Transplanted Sunday Night. Any ideas? Please HELP

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hans6875

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Brief history. All of these plants were doing great and I had a bad bad nutrient burn. I didn't flush enough and they stunted, then I got them back. About a week ago I took a plant that was doing poorly and it was extremely root bound. After seeing almost all of them were like this, I assumed that would make sense to why they were stunted again, leaf burn, twisted leaves. Next day I went to 10 gal smart pots. I am showing little to no signs of improvement and the pots don't really seem to be getting lighter. I will add I did another flush approx a week before transplant for 3 days at about 3000 ml per day. I had to do this because my nut issue had my soil PH all messed up and I really wanted another (unfortunately) fresh start. Being said, these plants haven't seen nuts other than Superthrive half dose when I transplanted in which I gave them almost a gallon. Some of you might say that's under going from a 3 to 10 gal, but mind you they still very moist from the flushing. I did not break up root balls, mess with roots, just made them I nice new home and stuck them in. Using Sunshine 4. Pics below, and help as to their opinion on where I am at would be great. Do I just need to be patient? Should I mist? Harpin Protein? Open to all ideas. p1.jpg p2.jpg p3.jpg p1.jpg p2.jpg p2.jpg p1.jpg p2.jpg p3.jpg
 
Alienwidow

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So sunshine mix has no nutrients in it so youll have to be running a ppm meter and know whats going into those plants. They need to be fed at every watering. Stop flushing them, just be patient. If they were root bound theyll grow funny for the next month probably and shed a bunch of leaves. No worries. The biggest thing is getting the feed ppms right so you dont burn them again. Growing in soiless or hydro without a ppm meter is like a carpenter going to work without a tape measure. So for plants that size id say 450 ppm should be good, as they get bigger you can keep upping the ppms to about 850, and then top it out at 1000 max. I wouldnt run 1000 for long, just during heavy bud swell, then taper off.

Dont mist your plants ever unless they have bugs and your killing them with spray.

The best thing you can do is wait right now and feed right. If you want to buy some stuff to make the roots better you could grab some rizotonic from canna, or regenaroot. Or a mycorrhizae. All you really need right now is some simple two part grow formula, some liquid calmag supplement at low ppms, and the ppm meter so you dont over or under feed the plants again.
 
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Thanks for the detailed response. I did use great white when transplanted l, forgot to add that in there I and I a blue lab ppm ph monitor so now I know where I need to be. Thank you again
 
DesertGrow89

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Alienwidow said:
So sunshine mix has no nutrients in it so youll have to be running a ppm meter and know whats going into those plants. They need to be fed at every watering. Stop flushing them, just be patient. If they were root bound theyll grow funny for the next month probably and shed a bunch of leaves. No worries. The biggest thing is getting the feed ppms right so you dont burn them again. Growing in soiless or hydro without a ppm meter is like a carpenter going to work without a tape measure. So for plants that size id say 450 ppm should be good, as they get bigger you can keep upping the ppms to about 850, and then top it out at 1000 max. I wouldnt run 1000 for long, just during heavy bud swell, then taper off.

Dont mist your plants ever unless they have bugs and your killing them with spray.

The best thing you can do is wait right now and feed right. If you want to buy some stuff to make the roots better you could grab some rizotonic from canna, or regenaroot. Or a mycorrhizae. All you really need right now is some simple two part grow formula, some liquid calmag supplement at low ppms, and the ppm meter so you dont over or under feed the plants again.
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What brand ppm meter do you recommend hannah? Blue lab? Oakton?
 
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DesertGrow89 said:
What brand ppm meter do you recommend hannah? Blue lab? Oakton?
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I have a blue lab guardian. Measures temp, ph, ppm. Finally got a chance to feed (they dried a up enough). Fed 2000ml today with half amount of dyna gro as they have been almost 2 weeks with no nutes. I think the flush before the transplant was a bad idea. I just didn't think they were root bound because the size of the plants didn't support that idea. Aside from some shock the leafs looked majorly deficient so I'm hoping with the transplant they with uptake some of these nutes. Also, I was running 2 1000w hortilux veg bulb 3.5-4 ft away after 24/0 and also thought as they are having so many issues I was burning them. I have the lights at the same height but adjusted my ballast to 50%. How do you guys feel about these actions
 
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superbak3d said:
Your plants can't recover if you keep flushing them.
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Finally got a chance to feed (they dried a up enough). Fed 2000ml today with half amount of dyna gro as they have been almost 2 weeks with no nutes. I think the flush before the transplant was a bad idea. I just didn't think they were root bound because the size of the plants didn't support that idea. Aside from some shock the leafs looked majorly deficient so I'm hoping with the transplant they with uptake some of these nutes. Also, I was running 2 1000w hortilux veg bulb 3.5-4 ft away after 24/0 and also thought as they are having so many issues I was burning them. I have the lights at the same height but adjusted my ballast to 50%. How do you guys feel about these actions
 
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superbak3d said:
Your plants can't recover if you keep flushing them.
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Finally got a chance to feed (they dried a up enough). Fed 2000ml today with half amount of dyna gro as they have been almost 2 weeks with no nutes. I think the flush before the transplant was a bad idea. I just didn't think they were root bound because the size of the plants didn't support that idea. Aside from some shock the leafs looked majorly deficient so I'm hoping with the transplant they with uptake some of these nutes. Also, I was running 2 1000w hortilux veg bulb 3.5-4 ft away after 24/0 and also thought as they are having so many issues I was burning them. I have the lights at the same height but adjusted my ballast to 50%. How do you guys feel about these actions
 
Alienwidow

Alienwidow

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hans6875 said:
Finally got a chance to feed (they dried a up enough). Fed 2000ml today with half amount of dyna gro as they have been almost 2 weeks with no nutes. I think the flush before the transplant was a bad idea. I just didn't think they were root bound because the size of the plants didn't support that idea. Aside from some shock the leafs looked majorly deficient so I'm hoping with the transplant they with uptake some of these nutes. Also, I was running 2 1000w hortilux veg bulb 3.5-4 ft away after 24/0 and also thought as they are having so many issues I was burning them. I have the lights at the same height but adjusted my ballast to 50%. How do you guys feel about these actions
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The distance from the light seems ok, but why are you only watering every two weeks? Are the temps really low? With all the watts and the 24/7 they should be cooking in there, no? If your only feeding two litres at a time they should be dry at 78 degrees in three days with good air flow.
 
Urbz

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Alienwidow said:
The distance from the light seems ok, but why are you only watering every two weeks? Are the temps really low? With all the watts and the 24/7 they should be cooking in there, no? If your only feeding two litres at a time they should be dry at 78 degrees in three days with good air flow.
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Lol. You are dead on man. That is my watering routine exactly. There is only fluctuation if I have a temp problem.
 
Urbz

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400 CFM intake, couple fans circulating 450 cfm out through carbon filter. 80 lights on low 70s lights off. 16 sq ft.
 
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Alienwidow said:
Water less. More often. Two weeks is too long to have wet roots.
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Perhaps I mis spoke. I transplanted to 10 this past Sunday and hit them with water. They were still a little wet Sunday from all the flushing I did a week before that. What I speaking of 2 weeks was nutes. Temp air flow is good. 75-77 50% all controlled.
 
Urbz

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Hans, I personally think they just need some time now. But, I'm also only on my second indoor grow and I don't use nutes. I know dirt and bugs. Lol.
 
Alienwidow

Alienwidow

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hans6875 said:
Perhaps I mis spoke. I transplanted to 10 this past Sunday and hit them with water. They were still a little wet Sunday from all the flushing I did a week before that. What I speaking of 2 weeks was nutes. Temp air flow is good. 75-77 50% all controlled.
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Oh i gottcha. Well in that case you need to be running food more often than every two weeks in soiless. You need food all the time. Those girls look like they want about 50 ppm of calmag and 350 ppm of grow nutrients to me...at every watering. You wont be able to get any runoff in those big bags so feed low.
 
Alienwidow

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hans6875 said:
Thank you for the help. Will keep you posted
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Rethinking it for ya and you may want to water with less than the 400 I reccomended. Start low and work up if and when you have to. You get what im saying about not being able to give those plants run off with those sized containers right? Feed low.
 
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