Total Noob using teas and I am a believer

NoSwagBag

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I am really glad to see you here. I would love to see you here and for you to pass on some wisdom.
I've got no experience with teas, so no wisdom from me, but it looks like you've got it down. I did run some outside this year with supersoil, and Im a believer too! Just add water...
 

Mad Hamish

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I too am a little zealous with my waterings still, but I am learning fast. Only in the last two months did I learn all the signs and went OOOoooohhh.... I am happy you found the pH issue as fast as you did. I put my babies through a week of low pH when my last meter gave it (it's calibration was waaay off when I checked and it was impossible to calibrate when I tried) so they had a pH of around 5.0 for a while.
Be very grateful for your experience and that you could tell very soon! It was pretty devastating on my girls. More than a fuck-up, what happened here is a sign that you are an experienced and resourceful grower and you can probably fly through any situation the hobby can throw at you.
Massive Respect!
I never thought of the clear cups, and the idea with the autos makes so much sense to me. I've never seem the point and I have a few freebies around so I really should do it also!

I just know that by next week you will have nothing but great pics to show again and you won't even see that these have suffered!
 

GandalfdaGreen

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Thank you so much for the kind words. I am debating pulling of a transplant into the TLO Mellow Mix. I cut open some of the solo cups and the roots look nice and white and fuzzy. I am honestly torn. I may let them dry out another day and do it. I don't want to play games with the FFLW. What do you guys think?
 

mycomaster

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I think now that you caught what you were doing wrong, and just give em a little cal/mag with the watering you should be fine. Just keep ph'ing your water, and try the cal/mag, and see what happens. I've Xplanted small plants before to mixed results, and I'm pretty careful with my ladies. If you're on set on moving them into new homes i would just be careful, like I know you are, and use some fresh mycos, and ewc in the Xplant dirt. I would use more mycos than ewc even, but still small amounts of both really. I think you'll come through this just fine bro, you always have seemed to in the past with no sweat. I was wondering what kind of info you have on the Kali Bubba as far as flowering time, and indica/sativa ratios? I did a quick look, and can't find much, but then again I was looking on my goofy phone. I didn't know if you at least had a some what accurate flowering time on her as I'm getting ready to pop a couple of seeds, and I think she may be my fem fall back. I thought I would plant 2-3 regs, and then one fem just to make sure I get one female, and probably two. I'd appreciate the info big time man, as I've seen you talking about her, and I know she has some amazing potential. I thought I remembered seeing something like 70 days, but I just want to make sure is all. Have a great day people. Peace out.
 

Mad Hamish

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I think you should blink, not think... I read a very interesting little book called Blink Don't Think, which pretty much set out to prove that if you are experienced in a field, your first thought (tip of consciousness) is usually going to offer the solution. It is part of the evolution to becoming a master of your craft:

1- Unconscious INcompetence - We call ourselves Noobs then. Don't know what you're doing, things are nowhere near perfect.
2- Conscious INcompetence - At this point we start seeing our mistakes, knowledge grows and we know what we are doing wrong and start fixing it.
3 - Conscious Competence - At this point, everything is smooth sailing, because we KNOW what to do, we think about it and solve problems fast, knowledge is at the tip of our brains and use of our faculties and reason alone assures a great success.
4 - UNconscious competence - We don't even need to think any more. It just rolls, natural, by reflex. Perfectly tuned in...

The last one is hardest, because it takes a great self-confidence to get there. ONLY difference between 3 and 4 is the level of trust we put in ourselves.

You know your shit. Sure you are not above fuck-ups, but you know your shit really well dude. I really think you had the answer already and moved past it and you're circling it like a shark ready to get it's prey... Certainty will probably come in a flash right as you're about to fall asleep, or right as you wake up, because at those two points we are completely, utterly incapable of being hung-up about ourselves or anything around, and the answer is the only thing floating about in that marvellous thing called your mind.

Besides, you took emergency measures now those need a tiny bit of time to show how much good they did and you will then know what kind of 'buffer' you are looking at time-wise...
 

GandalfdaGreen

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I just finished up transplanting into 1 gallon containers. Everything went smooth. No rips, tears, or bumps. I made some very interesting observations.

1. The roots were spinning at the bottom of the cups in at least half of them. The Super Blue Dream x Freedom Baby has a way more vigorous root system than the Starlet Kush and the OB Ripper. The LA Haze were in the middle. I did not expect the roots to be so developed with the shape they are in.

2. As I posted yesterday, the autos roots are way ahead of the "normal" plants. 3-4 times as developed while being the same size and condition.

3. Never use RO water without phing it with FFLW. I am in conflict again over my well water. The ph of the well is 6.3-6.5 steady and ppms are 60-70. The Rev calls for only RO, distilled, and rain water to be used. The RO is working great in the flowering and older veg crew for now. I think the RO and its ph of 5.6-5.8 is way too low for the soil. I will be adjusting it when using plain water only from now on. They say to never adjust your teas in organics but I am going to break the rule on this one too. Hell I am using Earth Juice how bad can it be.

The TLO mellow mix is simply:

1 part organic soil
1 part coco
1 part perlite

I use Happy Frog since this is the Rev's mix for seedlings, clones, and very light feeding plants. I add extra ewc. Tomorrow I am going to give the sickies the TLO seedling/clone tea.

2 tsp of molasses
1 tsp of balanced liquid fish fertilizer
1 tbs of alfalfa meal
1 tbs of kelp meal
1/2-1 cup of ewc
1 tsp of dry or liquid seaweed
10 drops of GO CaMg+

Bubble 24-48 hrs. This is made to be diluted 2 parts tea to 1 part water. You can 1:1 it if you want also. This is a great tea for landrace strains or light feeders.

BTW.......the 5.6-5.8 came in on 3 ph pens I use since I'm nuts. :eyesmoke:

The Kali Bubba is going to come in around the same time as the Kali Mist I think. I could be wrong but they look so similar. The Kali Bubba continues to be the monster of the room. She is so healthy. I'll get some pictures of her tonight.
 

prosperian

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Oh, here you are Gandalf. Made yourself home in the organics section. Too many tree huggers in here for my taste. j/k

I really like the organics group. They helped me out a lot on my first grow and gave great advice, several are on my friends list.

Just went through the last couple hundred posts to catch up.

Like what I see, bro.
 

GandalfdaGreen

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Thanks Pros. It is always something. Things are coming along. I really appreciate you taking a look over here. I am not a tree hugger. I promise. I am a believer in the V10, the twin turbo, and many other sacred things not organic in the least. It's good to catch up with you.
 

mycomaster

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Now if we can just get the twin turbo onto the V10, and get that sucker taking the jet fuel, we'll be good. I'm out of baby tears to start this thing, maybe bone marrow will work. J/K Peace out.
 

Mad Hamish

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I started my day with this song and it made me think of RIU instantly... So here's to you, my Brothers In Arms :)

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GandalfdaGreen

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I checked the transplants and they are all standing up nice and strong. I know the RO's ph of 5.6 was the cause. I am adjusting it from now on no matter what. I'll be aiming for 6.5. I think I have a handle on the right amount of Earth Juice to be used. The crystals are a new thing. I did not water during the transplantation so I plan on a light tea this evening. I am going to dilute it down to 1 part tea and 3 parts water. I just want to be conservative. Updates to come.

The flowering room is starting to explode. Everything is taking off. Things are healthy minus the CaMg issue with the Bubblegummer. Thanks to Myco I jumped on it with some CaMg+ last night with plain water ph of 6.5-6.6. The hydro experiment is going really well. Everything is green and I will be getting them better light now. I chopped all the VISC plants down and have a bunch of trimming to do tonight. This opens up perfect space for the SunMaidens, Daybreakers, and Alex Kushes in one week. They are ready. A smaller ready but in a week I am cloning and flowering. They are in 3 gallon containers full of the TLO mix. I know that the 3 gallon container is what the Rev runs most of the time himself so I am going to try it. I like 5 gallons but I will stick to the plan for once.

I want to update the one phenotype of White Rhino I have in bloom. She is by far the most resinous plant in the room. Her smells are really amongst the nicest I have encountered. She was an outcast that did not get much light during veg and I am flowering her in a 2 gallon container. I really was not interested in her at all. I can't believe how I neglected her and now she is doing this. I went so far as to use her for a test of a new soil I had never used. She does not look the best by any stretch but her frost is off the charts. Full on frost covering the largest fans. Another strong plant is the THSeeds Darkstar. She is so healthy. Just a really nice looking plant. Her clones are so green and lush. I think she shows some strong genes. She is Purple Kush x Mazar I-Sharif. I trust TH Seeds. The Kali Mists are all doing great. Overall things are awesome in the flowering room.

Hamish.....I listened to the Dire Straits while posting. Cool vibe bro. Thanks.

Thanks for looking guys.
 

GandalfdaGreen

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I just looked through the SunMaidens, Daybreakers, Alex Kushes. I have 2 SunMaiden Males. Both are really strong bushy plants. They would be the perfect structure to flower. Since the SunMaiden genetics are so rare I have decided to use the better of the two for pollen. I am going to cross everything with the best SunMaiden male. Not open pollination but a branch and bag type. SunMaiden x Kali Mist, SunMaiden F2, SunMaiden x Daybreaker, SunMaiden x Alex Kush, SunMaiden x OB Ripper. I guess I will see what happens. I will be looking to you Myco for tips. Take care guys.
 

GandalfdaGreen

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The seedlings got their fair share of the seedling tea. My ppms were only 125 with the tea. The ph of the RO water with the tea was 6.5. No adjustment needed. I added 2 ounces of Azos per gallon to the tea and placed 2 tablespoons of Mycos at the base of each seedling and let them all have about 10 ounces of the tea. I think they are starting to heal up a touch. Color is improving a bit and the leaves are in praying mode on several. They won't be touched again until Monday. I really appreciated your words this morning guys. It is great to be able to bounce this shit off you. I appreciate this place and most all the characters in it.

I found another female Alex Kush. I think I mentioned that this plant has a Larry OG cut in it. Freak found a cut he really liked at Dark Harbor Nurseries. I am excited to get to see some of the Larry OG in the Alex Kush. The Larry OG is the mother. The father is Blue Geez which is an Empress Kush male and a super potent blue cheese female. Cuts are from Oakland and Norcal respectively. I still have Cabin Fever's Master Kush to run. When Cabin Fever comes back I am all over Freak's gear.
 

mycomaster

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Hey bro those crosses sound friggin amazing. IDK why, but I'm so captivated by the O.B. Ripper, and think she's gonna be my reg choice for my next run. I was lucky enough to get a hold of 3 seeds, and am so stoked about it. I also have 3 Miss Colombia that will be so amazing as well. I noticed they released some more seeds at the Tude, but I hate taking the friggin risk with them. I really wish Herbies would stock up on their gear a little more, you know. Wow, SunMaiden x Kali Mist, SunMaiden x Alex Kush, SunMaiden x O.B. Ripper, you'll be rollin in awesome genetics man. I really don't see one cross there that doesn't have potential out the yin yang. You definitely have some exciting times ahead. Let me know how I could possibly help as this really sounds like a lot of fun. I can't wait to get to play around with some pollen chucking, LOL. you just never know what the outcome will be, and with these strains bro, I seriously think you could have some winners in the outcome. Take it easy man. Peace out.
 

Mad Hamish

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OMG... I just had an EPIC idea: Imagine an RIU SEEDBANK. Guys like you and SkunkMunky and wbw working together, and making no claims other than 'this is how we have fun, you want in?' not going for the 'we are ROCKSTARS buy our gear'...
Can you imagine a seed bank that functions on the ethics promoted in certain circles on RIU? That would be EPIC. And really on the cutting edge far as cannabis goes. You can NOT ask for a larger peer-review network.

WHEN I move to Spain, not IF, I am doing it.
 

mycomaster

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Yeah I could dig Spain man. Sounds like a pretty nice place for a modern cannabis lover. I know they're allowed so many plants, but I can't remember the exact details ATM. I just want to be able to grow some meds, and have some buddies to hang out, and chat with it about. I could be very happy living a simple life with all my plants, family, and friends around me, you know. How about a hippie commune or something, I could dig a big cannacommunity. Peace out.
 

Mad Hamish

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OK guys I just did my first little feed with my first tea :) LOW dosage let's see what it does, I mean REALLY low but they are only seedlings.

I can see if you make your own soil or use an un-buffered one, the teas can EASILY cause a bit of a headache. I'm not used to nutes being this acidic, I also ended up with a pH of 5.2 after mixing it up. I am VERY happy I used the dolomite lime in my soil mix now. But perhaps it needs to cook quite a bit longer until the lime actually starts making a difference, and I will mix another TINY bit in during the final mix, I went pretty cautious with it for the initial mix.

The tea I used was basically an Alfalfa tea with a tiny bit of composted horse manure, but I added two tablespoons of the 'fruit tea' to it while it was doing it's thing. The fruit tea is insanely microbe rich, just that little bit livened up the bucket it was brewing in like you won't believe. I'm a little worried about the carbs that come with a fruit tea, though, but I am aiming on the cautious side so it shoudn't be more rough than molasses, but the last thing I want is mould...

The tea smells a LOT different after 'cooling' without the ingredients for a day or two. Or maybe I got used to it, but it smells great now. Well, not GREAT, but in comparison to while brewing it is positively a perfume! Exciting times for me indeed.
 
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