right before the roots come out does the stem turn kinda white?.. i can see this happening on almost all the cuttings and im guessing thats the plant membrane starting to draw in water.. then eventually little root spikes will start coming out? I actually had a smaller seedling in dirt that was kinda root bound. So i washed the dirt off the roots and cut them back a little bit because they were starting to turn brownish. The plant seems to be doing just fine in the cloner now tho. I also put a rockwool inside a net pot and placed a seed in it just for kicks. Trying to get new ideas on how to perpetuate the cycle a little better.