infused 14 oz of coconut oil with about 1/2 oz of high quality larf plus about 3-4 grams of "cooking grade" bubble hash. I toasted the herb and hash per Subbie's instructions (to decarboxilate) then crumbled it into a crock pot with the oil. I let that marinate on low for about 5 hours.

-Strained into a bowl using cheese cloth, wiped the crumbs out of the crockpot, and poured the oil back in.

-Added the Shea butter and bees wax and let it melt down for about 20 minutes. Stirring occasionally.

-Poured this into a bowl which I set into a bigger bowl full of ice water, and added some eucalyptus oil.

-Wisked by hand with an egg beater until it was a creamy texture, then poured into a (short/fat) pint sized mason jar. Put that in the fridge for about 20 minutes and it was good to go!

This stuff smells great and you REALLY CAN feel it work. Within minutes my hands feel warm and a little tingly. I rubbed some on my sore back and it felt really nice. It's a little oily at first, but soaks in quickly without leaving a greasy feeling.

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!
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Subbie

Active Member
Oh btw heres that potatoe rice press I mentioned, its made by Oxo, can find it at Amazon. I press out tinctures oils etc with cheese cloth, works really well.

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SpicySativa

SpicySativa

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Subbie said:
Oh btw heres that potatoe rice press I mentioned, its made by Oxo, can find it at Amazon. I press out tinctures oils etc with cheese cloth, works really well.

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Thats a neat looking tool. I just let it cool a little and mashed it with my hands. They felt great afterward :)

Interesting that you did 4-5 days in the crock pot for your glycerin tincture. I think the SUPER HIGH saturated fat content of coconut oil will dissolve the cannabinoids much quicker than glycerin. Here's a link to the wiki article about coconut oil.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut_oil

Notice on the comparison of fat contents how coconut oil has one of the highest concentrations of saturated fat. The article also mentions some properties of Coconut oil that help prevent it from going rancid (they said it can have up to a 2-year shelf life!). I think I'll just keep mine in the fridge and spoon a little out at a time to warm to room temp before using.
 
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Subbie

Active Member
It would be nice to see a study with testing using the different 'carrier' oils including gylcerin and alcohol to see what temp and timeframe would be optimal. As a matter of fact I wish there was an at home kit to test THC and CBD, I'd start a company if I had a clue about chemisty and alchemy...... Pondering......


SpicySativa said:
Thats a neat looking tool. I just let it cool a little and mashed it with my hands. They felt great afterward :)

Interesting that you did 4-5 days in the crock pot for your glycerin tincture. I think the SUPER HIGH saturated fat content of coconut oil will dissolve the cannabinoids much quicker than glycerin. Here's a link to the wiki article about coconut oil.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut_oil

Notice on the comparison of fat contents how coconut oil has one of the highest concentrations of saturated fat. The article also mentions some properties of Coconut oil that help prevent it from going rancid (they said it can have up to a 2-year shelf life!). I think I'll just keep mine in the fridge and spoon a little out at a time to warm to room temp before using.
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SpicySativa

SpicySativa

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I agree that a home test kit would be awesome. Not sure whether it's possible (at this time, anyway) because some expensive GC/MS equipment is used for the testing.

I personally don't pay much attention to lab results. MMJ testing is a completely unregulated industry where you drop off a sample and miraculously come away with a number. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they fabricated results. Hell, there's no law against it and no one checking their work.

Next batch I'll leave it in the crock overnight and see if it's any different. Of course it wont be a very valid experiment because I'll be using different herb to start with...
 
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