Trump signs executive orders to advance Keystone XL, Dakota Access pipelines

JaJaJaJa said:
Finally! Time to get these pipelines built and quit pandering to a bunch of econuts who think obstructing them will somehow combat climate change.
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That piece of ice is as large as the state of New York. 2015 was the hottest year on record after 2012, 10 of the hottest years on record have been after 2000..

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Denial - at this point - has exceeded embarrassment. We've reached the point, now, where denial of climate change must be ostracized and regarded as obstruction to human justice. I'm unwilling to let you be so stupid as to endanger my future and the future of billions of others.
 
Padawanbater2 said:
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That piece of ice is as large as the state of New York. 2015 was the hottest year on record after 2012, 10 of the hottest years on record have been after 2000..

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tlt_graph_June2016.jpg


Denial - at this point - has exceeded embarrassment. We've reached the point, now, where denial of climate change must be ostracized and regarded as obstruction to human justice. I'm unwilling to let you be so stupid as to endanger my future and the future of billions of others.
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And obstructing the pipelines won't do shit towards actually stopping this. You think blocking a couple of pipelines is gonna stop climate change while China and India have tens of thousands of coal plants chugging away? It's already WAY too late to really avoid climate change, so we might as well learn to mitigate/deal with it and enjoy our plentiful energy reserves. I expect we'll see some shift in agricultural area to cooler climates, and moderate flooding of coastal areas, but it won't be the doomsday some people are predicting.

As for the Teslas, yeah I would love one, but I can't afford a damn $70,000 luxury electric car, I also live in a place with cold winters, and electrics don't fare well in that.
 
Padawanbater2 said:
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That piece of ice is as large as the state of New York. 2015 was the hottest year on record after 2012, 10 of the hottest years on record have been after 2000..

Global_temps_anom-annual-5_yr_1.png


tlt_graph_June2016.jpg


Denial - at this point - has exceeded embarrassment. We've reached the point, now, where denial of climate change must be ostracized and regarded as obstruction to human justice. I'm unwilling to let you be so stupid as to endanger my future and the future of billions of others.
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Just saying!
 
JaJaJaJa said:
And obstructing the pipelines won't do shit towards actually stopping this. You think blocking a couple of pipelines is gonna stop climate change while China and India have tens of thousands of coal plants chugging away? It's already WAY too late to really avoid climate change, so we might as well learn to mitigate/deal with it and enjoy our plentiful energy reserves. I expect we'll see some shift in agricultural area to cooler climates, and moderate flooding of coastal areas, but it won't be the doomsday some people are predicting.

As for the Teslas, yeah I would love one, but I can't afford a damn $70,000 luxury electric car, I also live in a place with cold winters, and electrics don't fare well in that.
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So your logic is; well since everyone else is doing it, I might as well too! And since climate change is already here, fuck it! :wall:

There are plenty of Teslas in MA, ME, and Canada. It's plenty cold there. They drive just fine.
 
The Tesla electric cars and electric powered motors replacing fossil fueled internal combustion engines is occurring and expected to increase dramatically.

If this is the direction we're heading I see us being in a transition period.

USA uses a butt load of GWH daily to power the nation. The bulk of it being hydrocarbon sourced.

http://www.eia.gov/electricity/annual/html/epa_03_01_a.html

Assume the nation drastically cuts over to electric powered (everything, as much as practical).

What then ultimately is our best source of prime mover for generation?

I ask this because I haven't heard of solutions to meet the current nor increased demand for electricity without using hydrocarbon based fuels.

What's envisioned?
 
ArcticGranite said:
The Tesla electric cars and electric powered motors replacing fossil fueled internal combustion engines is occurring and expected to increase dramatically.

If this is the direction we're heading I see us being in a transition period.

USA uses a butt load of GWH daily to power the nation. The bulk of it being hydrocarbon sourced.

http://www.eia.gov/electricity/annual/html/epa_03_01_a.html

Assume the nation drastically cuts over to electric powered (everything, as much as practical).

What then ultimately is our best source of prime mover for generation?

I ask this because I haven't heard of solutions to meet the current nor increased demand for electricity without using hydrocarbon based fuels.

What's envisioned?
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Tesla Gigafactory is 100% off grid. There are no electric or gas lines running to the Tesla battery factory, 100% green energy....
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ArcticGranite said:
The Tesla electric cars and electric powered motors replacing fossil fueled internal combustion engines is occurring and expected to increase dramatically.

If this is the direction we're heading I see us being in a transition period.

USA uses a butt load of GWH daily to power the nation. The bulk of it being hydrocarbon sourced.

http://www.eia.gov/electricity/annual/html/epa_03_01_a.html

Assume the nation drastically cuts over to electric powered (everything, as much as practical).

What then ultimately is our best source of prime mover for generation?

I ask this because I haven't heard of solutions to meet the current nor increased demand for electricity without using hydrocarbon based fuels.

What's envisioned?
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someone is worried about his free socialism money.
 
doublejj said:
Tesla Gigafactory is 100% off grid. There are no electric or gas lines running to the Tesla battery factory, 100% green energy....
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That's actually cool as shit! The car batteries are gonna need charged periodically? Plugged into the grid to do it? Or are they self charged?
 
doublejj said:
Tesla is alive & selling well.....
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Did not JP Morgan pull funding out from Tesla (Nikola?) History buffs?

Tried drawing a parallel to show that it isn't profitable to industries with stake-holds to make themselves obsolete, they're in the business of profits not cannibalizing their businesses with tech that shows the way we're doing it is the way of dinosaurs.
 
CannaBruh said:
Did not JP Morgan pull funding out from Tesla (Nikola?) History buffs?

Tried drawing a parallel to show that it isn't profitable to industries with stake-holds to make themselves obsolete, they're in the business of profits not cannibalizing their businesses with tech that shows the way we're doing it is the way of dinosaurs.
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yes he did......and tesla car company is currently alive & selling well..
 
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