Transplant shock, overwatered, underfed, or all of the above?

Peyote alexia

Peyote alexia

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I feel this is definitely the area for me to post this :P
This is my first all hempy/pot and saucepan run.
They were all in 6L pots and a few days ago I transplanted them to 20L pots.
The process was rinse perlite, soak Coco, mix 70/30 or so
Then I transplanted them and ran a good few litres of pH d water that had a dose of good bacteria.
Then fed some humic and fulvic/seaweed mix for help with the transplant. After a day or so tied them down level with some lst. (To which they responded great to)
Gave them a few days and here we are. With wilting and lighter colour growth
They are ussually fed rather strong @ 1100ppm (.5ec scale) every feed.
Now they are also under brighter lights @360w led from the wall draw in a 1*1m
I just fed them with 1500ppm to counter the colour
I'm assuming it's a case of all three. As the title states. But going of what I've said did I do something wrong? Could I have made the process easier on them? They also have lightened up significantly which is what made me think they were missing nutes from the low EC flushes

Things to note they be of interest
*Coco wasn't flushed until the plant was in with it.
*Perlite rinsing water wasn't ph'd (but plant flush water was that I used afterwards)
*They have alot more air now circulation now
*They didn't wilt a day or two after transplant. But have to this point in the last cpl days
*The lights are at 20" and probably alot stronger then they are used to

Chears here's a pic CCamPic_000226.jpg
 
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DustyDuke

DustyDuke

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Peyote alexia said:
I feel this is definitely the area for me to post this :P
This is my first all hempy/pot and saucepan run.
They were all in 6L pots and a few days ago I transplanted them to 20L pots.
The process was rinse perlite, soak Coco, mix 70/30 or so
Then I transplanted them and ran a good few litres of pH d water that had a dose of good bacteria.
Then fed some humic and fulvic/seaweed mix for help with the transplant. After a day or so tied them down level with some lst. (To which they responded great to)
Gave them a few days and here we are. With wilting and lighter colour growth
They are ussually fed rather strong @ 1100ppm (.5ec scale) every feed.
Now they are also under brighter lights @360w led from the wall draw in a 1*1m
I just fed them with 1500ppm to counter the colour
I'm assuming it's a case of all three. As the title states. But going of what I've said did I do something wrong? Could I have made the process easier on them? They also have lightened up significantly which is what made me think they were missing nutes from the low EC flushes

Things to note they be of interest
*Coco wasn't flushed until the plant was in with it.
*Perlite rinsing water wasn't ph'd (but plant flush water was that I used afterwards)
*They have alot more air now circulation now
*They didn't wilt a day or two after transplant. But have to this point in the last cpl days
*The lights are at 20" and probably alot stronger then they are used to

Chears here's a pic View attachment 4379335
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Good luck they look healthy as dude they must love there new homes:peace:
 
DustyDuke

DustyDuke

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Peyote alexia said:
I feel this is definitely the area for me to post this :P
This is my first all hempy/pot and saucepan run.
They were all in 6L pots and a few days ago I transplanted them to 20L pots.
The process was rinse perlite, soak Coco, mix 70/30 or so
Then I transplanted them and ran a good few litres of pH d water that had a dose of good bacteria.
Then fed some humic and fulvic/seaweed mix for help with the transplant. After a day or so tied them down level with some lst. (To which they responded great to)
Gave them a few days and here we are. With wilting and lighter colour growth
They are ussually fed rather strong @ 1100ppm (.5ec scale) every feed.
Now they are also under brighter lights @360w led from the wall draw in a 1*1m
I just fed them with 1500ppm to counter the colour
I'm assuming it's a case of all three. As the title states. But going of what I've said did I do something wrong? Could I have made the process easier on them? They also have lightened up significantly which is what made me think they were missing nutes from the low EC flushes

Things to note they be of interest
*Coco wasn't flushed until the plant was in with it.
*Perlite rinsing water wasn't ph'd (but plant flush water was that I used afterwards)
*They have alot more air now circulation now
*They didn't wilt a day or two after transplant. But have to this point in the last cpl days
*The lights are at 20" and probably alot stronger then they are used to

Chears here's a pic View attachment 4379335
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When I used coco I got the prebuffed stuff it worked made life easier. Wasn’t to much more.
 
Peyote alexia

Peyote alexia

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Awesome thanks guys. Its hard to find good reading. I'll definitely look into that link and have a good read of it.
Thanks dusty Duke. I've actually tried to find a plus rep+ button to hit for you. But I don't think there is one. You have been nothing but helpfull and your comments are always welcome!!
I'm just waiting for them to perk up a little then I'll switch to flower
 
TintEastwood

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After transplant the plant is working hard to fill the new pot with roots.

I like to put them thru a couple wet/dry cycles to encourage root development. Makes them more prepared to perform once flipped.

For coco. Multiple daily feedings are ok when the pots are rootbound. Before then can stall growth and more risk of root rot issues.
 
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Peyote alexia

Peyote alexia

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TintEastwood said:
After transplant the plant is working hard to fill the new pot with roots.

I like to put them thru a couple wet/dry cycles to encourage root development. Makes them more prepared to perform once flipped.

For coco. Multiple daily feedings are ok when the pots are rootbound. Before then can stall growth and more risk of root rot issues.
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Thanks mate :)
Yer that seems to be the go. I've vegged them this way then swapped to dwc for flower. But never flowered this way. I use a bacteria mix and water that in every few weeks or I find myself over watering and in that situation you speak off. The good bacteria (like great white) is like a safe guard from myself lol
 
Peyote alexia

Peyote alexia

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Thanks @DustyDuke
Nah I meant a plus rep button. I remember seeing it back in the day. Probably on another forum.

I'm trying a little experiment with 3 products that when combined I've seen awesome results from.
Only problem being there's little info on how to use it properly
Products are all the nu-life company
Power active, stop wilt and au60 root repair
When I used it in Dwc it made for killer growth of only used from before the roots hit the water. The combo feeds bacteria. So if you have a rot problem odds are that strain adapted to bad conditions and rapidly multiplying in them.
Any swings would trigger a outbreak. But when used right it was killer! The only fix for cyanobacteria I've heard off. In the way of outcompeting.
In this experiment. I got two of the worst plants that I had two of that Strain (to be safe)
And treated them with the triple combo plus half strength ferts. Being that it can be sensitive directly on root zones but also the fact that this isn't dwc and won't be sitting in it like it would dwc. I've tried with one watering it in on the outside where the roots weren't yet. And the other I water on the inside where the old roots were. I took a photo just as I applied the mix. I'll keep you updated.
 
Peyote alexia

Peyote alexia

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So here's a 24 hour before and after shot. The two at the front were recovering well. So I didn't touch them. I watered the three products into the back left plant which was half ok. And the middle plant which was wilting bad. I left the back right as a control .
As you can see it had a awesome effect. I am noticing the leaves are folding slightly. But I'll ride it out. (Any suggestions?)
So here's the before shot (24hours ago)
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And here's the after shot. (Now) look at the middle plant to see it's effect. I'll let the back right sit for a night then if no sign of getting better I'll treat it to.
CCamPic_000229.jpg
 
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Peyote alexia

Peyote alexia

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Here's another before and after. Since it seemed to have good effect. And the worst plant wasn't getting better I decided to make another mix. The back right being the plant that made me make another mix. Check out the difference exactly 24h later. Switching to flower today :)
Lastnights photo
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Today's photo
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I'll be incorporating this into my transplanting
 
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