Trailer Op

Ok so im new to this threading thing but ill give it a shot i have a few "theoretical" questions about an op i might be setting up. I have experience with one crop but i am wanting to step up my grow room a little nicer and bigger for my next crop. i am looking for efficiency and stealth along with an appropriate budget and a large harvest. i want to be able to run my grow room with great ease and along a somewhat detailed schedule. i used google sketch up to get you guys a close diagram and am hoping that you will help me work most of the kinks out.

I have so much information and questions i know i will be bound to skip some things but i am hoping that with your help and extensive knowledge i can sucessfully complete my grow. i will try to summarize all my questions at the bottom as they will be randomly scattered through my rambling.

So basically im going to do this whole thing inside a portable, enclosed utility trailer. the model i chose off the internet was a Challenger Enclosed Cargo Trailer 612CT. The inside dimensions are 12'5" x 6'8" x 5'8". i chose this one because it was about the size i wanted. i wanted a high yielding harvest from hydroponics so i chose a total of 6 25 gallon tubs (3 for veg and 3 for flower), for the hydroponic version of SOG. the approximate legnth fits 3 tubs (with 8 sites each) to a side plus a door on the right side and a cabinet on the left. There is room on walls for electrical and ventilation and also a CO2 canister. Some storage is also available above the cabinet for fertilizer and other tools.

I have it setup so that there are 4 "Stage Rooms." There will be 24 plants in each room to keep my operation on a consistent harvesting schedule. The first stage of course is the "clone room". In there i plan to have a 4 tube florescent light above a clone tray which is atop a heat pad. I plan for there to be 24-30 clones in this room initially and keep that maintained as i will be harvesting my crop potentially every 3-5 weeks. I will explain my "Harvest Schedule" later.

The next room will be right below the cloning chamber and it will be the initial veg room.( i am still deciding if i want this room and might convert it into a room for mother plants. the only downside of this is that i wont harvest as often but it will allow for reliable cuttings for my new crop...(id like input on weather or not i should keep this room, make it a mother room or split in half...)) In here i will have either a 250 or 400 w MH lamp that will welcome the young sprouts to the journey ahead. i have not figured out what type of watering system i will use for this as the clones from the previous stage will be in rockwool cubes. i am hoping to use this room as a light buffer room and also to allow for the plants to get slightly larger before being put into the main veg room. it will have a closing door so i want to make sure my ventilation is proper and the light wont burn the plants. also any ideas on an automatic watering system would be great. (now that i write this i might use some type of aeroponic setup so rooted clones can be placed in net pots, just for convenience of moving them to the next room and also not having to worry about weaving roots.

The next room is the Main Veg Room. I plan to move plants into the veg room after they have been in the initial veg room for about 2-3 weeks. This will just allow for the plants to be slightly bigger before being put under larger lamps and it will also allow me to harvest about every 3 weeks. Both my veg and flowering rooms have a capacity of 24 plants. i have each room equipped with 3, 8 site, 25 gallon dark plastic hydroponic resivors. i would like to be able to move plants one by one from veg to flower as to keep nutrients at a maximum level for each individual plant and allow for a root flush during transfer but i may have to transfer all my plants at once to keep on schedule for harvest. i am not sure what wattages of lights i should use( am thinking 2 600w per 24 plants for veg and flower) but i know i want 2 in each room and MH in veg and HPS in flowering.

my harvest schedule looks like this. i have it divided up into three sections...

Section 1 clone and sprout phase. i will have my cutting under the florescent light for the first stage. after these plants have been properly rooted they will be transported into 3-4 inch net pots with hydroton rocks and placed in the initial veg camber. the plants will grow under a MH lamp and receive hydroponic nutrition for the first time.

Section 2 veg phase. when the plants are ready i will move them to the vegative chamber. in this room plants will be lit by 2 (600w) MH bulbs and receive same supplemental nutrients via hydroponics.

Section 3 Flower and harvest. When the plants have reached flowering maturity they will be transferred for the final time into the flowering chamber. the lights will be changed to 2(600w) HPS bulbs and will also receive supplemental CO2. The nutrient schedule will also be adjusted and light cycle changed. HARVEST!!!!!

So thats what i got...and this is what i got not... i am having trouble finding an ac/ heater unit. it needs to be small and i want both a heater and ac built in one for my intake. based upon my square footage i will need an approximately 300CFM(not sure if this is right...i have numbers in the diagrams but they are just rough numbers and they also dont go all the way to the ceiling...round up... for those of you willing enough to check my simple math haha) fan to evacuate air through the "productive" air space (that being the total square footage minus that of the entry room, hydroponic resivors and cabinet) in approximately 4 min. i would like to have a capable carbon filter and have all the ventilation stuff fairly conveniently mounted and out of the way. this brings us to question #2. How, if im going to get a 15amp rated xtreme greenhouse controller, am i going to power 4 600w HP ballasts, 1 400w MH, 1 florescant light, 6 water pumps an ac/heater unit and possibly more. what stuff do you recommend having on the main controller and what stuff should be put on separate timers and circuits. . when the grow room is full of plants(96 plants) all lights, pumps and fans will be on a 12 hour period of the day. i dont know the exact amps(saving that for a long free time after i have figured out everything else) but i know that exceeds 15amps and that will fry my climate control and probably be popping circuits all day long. also input on the main "power in". i was thinking about something similar to that of a semi trailer and truck... the cabin of the truck will be the main power source( inside my garage) and the trailer will be like my trailer with 3 cables connecting the two. i didnt want to use a simple "extension cord" like plug just for security and safety. I had thought that maybe i could split a 50 amp circuit breaker into three "female" plugs with locks at the end. this line could then plug into the "male" plugs connected to the trailer and then wired into a breaker box inside the trailer. they need to be securely connected so they dont "accidently" fall out. i will try to get a diagram in my next post.

This is just a basic overview of what i have planned. i have been trying to work out a few numbers in terms of wattage of lights, CFM, amperage used, harvest yield and initial cost and will post these in my next update i will also try to get some more pictures of more intricate parts(power supply) but in the mean time just looking for some brainstorming and feedback





peace

If I plan to get on a consistent harvest schedule I will need an initial 9-13 weeks depending on what strains I plan on using. after that I am hoping that it will be cut down to 3 weeks between harvests. this will mainly depend on the fact if I can eliminate big gaps in growth by utilizing the extra starting chamber to allow for grow periods to be overlapped. im hoping to get a variety of plants through this room and am looking for any plant suggestions. I want a manageable, high yielding, and THC potent crop...but of course who doesn’t! there is a possibility that I can get pineapple kush clones and I am hoping to get those babies going. but I also thought about the "initial veg room" deal and I think im going to go half/half if I keep a main mother plant in there along with the larger sprouts. I think a 400 watt MH lamp should do the trick I might even add a few floro tubes around the side to assist with the sprouts. I have a picture from a different post that is similar to what im talking about...ill attach it at the bottom. also I calculated that, using a plant with 2 oz average harvest for each plant as my first full crop, I will potentially get 48 oz every harvest. these are the numbers I like to see...now I may be slightly optimistic on the 2 oz/ plant but anything close to that is great news for me!

Next number: 80 cfm i will show you how i got this just to make sure i am doing this right and so that size adjustments can easily be made.

1) 6.5 x 5 x 8 =260 - this is the volume of the flower and veg rooms + hall
2) 4 x 3.5 x 6.5 = 91 - this is the volume of the entry way and cabinet
3) 2(1.5 x 1.5 x = 36 - this is the size of all 6 buckets(subtract from total cf)
260+91-36= 315 (divide this by 4 min) = 78 cfm
(divide this by 3 min, its only preference) = 105 cfm

As far as i am aware there is not a 78 cfm fan that is made by anybody so i will have to more than likely round this number up (between 78-105cfm should be fine). this may not accomodate a coal fan and my extra ducting but i can get more precise later as i figure out more exact numbers.

I was unable to come up with a electric usage total because i didnt have enough time to look up individual amps and watts for each component but if you have any insight, this would be great. i will try to get these numbers soon as they will be important to see how efficient my grow room really is.

I had planned on the initial cost of this operation being around 4,500$ i would need to by a trailer(about 1500), 5 hps lights, ballasts and reflectors(1000), heater/ac(200), exhaust fans and carbon filter(200), hydroponic setup(300), mylar, insulation nutrients(200) and then close to 600$ on climate control and other smaller expences. i hope to add some type of co2 system as well to increase yields and this may end up costing another 200-300. i am hoping that with with the value of my first crop my expences of the trailer can be re-enbursed. the effiency of the production and cost of this grow op is my main concern. no matter how i grow in it i will get a product, but if done correctly it could save and even make me some extra mola.

I would also like to add that I did a kind of quick draw up of my power supply. I am not sure if it is possible for this to be done with out some crazy hard wiring but maybe something similar could be used. basically its a total of 90 amps split into three at the source then put back together at the trailer. I know that is probably more than enough amps but it will allow for error and extra utilities and could possibly power another trailer op. I hope some of you guys have done some good rigging and can give me some suggestions and insight.

And now for more questions! how would vent this thing out if I had the ac/heater as my intake and a carbon scrubber/fan outake. I could somehow attach the heater/ac so that it sucked air in through the top "window/vent". I would then only be stuck with the exhaust which would really have to be from two rooms instead of one. this is because the heater would be mounted in the middle. the ducting would split at a t and be feed down into the veg and flower rooms. these rooms are seperated to prevent light cycles from goofing up the other plants. I suppose if I did this then I could put the coal filter in the middle but at the other end and exhaust out the floor... I could also reverse that and have the heater intake from the floor and then exhaust out the top (winter time might melt snow/ice this could be a problem for both water problems and people wondering why there is hot air being vented out of a trailer)...I would like to know if you think this will create cold spots through out my room. next question and I keep em comin. odors...what are preferences on odor control. I had looked at a few ozone generators and carbon filters. I don’t really want to use anything less than either of those and may even do a combination. I really would like to just use a carbon filter but not have to replace it too often. the only problem with the ozone generators is that they don’t seem reliable...like the blower might go bad within a year. if anything though I was going to add one in addition to a coal filter rather than a filter to a ozone generator.

next question I was interested in a few other styles of growing that would give me equal or higher yield but also add variety of style. I saw an image of a scrog DWC setup with three plants in a small 18 gal bucket...I can also post a picture of this. that is what i will more than likely end up setting up for one of the sites. I was interested in bonsai growing and a successful grow journal with a setup similar to mine would be great. dirt growing was another option but i was unsure if it would give me the consistant yields and scheduled harvests in my smaller setup. any other suggestions on grow styles would be great.

I also wanted to add that in my last post I forgot to mention that my two main flower and veg rooms will each be isolated for light purposes by a panda screen that can be rolled up or removed when working on the plants. will there be any certain things with this that I would have to worry about venting...I plan on also having one oscillating fan mounted in each of the rooms to add air flow. my other growth rooms will have alluminum doors and i was planning on just venting out the side, with two muffin fans, into the veg room.

Next question: insulation. if I build a frame inside my room out of 2x3 and insulte with fiberglass insulation will this keep the coldness of a winter out of my trailer? I am not planning on keeping this in my garage but parked just outside of it. This also brings up how strong of a air scrubbing system I will need. I wonder if it can be less stronger if the smelly air will just be blown around outside and neutralized...i really cant say how close the next house over will be but with even a small coal filter should remove some odor.

I plan on doing a trailer op too, but I was only going to use one trailer per cycle, meaning one site for flowering, and one for veg. My plan is to use a 20ft trailer, gut out the interior, and place plywood all over it. A cargo trailer has no insulation so its not so easy to keep the climate controlled. Maybe a reefer box could be used to grow some reefer, lol. Its an insulated refrigerator body.

Plan is 1 20ft old trailer $500
8 1000w HPS light systems: $2400
Other shit: $3000

The benefit to my system is you dont have to build all those different rooms, Its all just one room.

green goblin,
dang man if you grow half as good as you just typed your gonna have tons of weed.

You better get good fans and carbon filter,it sounds like your trying to skimp on the wrong items........peace

a major plus with a trailer op is you can keep your landlord from looking inside and tow it away if theres too much heat.but working in such tight spaces get old fast.get a bigger trailer if you can.any fans you run will be noisy as hell with the thin metal walls.lots of car trailers have plywood lined walls.adding an extra layer of partical board on top of that would cut your noise alot.since your not planning to park it in your garage,hope you have a nice space on the side of your house with a 10 foot seperation from your closest neigbor,with a fence.also i would just have a mother and clone room and one main veg and flower room(two rooms).i also would use digital blasts and mount them in the mother room.digital is so much cooler,really no need for a seperate room when space is so tight.if i had some extra cash i would run sealed room.with gas so much you can pick up a used rv for cheap and just gut the back.

What about copters and FLIR?
I wonder if you lined things with those lead sheets if they wouldn't be able to see through, at least as much..

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[FONT=&quot]Sexxxy Beast: The idea of using two trailers is a great idea. The only issue I see that would come up with this is that when it comes time to change light cycles from veg to flower. This is one of the main reasons I had designed mine to be completely self contained. This way I only need to bring supplies in and out. When it comes to harvest time I can either cut and dry inside the trailer or place plants inside a duffel bag or cardboard box and bring them to another location to dry. If you design your setup so that both rooms are interchangeable then all you would have to do is change the MH/HPS bulbs and change your timers, nutrients and make a few other small adjustments. this will make it easier not only for security but also you don’t want to be moving your plants outside during the winter...if you had adequate space to back the trailers end to end to conceal your transporting and minimize temperature fluctuation then you may not need to worry about an interchangeable system...also wondering if you are going to do continuous harvests and if so where you were going to grow your cuttings.)[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Mr. greenthumbs: unfortunately I’m only going to have grown only 4% of 1 ton in a year (and that’s with an average of 4 oz per plant). hopefully I will get more but that’s still 80 lbs and that’s equal to almost 400,000 dollars worth of product annually...just saying lol hopefully I can have a complete system overview and step by step procedures of my operation so that anyone interested can copy my setup. I would like to say that the best part of my setup is that in a short while I will be moving to a legal state and I can just take this rite along!!!!!!!And of course this is strictly for medicinal purposes only.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Mr. Therapy Man: Thanks for the concern relative to my ventilation. I know that I had made a comment on how strong the filter needs to be because it was going to be outside, but that was more just wondering if the odor dissipates in the immediate vicinity or if the odor was one that traveled significant distances. I know that just simple smells have been the downfall of many other growers and I would not like to be sitting in prison. I plan on using a high quality carbon filter and have an exhaust system strong enough to evacuate the air in my trailer in appx 3-4 min. I had mentioned that I might also, in addition to a carbon filter, use an ozone generator but had questioned their reliability. I will use this time to also ask a question related to the way I plan on setting up my CO2. I will only be using co2 in the flowering chamber. This is because I plan on using a canister instead of a burner because I have limited space. If the carbon coal fan and exhaust setup removes air through this room, will my CO2 system be made ineffective. I do not believe it will as my exhaust fan will not be on during the whole day, but if it is on even a majority of the day it will be removing a majority of the CO2 from the air as well.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Dragun: Although I will not be worrying about a landlord, security of this trailer will be a very important aspect. In many dea raids growers possessing less than 100 plants were charged severely less than those possessing 100 or more. In my setup I will have exactly 99 with 24 clones (still considered plants), 24 sprouts, 24 veg, 24 flower, and 3 mothers. With this number of plants I can defiantly not be not worried about security. The main doors of the trailer (the double opening doors) will have VERY BIG pad locks on them. I will also frame out the whole inside of the trailer. If the locks on the doors were to be cut or removed for whatever reason the only thing that any intruder will be able to see at this point is a wall. This won’t necessarily add "Security of Entry" but it will allow for insulation to be put up (to deaden noise and prevent thermal detection) and I will also run all of my wiring through the studs. On the main entry door I will also have a pad lock or even electronic entry. I, in addition to maybe one other person will ever be entering this trailer. I do plan on having a camera system setup around, not on, the trailer. I will have one monitor inside, so that periodic glances while working will ensure security. At some point I have envisioned an iPhone system to allow for distant checkups and also possibly add a somewhat variable system. This will allow for me to gain entry, view security cameras, change light settings, monitor Co2, nutrients and temp, and allow for a few other components to be tinkered with. I also worry about space. With the setup as it is now I have less than a 2 foot "hallway". I had had concerns about this and was thinking of finding a wider trailer. I will have appx 6 inches taken off the inside width because I plan on putting up my own walls so that I can add insulation. So I have been aware of my space issue but like I said this is still in the developmental stage so I will not put this together until I am 100% sure it will be 100% perfect. Also just one last comment, the only reason I have it split into two are to allow for a continual harvest. It really is personal preference but a continual harvest fits my situation slightly better. Harvesting every 3-4 weeks will keep me not only busy but also personally and financially motivated.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Nolan: I'm really unsure if I am going to have to worry about copters and FLIR but detection prevention with lead will probably not be the best way. Lead is heavy and toxic not only to humans but also the plants. I am hoping that insulation will reduce some amount of my heat signature but I had been doing a little thinking on a circulation system that would move outside air between the insides of the studs to keep the outside o the trailer to appear cool. I am unsure if this method will work but I plan on doing a little more research on thermal signatures. I would also make sure not to exhaust hot air where it would be obvious. I will probably vent exhaust underneath as to allow for at least a little time for the air to cool down.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Ok so I will start with what’s been giving me the hardest time. I have been pondering my ventilation for quite some time. I have thought through a few different setups and each seems to have a small flaw that would potentially create problems. This is where I’m very glad I have a forum like this to turn to. I will explain what criteria I am looking for and then also explain a setup I have worked on as a starting point for those giving input. So for starters I would like to have a heater and ac. It would be convenient if they were combined into one unit and also contained a humidifier and dehumidifier. I suppose if a unit that did not contain all of these items could be found, they could be purchased separately. I do not need or want a large unit, and one that could be hung on the ceiling or wall would be preferred. This unit could be time controlled via its own thermostat and humidistat. I only want to use this unit to maintain temperature inside my grow room and will be used in unison with a carbon filter exhaust. When this unit is turned on the exhaust fan (attached to the carbon filter) will also be turned on so that the reverse pressure does not cause unwanted odors to escape. I don’t want the unit running for very long when it is on because it will be exhausting my CO2 as well. I would like to be able to feed ducting directly from this heater into both my veg and flower rooms. Ducting would be run from the top center of the trailer, through the poly dividing the rooms, to the wall and down behind the plants. This will allow for the plants to receive a breeze at the base and be part of the circulation effect. This is the reason I want air entering the room to already be “room” temperature. If it were to be significantly cooler then the plants maybe stunned. An exhaust fan, in the flowering chamber, attached to a carbon fan will remove odors at the source but may not be the best location to conserve CO2. Another thing I would like to incorporate is a vented light system. This will reduce temperature if my grow room and thus decrease the time the a/c is on and saving CO2. I am not sure if this is going to be necessary if my heater/ac unit is going to be on a majority of the day, and exhausting my CO2, despite my hopes of it not doing so… Can you see where I’m going crazy here!!! I’m hoping…praying that one of you has experience with ventilation of such intricacy and can post a reply before I go completely insane lol[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Sorry for the long response time and short update. For those of you eager to answer questions or dig up the answers there were still plenty left unanswered from the original post. I have been putting together a list of light systems and climate controllers that I will try to have ready for the post. I also have a few other items I am possibly going to use in the setup that I have questions about. Thanks for your time and happy growing!![/FONT]

you write too much dude.... I get bored after the first two lines, you need to put some action into your novel if you want people to stay interested haha

Haha thanks. I would first like to say that to get to this point and be able to tell you all that I had, I had to do a fair share of reading myself. If you would like some reading or even viewing entertainment I could give you links and locations for free pdf and video downloads on your very favorite topic of growing and other related subjects.. I understand that what I write may not even be a moderate read and the reason for this is because I am trying to assemble a system. I will have to invest a large amount of my time and money into building and operating this system, and I would like it to be as professional as possible. I would also like to operate this system as economically and as efficiently as possible. When the correct research and proper designing is applied to a system it can be efficient and economical. This is only one of many methods that I have utilized to gain proper knowledge for making my system successful. It utilizes several minds to scrutinize and correct this system for maximum performance. Interested and experienced growers, growroom constructors, and industrial engineers combined could create a truly unbeatable system. That is what I hope to get by using this thread. I have provided detailed information so that anyone giving input has proper knowledge and a basis of the system I appreciate your concern and will try to get this system underway so that some action can be added for your viewing pleasure.

Alright so I today I came up with the brilliant a brilliant idea for my ventilation system. If I can find an air conditioning system that that has an intake and exhaust instead of my planned "just intake" I can add an inline carbon air filter to prevent smell. A closed light system could also be incorporated by simply adding a squirrel cage fan exhaust near the back and a discrete intake probably located near the front. An inline fan would ensure proper airflow and keep the lights running cool. Well I’m glad ive finnaly concluded my design for ventilation. For those of you critiquing, I welcome you. And happy Friday the 13th to all

I am on dialup so takes me forever to load your pics but if you had a small space you could evacuate the air to before it goes outside you could put a strong ozone generator in it which should kill virtually all the smell. I had a buddy that exhausted air from a fairly large grow into a 4 foot square box which had a ozone generator in. The air coming out was completely clean. He had some a bunch of 1 foot pieces of wood inside attached to the bottom and top of the box which mixed the air and gave it a little more time to be cleaned before it went out.

I'm sorry but you def. are not going to get 80 lbs a year with that setup brah

ill quickly answer to your comment as i see it...first have you done the calculations to fairly say that i will not come to harvest 80 american pounds worth of product off my plants. i have created this system as one that will be able to efficiently supply me with what i need. as soon as i had chosen a setup and basic design i predicted that since i had 24 plants harvesting at a time with an average of 5oz per plant equals 120 oz per harvest. this already is 1920 if (120) multiplied by harvests in a year (16) this converted to pounds is actually 120 pounds...every year man

Wow putting my trailer to shame!!! I cant wait to see it come together and produce! Very nice Gob! +

greengoblin21 said:

ill quickly answer to your comment as i see it...first have you done the calculations to fairly say that i will not come to harvest 80 american pounds worth of product off my plants. i have created this system as one that will be able to efficiently supply me with what i need. as soon as i had chosen a setup and basic design i predicted that since i had 24 plants harvesting at a time with an average of 5oz per plant equals 120 oz per harvest. this already is 1920 if (120) multiplied by harvests in a year (16) this converted to pounds is actually 120 pounds...every year man

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I'm having troubles with this man..
You do realize how many plants you're going to need to fit to harvest 26 5oz plants every 3 weeks right?
You do know how big a plant putting off 5oz is going to be right?
You are going to need to veg that plant from clone for at least 6-8 weeks.

So let's do a quick breakdown on what you'll need room for, asuming 9week maturity times for the ease of not having to break down 7 or 8..
cycles oldest to newest:

cycle 1) 26 9weekflower plants - full sized
cycle 2) 26 6weekflower plants - full sized too
cycle 3) 26 3week flower plants - over half sized.
cycle 4) 26 6 weeks into veg plants
cycle 5) 26 3 weeks into veg clones
cycle 6) 26-52 clones rooting/rooted.

Each week you will need to chop cycle 1, move cycle 2 into 1's space, 3 into 2's 4 into 3's 5 into 4's and cycle 6 into cycle 5's space.. then chop 26-52 new clones (so you have extra in case they dont all make it/so you can pick the BETTER ones out)

I'm not saying you can't fit 52 full grown 5oz plants; 26 3/4 sized; 26 half sized; 26 1/4 sized, and 52 clones into that one trailer..but you are going to have to make a lot more efficient usage of space than you are now using products like the volksgarden or omega wheel or whatever..
To produce 26 5oz plants you will need at least 4 1000watt lights over those 26 plants alone for the last stage of the cycle.. assuming you can get near a gram a watt..
But you probably will end up with 3/4gram/watt which will make you need more light...
The 1gram:watt is like a gold standard, and 600watt lights are most efficient from what I've read and been told.

Basically man, if you're planning on putting out that much bud in this sized trailer...
well..
give me an email after you do it and I'll send you $1000 for losing a bet to myself.

I'm not trying to be mean or to discourage you, I am trying to give you a real idea of how that's going to look.

-J

PS good luck and I will definitely keep my eye out for your finished grow..
And for heating use insulation and your lights! Your lights should be able to heat the place up nicely..
Remember that those 52 veggin plants can be kept on a diff 18/6 cycle from the 12/12 of the flowers, so you can have 12 of its on hours during the 12 of the flowering off hours..

These lights will produce more than enough heat to heat the place..as long as you insulate it good -- which I indeed recommend doing, and I hope for your sake you can legally grow where you are, or that there's no one lookin out for it hardcore like there is here in some places of the states, as that grow will get caught quick =)

-J

i would seriously consider a chiller for your op.better than an a.c., much cheaper to run, quiter, you just cant beat agood chiller

The area you want to work with is WAY to small, unless your doing a SOG.
I know...i'm working with a reefer 22x8x7 split into two 8x8x7 rooms, and have just about enough room to change my mind

I veg for 8 weeks, they get 2-4 ft tall then I move them over to the bloom room.
I have three sets of 8 plants split 3 weeks apart, giving each set 9 weeks of flower.

24 mature plants in a 8x8x7 room is just about max, course i'm in soil.

I think i'd lower my expectations if I were you.

definetly in on this one.
I watched yaboi's grow and that was amazing.
I'm in