trayvan martin

Carne Seca

Carne Seca

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NLXSK1 said:
NBC clearly made Zimmerman out to be a racist when he OBVIOUSLY had a problem with Travan wandering around and looking about in the middle of a rain storm. He keyed on Travan because he wasnt walking directly home and was acting suspicious. Now, since we obviously have evidence (the same level of evidence you have on zimmerman) that Travan is a petty thief, he was justified to monitor him.

Travan died for assaulting someone, not buying a bag of skittles.
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Trayvon's suspicious behavior was standing in the clubhouse away from the rain and then walking home. Trayvon wasn't "wandering around." He was going home. There is absolutely no evidence that Trayvon has engaged in any criminal behavior. He has no police record. He has no history of violence or criminal activity. None. Zimmerman has a documented history of violence and criminal behavior.
 
afrawfraw

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Carne Seca said:
Because Trayvon dragged Zimmerman out of his truck around two corners, down a sidewalk and then up on some grass where Zimmerman FINALLY pulled out his gun and shot Trayvon. Zimmerman had to shoot him. Otherwise he would have been dragged to death... over grass...
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:hump::clap: Loved that!

EXACTLY! STAY in the car, don't get out and start following this, "Suspicious Menace."

Hope I never have to deliver a pizza in Zimm's neighborhood. I'd be suspicious driving around looking at houses. And if someone approached me, I'd tell them to fuck off, because this is America, and I have my papers!
 
UncleBuck

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NLXSK1 said:
Travan died for assaulting someone, not buying a bag of skittles.
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unfounded. no evidence of this whatsoever.

we might as well conclude that zimmerman assaulted martin, we have just as much evidence for that, and it is more likely given zimmerman's history of violence and "snapping".

you also have zero evidence that martin is a thief.

ya know, it's not generally a good sign when you have to resort to lying.
 
Harrekin

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UncleBuck said:
martin was partly responsible for his own demise because he was wearing a hoodie and was a fucking moon. or goon. or something like that.
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He had like 12 women's wedding rings in his bag one day. Don't play the "innocent kid" cry me a river bullshit, it's below your IQ.
 
Carne Seca

Carne Seca

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Harrekin said:
He had like 12 women's wedding rings in his bag one day. Don't play the "innocent kid" cry me a river bullshit, it's below your IQ.
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And none of the jewelry could be traced to any robberies. Otherwise, unlike Zimmerman, he would have gone to court, spent some time in a juvenile facility (hell, knowing Florida, he would have been tried as an adult) and earned a criminal record. Which he didn't.
 
afrawfraw

afrawfraw

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The police would not have shot TM. So unless your claiming that, give it up. Zimm should have let the professionals handle it. That's why they're there. That's why police have escalation of force. No where on http://www.ready.gov does it instruct citizens to arm themselves and run armed patrols through the streets. No where.
 
londonfog

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This thread has really open my eyes to the uncaring, stupidity, and bigotry that still exists in the world today
 
afrawfraw

afrawfraw

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Oh, fam! It's tickling how Americans scream We're #1. No, more like number 11. What's worse, is only a few Americans actually know.
 
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afrawfraw said:
The police would not have shot TM. So unless your claiming that, give it up. Zimm should have let the professionals handle it. That's why they're there. That's why police have escalation of force. No where on http://www.ready.gov does it instruct citizens to arm themselves and run armed patrols through the streets. No where.
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I'll raise your 'Ready.gov" with a heaping of 'A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.'

You have a pair of threes, I have a royal flush.
 
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bundee1

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NoDrama said:
I'll raise your 'Ready.gov" with a heaping of 'A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.'

You have a pair of threes, I have a royal flush.
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I got a pair of nuts, in your mouth.

The only time a full house beats a royal flush.
 
budlover13

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Carne Seca said:
And none of the jewelry could be traced to any robberies. Otherwise, unlike Zimmerman, he would have gone to court, spent some time in a juvenile facility (hell, knowing Florida, he would have been tried as an adult) and earned a criminal record. Which he didn't.
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Had't heard about him having had 12 women's wedding rings in his posession but to claim that he had them through legal means is a stretch imo. A HUGE stretch lol.
 
Harrekin

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budlover13 said:
Had't heard about him having had 12 women's wedding rings in his posession but to claim that he had them through legal means is a stretch imo. A HUGE stretch lol.
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A completely ridiculous stretch..."that syringe isn't mine officer and I don't know how it got in my bag" sort of levels of ridiculousness.
 
UncleBuck

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Harrekin said:
A completely ridiculous stretch..."that syringe isn't mine officer and I don't know how it got in my bag" sort of levels of ridiculousness.
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martin had a bag of skittles, an iced tea, and $22 dollars on him when he was shot to death by a wannabe cop vigilante with a history of assault, drinking, and losing his temper pursued him in his truck and then on foot for several hundred yards before shooting him to death.

he did not have any rings on him. he did have his cellphone, and was talking to his girlfriend just a minute before zimmerman shot him to death.

we hear someone calling for help in the 911 tapes for 30 seconds or so before a gunshot is heard and the yells for help end. we hear the cries for help even as the gunshot is fired. if there was a voice analyst who could say that the yells for help came from zimmerman, we would have heard it by now. it's been a while since they concluded that the calls for help are not zimmerman's.

every single eyewitness who describes what happened before and after the gunshot all say that this happened in the grass. the ones who saw the immediate events after the shooting describe zimmerman straddling martin and getting up easily, looking uninjured and worried. he walks over to the sidewalk and puts his hand to his forehead looking worried.

only a minute previous, martin was simply walking home, talking to his girlfriend on the cellphone. a man with a gun who referred to martin as an "asshole that always gets away" and a "fucking goon" followed him for at least 2 minutes after 911 dispatchers told him that it was not necessary. he got out of his truck and followed him for a hundred yards or so, maybe two hundred. that is 100-200 paces, which equals about 100-200 seconds at a normal pace.

that is the 2 minutes between george zimmerman hanging up with 911, getting out of his truck, following martin, and confronting him once his cellphone call ended. in fact, he was probably walking pretty fast.

now, in the 1 minute between zimmerman catching up to martin and zimmerman killing martin, zimmerman says that martin punched him in the nose from behind, took him down to the sidewalk and started bashing his skull in, his arms were pinned, and he was trying to inch his way to the grass as he shot martin in the chest nearly point blank without getting any blood on him.

you got any bridges you want to sell?
 
NLXSK1

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UncleBuck said:
martin had a bag of skittles, an iced tea, and $22 dollars on him when he was shot to death by a wannabe cop vigilante with a history of assault, drinking, and losing his temper pursued him in his truck and then on foot for several hundred yards before shooting him to death.

he did not have any rings on him. he did have his cellphone, and was talking to his girlfriend just a minute before zimmerman shot him to death.

we hear someone calling for help in the 911 tapes for 30 seconds or so before a gunshot is heard and the yells for help end. we hear the cries for help even as the gunshot is fired. if there was a voice analyst who could say that the yells for help came from zimmerman, we would have heard it by now. it's been a while since they concluded that the calls for help are not zimmerman's.

every single eyewitness who describes what happened before and after the gunshot all say that this happened in the grass. the ones who saw the immediate events after the shooting describe zimmerman straddling martin and getting up easily, looking uninjured and worried. he walks over to the sidewalk and puts his hand to his forehead looking worried.

only a minute previous, martin was simply walking home, talking to his girlfriend on the cellphone. a man with a gun who referred to martin as an "asshole that always gets away" and a "fucking goon" followed him for at least 2 minutes after 911 dispatchers told him that it was not necessary. he got out of his truck and followed him for a hundred yards or so, maybe two hundred. that is 100-200 paces, which equals about 100-200 seconds at a normal pace.

that is the 2 minutes between george zimmerman hanging up with 911, getting out of his truck, following martin, and confronting him once his cellphone call ended. in fact, he was probably walking pretty fast.

now, in the 1 minute between zimmerman catching up to martin and zimmerman killing martin, zimmerman says that martin punched him in the nose from behind, took him down to the sidewalk and started bashing his skull in, his arms were pinned, and he was trying to inch his way to the grass as he shot martin in the chest nearly point blank without getting any blood on him.

you got any bridges you want to sell?
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You constantly harp on Zimmerman's record but dont want to talk about the 12 wedding rings and the suspicious behavior of someone who was not just walking home but was casing the joint.

Whether Zimmerman knew it or not he certainly had probable cause for watching Travan.
 
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