Trichomes & Harvesting
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WestDenverPioneer
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Remember... you don't have to cut the whole plant down. Use your own judgement and cut only the ripe parts down. Go back 2 days later for some more, and so on. I rarely see a strain come out all at once for me.
SwankyDank
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Thank-you k0ijn, that first page was exactly what I needed. Now I know when to harvest and can do so with confidence.
Try this:Day 55 12/12 THC Bomb, any guesses how long do i have left?
http://www.radioshack.com/illuminated-microscope/6301313.html#q=Microscope&start=8
MuckyDucky
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Most of your pistils are not only still green but they still look very long and fresh. Wait until the green pistils have shrunken down in size... most closer to the size and length of your amber pistils, and you have more amber pistils... Then look at your trichs and post again.
chuck estevez
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right before lights on
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Why would you cut just after lights off? wouldn't you wanna do it in the morning when nutrients are at there lowest within the roots, stems an leaves?
chuck estevez
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oops, sorry, meant to say right before they go on after they have spent all night breaking down sugars and starches.
Thanks for the advice.... I will be chopping in the morning then
GSquaredFarm
Member
Looking for a little advice from any of you who have a good eye without the use of 60x magnification. I have a USB microscope on its way, but it can't get here fast enough. Tomorrow will be week 11 from switching to 12/12. So realistically, probably about week 9 of flowering. This one plant "looks" to be ready, but I don't have enough experience to be confident in my assessment. I think it is ready because: top leaves yellowing and working its way down the branches, pistils seem to have mostly retreated and changed color (even on lower buds), and calyxes seem pretty swollen. I would hate to wait on the microscope and miss out on the peak production of this plant. Bottom line, do I cut her down tomorrow or wait another week for a microscope to see the trichomes for sure? 
k0ijn
Scientia Cannabis
Hello GSquaredFarm,
Your plants do not look like a near harvest crop.
I would guesstimate at least another 2 weeks before you see proper calyx swelling (bud formation and development) and overall tinge.
You should be able to wait for the microscope.
I have a question about the netting. Do the plants rest on the netting?
From the pictures it seems like the netting is resting on the plants.
I would try to slightly bend and move the extended calyces around, make them interact with the netting, as to not just give more light to other branches with calyces but also make the plants work as many tips to the top.
To sum up; you want to aim for a fully developed calyxformation, if possible (this varies with strain and experience of course) something like this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/Cannabis_Plant.jpg
GSquaredFarm
Member
Thanks for the tip about the netting.
I should have ensured that only the plant in question was in the pics. She is surrounded by plants that are not ready.
Luckily the microscope came today. The first 3 pics are from higher on the plant. The last three are from the bottom of the plant. If the lower leaves had more amber trichomes I would feel confident harvesting her tomorrow. What are your thoughts, and thank you.
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fandango
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Super Great Photo.
fandango
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I just finished an experimental grow of several cookie strains...I counted the flower days wrong(count started at 12/12 cycle)instead of signs of first flower,than a run of 60 days!sure the size could have been better if the plants were a live longer.
Well the smoke test was done yesterday,the trics were more clear than cloudy with a 5% amber at most.
I smoked 1 half of a pre roll and my day was done all doped up and had to waste away on the couch!
KittyBudette
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Fantastic thread!.......Whole lot of info here.Thanks,
was just wondering when really to harvest.Now I know
You know so much,I can only hope to know a fraction of
this by the time I am old
was just wondering when really to harvest.Now I know
You know so much,I can only hope to know a fraction of
this by the time I am old
Nor-Cal Cuttings
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Very helpful thanks keep up the good work man knowledge is powerHarvesting your weed based on trichomes is probably the easiest way for most growers to harvest as close to peak harvest as possible.
The difficulty in the method comes with how to determine the state of the trichomes and what each state means.
If you have the equipment needed it is however very easy and with experience it gets even easier.
To explain how to harvest by trichomes properly I will go into detail as to how to determine when trichomes are at their peak and which substances these trichomes contain, which are desirable and which are not.
The first thing you need to know is that there are 3 "states" in a trichomes development.
The first state is clear. Clear trichomes contain precursor cannabinoids (cannabinoids are the different substances in cannabis).
These precursor cannabinoids are not psychoactive (they do not produce a 'high') yet and harvesting clear trichomes will not give you a proper harvest.
The second state is cloudy/milky. Cloudy trichomes contain fully realized THC (the by far main contributing substance in any cannabis high).
You want to get as close to 100% cloudy trichomes @ harvest to get the most potency out of your plant. It's impossible to get 100% cloudy trichomes, since trichomes are always being produced and are always maturing, even after harvest the trichomes will continue to develop.
The third state is amber. Amber trichomes contain degraded THC --> CBN. CBN represents a loss of 90% potency (from THC).
CBN is not desirable in any harvest, since it not only represents a huge loss of potency but research into the substance has also shown that CBN does not produce a high like THC does, CBN produces a more sickly feeling not a true high.
Understanding the difference between clear - cloudy - amber trichomes is essential in getting a proper harvest with a peak potency.
This image is a good helper to remember the differences:
To understand how substances change and are developed in cannabis you will need to read extensively on each substance to understand what each substance does and how they affect each other.
This image is helpful in getting a vague knowledge of substances in cannabis and how they develop:
I will not go deeper into what each substance (CBG, CBD, CBC, CBN, THCV etc.) do, suffice to say they all play a part in the cannabis high, albeit a minor part for most of them, since THC is the main factor in a cannabis high.
Some provide pain relief, some reduce muscle spasm, the list goes on and research is still being done to figure out all of the benefits of these substances.
I can however post an image that explains rather well which effects the substances have on the human body:
Trichomes are of course not the only indicator of when to harvest.
There are other factors that should be taken into account when determining when to harvest.
Calyxes on the plant will swell up, these swollen calyxes are a sign of maturity.
The pistils (what some new growers call hairs) will change colour (often to an orange tinge) and recede into the calyx.
Receding pistils are also a sign of maturity.
Then there is the overall look of the plant. Many experienced growers simply go by this factor, they can determine peak harvest just by looking at the plant and seeing how it looks from afar regarding colour tinge and the look of the calyxes.
All these factors should be taken into account when harvesting. All of these factors usually align when peak harvest approaches.
The best way to check how the trichomes on your plant are doing is by means of a loupe or a microscope.
I would recommend getting ones that can at least go to 60x magnification.
Getting one that can go to 100x would be even better, but the more magnification the more cost.
All you have to do is take a small sample of a leaf with trichomes on it, or if you have a loupe or a USB microscope simply look at the trichomes on the plant to determine their 'state'.
It's important that you check all over the plant, since trichomes will usually develop and produce faster at the top(s) of branches and slower and the bottom of the plant.
Some people choose to harvest the tops first and let the bottom nugs grow a bit more to let the trichomes mature and develop further but also to let the buds fatten up more. It's a judgement and preference call really.
It's almost impossible to harvest without at least some amber trichomes (and some clear), keeping the amber trichomes to the minimum is key if you want maximum potency out of your plant.
Usually if you are careful and watchful you will end up with around 5% clear trichomes, 10% amber and 85% cloudy trichomes.
That is a very reasonable % split and is what you should be aiming for.
References & sources:
http://montanabiotech.com/
Marijuana Chemistry:
Genetics, Processing And Potency
