Trichomes & Harvesting

Father Ramirez

Well-Known Member
Congrats on your harvest, now comes to hard wait for the cure to work its wonders.
It wasn't too hard on us, k0jin, as we had commercial product to see us through until now. What a taste! What a high! We're at it again, and lessons learned here are paying off big time. I'll post pics of the fresh grow; in LED section only because I'm using household bulbs. I am NOT an LED techy.
 

k0ijn

Scientia Cannabis
It wasn't too hard on us, k0jin, as we had commercial product to see us through until now. What a taste! What a high! We're at it again, and lessons learned here are paying off big time. I'll post pics of the fresh grow; in LED section only because I'm using household bulbs. I am NOT an LED techy.
I'm glad to hear it worked out, it'll only get better with experience if you keep up the work ethic.
I'll check out your LED grow when I have more time to be on the forums ^^
 

k0ijn

Scientia Cannabis
k0jin,

Awesome thread! First grow.

So just to be clear if you're using proper nute amount no water or flush in general is needed?

Also no 2 day black out helps oils build up before chop?

How do these trichs look?
Hello CannaCole,

Flushing in general is used as an error-correcting measure, if you for example have fluctuating pH-levels or if you have a salt buildup in your medium.
Pre-harvest flushing is a variation of flushing in which some people flush near harvest to rid their plants of "bad stuff", it's an old tale, used over a lot of years which has no basis in science.
I've written a lot about this topic on this forum, everything is there for people to read if they want to.

I don't know what the other thing is you're talking about, it sounds like some of your friends are telling you fairy tales.
I mean 2 days of darkness should help oils (what oils?) build up before harvesting? Sounds ridiculous.

I cannot see the trichomes properly, the pictures you've taken are very low res and bad quality, either get a loupe and take a look or use a camera with ~5+MP so you can take high res pictures.
From what I can see (reflection wise), whatever part of the bud that is and how big those buds are, the trichomes don't look very mature.
 

CannaCole

Well-Known Member
Hello CannaCole,

Flushing in general is used as an error-correcting measure, if you for example have fluctuating pH-levels or if you have a salt buildup in your medium.
Pre-harvest flushing is a variation of flushing in which some people flush near harvest to rid their plants of "bad stuff", it's an old tale, used over a lot of years which has no basis in science.
I've written a lot about this topic on this forum, everything is there for people to read if they want to.

I don't know what the other thing is you're talking about, it sounds like some of your friends are telling you fairy tales.
I mean 2 days of darkness should help oils (what oils?) build up before harvesting? Sounds ridiculous.

I cannot see the trichomes properly, the pictures you've taken are very low res and bad quality, either get a loupe and take a look or use a camera with ~5+MP so you can take high res pictures.
From what I can see (reflection wise), whatever part of the bud that is and how big those buds are, the trichomes don't look very mature.
Thanks!

The 48 hours I meant Resin not oil. Read Jorges book and he said 48 hours lights out help resin production.

I bought a new scope so I'll try and take better pics.
 

k0ijn

Scientia Cannabis
Thanks!

The 48 hours I meant Resin not oil. Read Jorges book and he said 48 hours lights out help resin production.

I bought a new scope so I'll try and take better pics.
I don't mean to disrespect Jorge or any of his peers but he is just a writer, he is not educated in biology, although he does know his fair share of science.
I haven't seen any proof of a darkness period assisting in resin production and neither has the scientific community.
I wouldn't take these kind of theories that those types of writers come up with too seriously, they are just that, theories.

It might be hard for you to take pictures through a scope/loupe, but at least you'll be able to see for yourself.
I'd might add that a 5MP camera really isn't that expensive these days, many phones actually have more than 5MP in the built-in camera.
 
Hello k0jin and all other members who have made this thread the most informative I have ever read!

It has come to my attention that the "color of light" has a tremendous effect on bud growth, ripening
of white pistils to orange, as well as the production - quantity/size of trichomes.

I have also noticed that the aging of trichomes seem to be similar on the same plants using the same
hydro reservoir but under different 12/12 bloom lights.

So, I have come to the conclusion that the color/quality of light plays a dramatic role in the pistils ripening,
but not so much in the aging of trichomes.

As far as I can tell, the more blue spectrum - 480nm, 460nm, 440nm, 415nm - you have, the longer it will take for the pistils to turn orange.

Some people may think that it is a specific genetic trait of the particular plant that controls this transformation, I have found it not to be true.

Your thoughts?
 

CannaCole

Well-Known Member
I don't mean to disrespect Jorge or any of his peers but he is just a writer, he is not educated in biology, although he does know his fair share of science.
I haven't seen any proof of a darkness period assisting in resin production and neither has the scientific community.
I wouldn't take these kind of theories that those types of writers come up with too seriously, they are just that, theories.

It might be hard for you to take pictures through a scope/loupe, but at least you'll be able to see for yourself.
I'd might add that a 5MP camera really isn't that expensive these days, many phones actually have more than 5MP in the built-in camera.
Thanks. Understood. It will be in the dark hanging after chop :thumbup:

The better scope showed mostly clear so alittle bit longer.
 

k0ijn

Scientia Cannabis
Hello k0jin and all other members who have made this thread the most informative I have ever read!

It has come to my attention that the "color of light" has a tremendous effect on bud growth, ripening
of white pistils to orange, as well as the production - quantity/size of trichomes.

I have also noticed that the aging of trichomes seem to be similar on the same plants using the same
hydro reservoir but under different 12/12 bloom lights.

So, I have come to the conclusion that the color/quality of light plays a dramatic role in the pistils ripening,
but not so much in the aging of trichomes.

As far as I can tell, the more blue spectrum - 480nm, 460nm, 440nm, 415nm - you have, the longer it will take for the pistils to turn orange.

Some people may think that it is a specific genetic trait of the particular plant that controls this transformation, I have found it not to be true.

Your thoughts?
Hello OneloveGrower,

I'm not quite sure what your questions are but it is correct that the colour band is relative to how plants grow.

For example the 380nm - 400nm range is the start of the visible spectrum and is the band range where chlorophyll absorption begins.
The 400nm - 520nm range is where peak absorption of chlorophyll is observed, it is also the range which promotes vegetative growth.
The 610nm - 720nm range is the red band of the spectrum and is the band which promotes flowering.
The range in between 520nm and 610nm includes green, yellow and orange bands, and has far less pigment absorption.

These range bands directly relate to the colour spectrum which is why you might have read about the violet, blue & green bands referring to vegetative growth, and why you've might have read about the red band referring to flowering.


The points you bring up are from home experiments I assume?
Do you have any scientific research which backs up your theories or are you just sharing your personal findings?

The reason why the violet/blue part of the band affects how quickly the plants (including the pistils) matures is because that band range promotes growth, not flowering/budding, vice versa with regards to the red band.

This is also why growers use specific lights which promote the kind of growth or maturity that the growers want.
Just make sure that you remember the difference between the wavelength and the colour temperature (measured in Kelvin), it can be confusing if you don't remember that they are two different ways of plotting colours in the spectrum.
 
Hello k0jin,

No question... just wanted your thoughts on spectrums of light and how cannabis reacts,
while trying to keep it in the context of this thread. Thank You!

Also, no scientific research backing up my experiences - just what I observed in the flower room.

Thanks again!
 
Hello Everyone!

SLH at 60 Days!
Looks like a week/10 days more?

Maybe hard to tell, but more ambers on the lower
leaves than on the tops of the colas.

SLH 60 Days Zoom LR.jpg

SLH 60 Days Zoom-2 LR.jpg
 

k0ijn

Scientia Cannabis
Hello Everyone!

SLH at 60 Days!
Looks like a week/10 days more?

Maybe hard to tell, but more ambers on the lower
leaves than on the tops of the colas.
If you want a proper guesstimate then you need to take some pictures which show the entire cola (or even plant).

From what I can tell you have an abundance of clear trichomes and just a few cloudy, I'd say that the plant can take at least 2 weeks until it's properly matured.
 
Hello k0jin,

Day 66 - SLH Images.

Trichomes are a bit more amber on the leaves.
Your estimate of 14 more days from the last images (day 60) are probably accurate.

Let me know what you think after reviewing the images below.


Thanks again!

SLH Day 66 -1.jpg
SLH Day 66 -2.jpgSLH Day 66 -3.jpg
 

k0ijn

Scientia Cannabis
Hello k0jin,

Day 66 - SLH Images.

Trichomes are a bit more amber on the leaves.
Your estimate of 14 more days from the last images (day 60) are probably accurate.

Let me know what you think after reviewing the images below.


Thanks again!
The last image of one calyx looks mature but the two first ones look youngish imo.
Some of the images display young growth but I assume that might be because you took images of lower calyxes as well.
I would still keep to my initial estimate, if you just keep an eye on the trichomes and let the top calyxes (at least) swell up nicely at their own pace you should end up with a good harvest.
 

Macto

Well-Known Member
DSC00359.jpgDSC00358.jpgDSC00357.jpgDSC00356.jpg this is from 1 plant, and it looks like the others are heading that direction, should i flush and get ready for harvest??? can a plant keep going without sugar leaves? happy growing everyone.
 
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