Triploids... good or bad?

dbkick

dbkick

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I've seen one triploid so far. Mine turned out male(odd since the seed was SUPPOSED to be femmed green crack, guess the guy I got it from didn't really know) so I crossed a couple of my fave strains and collected some pollen(which is still in the fridge).
The seed from the cross turned out nicely .
Normally I would have just killed it but I was informed I should cross it so I did.
 
polo the don

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tekdc911 said:
a self might work but ive heard that they wont or cant breed with a normal strain due to a genetic flaw ....... maybe just internet rumor's ...... i have one that went triploid then topped itself twice that im going to try and cross with one of my male's and see what pans out
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That could be very interesting. I've read something along the lines of the ones with 4 per node can't reproduce either and that they are hard to clone.

This is my first time having tri's in l of my years of growing and it just so happens I got 2 mutants from one 3 pack of seeds. I guess I should buy some lotto tickets, lol. The first one was a trip, it grew upside down when I planted the germed seed. The taproot shot straight up and the cotys went straight down. At first I kept pushing down and burying the root then I dug it up to replant it and the cotys had went to about 3.5-4 inches down. The stem was bleach white and soft. I flipped it around and babied it and it's healthy as he'll now. It has three mains. 2 of the 3 are good and healthy but the 3rd one is healthy but stunted. It's half the height of the other 2. That plant grows super slow but fuck but the lights are on anyway so I'm gonna finish it.
The other one popped up normal, grows at a normal pace and is perfectly symmetrical. I think I'll just use another plant for my seeding project.
 
polo the don

polo the don

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dbkick said:
I've seen one triploid so far. Mine turned out male(odd since the seed was SUPPOSED to be femmed green crack, guess the guy I got it from didn't really know) so I crossed a couple of my fave strains and collected some pollen(which is still in the fridge).
The seed from the cross turned out nicely .
Normally I would have just killed it but I was informed I should cross it so I did.
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Were any of the offspring triploids?
 
tekdc911

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polo the don said:
That could be very interesting. I've read something along the lines of the ones with 4 per node can't reproduce either and that they are hard to clone.

This is my first time having tri's in l of my years of growing and it just so happens I got 2 mutants from one 3 pack of seeds. I guess I should buy some lotto tickets, lol. The first one was a trip, it grew upside down when I planted the germed seed. The taproot shot straight up and the cotys went straight down. At first I kept pushing down and burying the root then I dug it up to replant it and the cotys had went to about 3.5-4 inches down. The stem was bleach white and soft. I flipped it around and babied it and it's healthy as he'll now. It has three mains. 2 of the 3 are good and healthy but the 3rd one is healthy but stunted. It's half the height of the other 2. That plant grows super slow but fuck but the lights are on anyway so I'm gonna finish it.
The other one popped up normal, grows at a normal pace and is perfectly symmetrical. I think I'll just use another plant for my seeding project.
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gonna give the kiddo a bath then ill take a pic of the one i have going ....
it has grew out of the triploid / whirl growth but has some killer node placement atleast to me it does
 
goatlicker

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BygonEra said:
My Kannabia Karamelo popped the soil yesterday and she's a triploid. I've done some reading and all I can really find is that it's rare and causes weird growth patterns from the extra chromosome... but is that a good thing? Because it kind of seems like a bad thing.

Regardless, it's pretty cool :D

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So what's the verdict? Should I take clones? What will the yield be like compared to a normal plant?
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As far as my last grow went, she was a triploid and also had 2 seedlings come out of the 1 seed with it..
Link to last grow, she was a fucking beast.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/g13-cinderella-99-under-area-51-xgs-190-led-grow.796415/
 
MonkeyGrinder

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tekdc911 said:
a self might work but ive heard that they wont or cant breed with a normal strain due to a genetic flaw ....... maybe just internet rumor's ...... i have one that went triploid then topped itself twice that im going to try and cross with one of my male's and see what pans out
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Dude journal that for sure.I've never had one myself. I HAVE had nodes on plants throw out 3 leafsets and now that I know what the deal is with them I take that node as a cutting. I pulled 3 cuttings at various stages of growth from 2 plants. They make for some short and bushy girls. Would be great for a low profile canopy. Has its uses inside and outside.
 
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chronicals77

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goatlicker said:
As far as my last grow went, she was a triploid and also had 2 seedlings come out of the 1 seed with it..
Link to last grow, she was a fucking beast.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/g13-cinderella-99-under-area-51-xgs-190-led-grow.796415/
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I have a WW x BB fem triploid right now. Did your TP grow really slow? It looked like it grew at the same speed as the normal plant but was just a bit shorter because it had to put energy into 3 leafs per node instead of two. Im trying to figure out if its worth growing out or if I should pop another seed. I only grow one plant at a time but I count on 1.5-2lbs per plant. If this wont pull atleast a pound its not worth it to me. Im running out of time.
 
HydroRed

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I grew a polyploidy a while back. It was White Widow from ILoveGrowingMarijuana.
It was super dense, leafy as hell and a total nightmare to try to trim. It tasted like shit when dried and had a sub-par smoke to it.
Aside from the gang of hash it made I would not purposefully grow another.
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chronicals77

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HydroRed said:
I grew a polyploidy a while back. It was White Widow from ILoveGrowingMarijuana.
It was super dense, leafy as hell and a total nightmare to try to trim. It tasted like shit when dried and had a sub-par smoke to it.
Aside from the gang of hash it made I would not purposefully grow another.
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You used the entire plant for hash? Do you remember the yield? An awesome looking cola though! lol.

Damn, thats not what I was hoping to hear. I hate wasting fem seeds because for me each seed is a potential grow.
 
HydroRed

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chronicals77 said:
You used the entire plant for hash? Do you remember the yield? An awesome looking cola though! lol.

Damn, thats not what I was hoping to hear. I hate wasting fem seeds because for me each seed is a potential grow.
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I only used the sugar leaf and trim from it. There was a ton of sugar leaf and it got very frosty before chop. Not the whole plant had that on it. Out of like 8 main colas only like 3 were like that. You can kinda see in the picture that the lower buds were normal. The yield was high, but it wasnt a quality smoke by any means.
 
chronicals77

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Red, did you grow this monstrosity DWC or soil and did it take longer to flower and ripen than the normal Widows?
 
Bukvičák

Bukvičák

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HydroRed said:
I grew a polyploidy a while back. It was White Widow from ILoveGrowingMarijuana.
It was super dense, leafy as hell and a total nightmare to try to trim. It tasted like shit when dried and had a sub-par smoke to it.
Aside from the gang of hash it made I would not purposefully grow another.
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This look like a fasciation not whorled phylotaxy...
 
Bukvičák

Bukvičák

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BygonEra said:
My Kannabia Karamelo popped the soil yesterday and she's a triploid. I've done some reading and all I can really find is that it's rare and causes weird growth patterns from the extra chromosome... but is that a good thing? Because it kind of seems like a bad thing.

Regardless, it's pretty cool :D

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So what's the verdict? Should I take clones? What will the yield be like compared to a normal plant?
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I think she will start to grow with normal paterns from some time. “Whorled phylotaxy” means you have 3 or more leaves-shots growing out of one place on the stem (usually its 3). @satived is a guy who was dealing a lot with it so can be more helpful. But I would say this: when the plant keeps paterns of whorled phylotaxy completely for whole of her life, there is a big risk to become a hermie at the end of the flower. When the plant begins her life as a whorlie and than lets say after 3rd node becomes “normal” than you have good plant for scrogging and LST. My experience with this is not the same as yours, two of my three plants “whorled” as an answer to topping. Not whole plant but only 4th set of nodes. I havent finished this round yet so I can not tell you for sure, but the bud seems to me same or a litlle bit bigger. Anyway be carefull of misclassified whorlies and fasciacion, whorlies can be good but fasciation is a lost of time. Good luck
 
Macncheesehaze

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I got one going that’s wwxbb kinda cool I posted about it on here and there’s a guy from 2016 with the same strain same situation. Cool beans
 
2Hearts

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Its a trifoliate not triploid, ploidy is not in cannabis. Simply when the seed was formed a minor error in cell division hapoened. It already seems converting back to normal growth.

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I'm on my first grow. Germinated 5 seeds and one came out like this.
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