UGLY plants. What could be wrong.

Johnny Retro said:

What kind of lights do you want to use? cfls? and yea quit giving your brauds nutes for alittle while

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I am not sure, they are flowering, and I need something I can pick up from the menards or something.

Cfls with a 2700k spectrum. Anything 23 watt+. id say put 5 or 6 of them around your plants

My husband has these big orange or yellow industrial light fixture things, that he uses for his concrete construction business. Could a bulb be put in one of those that would work for flowering? I prolly need to know the kind of light or name, huh? hmmmmmm, hell if I know. Does anyone know what I am talking about?

Johnny Retro said:

Cfls with a 2700k spectrum. Anything 23 watt+. id say put 5 or 6 of them around your plants

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ok, so i will take a look for these and t5's. Just to be sure, I dont need to look for the orange or yellow or blue color, just cfl's with 2700k spectrum anything 23+ watts? THANK YOU EVERYONE!

T5s arnt good alone for flowering. And what kind of light fixtures are they? HPS? If so you could get a hps bulb, but those get extremly hot fyi

I am currently using an HPS but I do not think it is enough. So I want to just add a little more. I was going to use the t5's just for added light, is that not good? Last week my husband plugged in these yellow lights, and yeah, i done burnt myself. I am not sure if HPS, he says halogen? So again, I am just looking to add more light to the HPS 600 we already are using.

Oh yea, get those halogens out of there, your just wasting money on your energy bill. And you really shouldnt have to add more light if you are using a 600watt HPS. I think your problem is over feeding. Whats your feeding schedule?

Johnny Retro said:

Oh yea, get those halogens out of there, your just wasting money on your energy bill. And you really shouldnt have to add more light if you are using a 600watt HPS. I think your problem is over feeding. Whats your feeding schedule?

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i give them ph'd water about every 3-4 days, and the nutes added every other watering.

what type of lights are u using? i think you can move them much closer...

oh i see. is your 600w HPS air cooled?

asdfkry said:

what type of lights are u using? i think you can move them much closer...

oh i see. is your 600w HPS air cooled?

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no it isnt.... i had the lights closer and burnt one of the plants. I had the light at a good distance with the shortest plant on a table, and the other two on the ground, but one of them monsters would just grow over night right up into the light, and that keeps happening. The shorter one keeps her distance, but the other two are like wild weeds that are just growin up and up and up, im pretty sure they should have male dna because they are a pain in the arse! just joking?

Its true tho, male plants tend to grow faster then females.

Johnny Retro said:

Its true tho, male plants tend to grow faster then females.

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well i purchased fem seeds, out of the 4 one was a male, threw him out right away. These dont have any balls, but are growing the same way as the male did. These have white hairs all over the place but no balls. Could they still be males possibly? again no balls

Oh no, my bad forgot you already were 4 weeks in flowering. Yea those are females. But do like you said and tie em down. i think thatll help

I doubt they are males if they are not showing balls this far along. I'm not sure if you mentioned this or not, but where do you have the plants, i.e. grow tent, dedicated room, etc. etc. And how reflective are the walls. You could use mylar to help bounce light around to the plant. T5's would be o.k. for a secondary light source to add more light to what you have, but they are mainly used for the vegging stage. If you are going to flower them, use something that has a lower K rating (2700 K) I think, it produces more of a red/yellow spectrum which the flowering stage eats up.


I had to edit this post because I didn't see that you were flowering them already. I guess the best thing you can do is put them into a smaller area with some mylar, or anything else that is highly reflective, use that HPS light you have and add some of those 2700 k lights around the edges for filler light.

noxiously said:

I doubt they are males if they are not showing balls this far along. But I could be wrong on that. I'm not sure if you mentioned this or not, but where do you have the plants, i.e. grow tent, dedicated room, etc. etc. And how reflective are the walls. You could use mylar to help bounce light around to the plant. T5's would be o.k. for a secondary light source to add more light to what you have, but they are mainly used for the vegging stage. Since you are flowering, try to get the plants into as small of a room with your lights as close as you can without burning them. Toss a fan in there for air circulation as well. As for other lights that help in the flowering process anything that comes in the red and yellow spectrum would be good. That usually means something with a lower kelvin rating. (2500 K I think)

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I have a pretty nice sized room in the basement framed off and devided in half, half veggy and half flowering. The basement is a non-finished basement but my husband made a room, well framed a wall and made a door. The walls are painted with some kind of white paint, semi gloss I think, whatever the books I have said to use we used.

If you can get some mylar try tossing that up on the walls, it's much better than paint.

males grows faster than females. atleast mature wise. and balls show way before pistils ( if its a hermie) trust me, i know.
i just threw out my one and only hermie last week ....it was twice as young as my female and it grew bigger in no time PLUS it showed sex after just one week.
punk ass feminized seeds aint reliable

Stinkmeaner said:

males grows faster than females. atleast mature wise. and balls show way before pistils ( if its a hermie) trust me, i know.
i just threw out my one and only hermie last week ....it was twice as young as my female and it grew bigger in no time PLUS it showed sex after just one week.
punk ass feminized seeds aint reliable

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So far the northerns are the only ones that had a male. I also purchased them from a place that most people didnt receive seeds at all or were mixed males/fems. I of course didnt know this until after I purchased. I would hope that paying extra for fems you would get what you pay for, but as you say, they aint reliable

Im wondering if this could have something to do with root rot?

DirtyDiana said:

i give them ph'd water about every 3-4 days, and the nutes added every other watering.

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3-4 days between waterings? could also be letting them get a little dry, under a 600W HPS (HPS definately tend to get warm which will dry them out faster) Do you have a hygrometer for your soil?
You want the soil to dry out but not TOO dry (if the soil is seperating from the edges of the pots its too dry). I water my plants every 2 days usually, using a feed-feed-flush cycle. (i'm under a 1000W HPS which gets quite warm so i dry out a little faster)

Just throwing ideas out there

screaminsemen said:

3-4 days between waterings? could also be letting them get a little dry, under a 600W HPS (HPS definately tend to get warm which will dry them out faster) Do you have a hygrometer for your soil?
You want the soil to dry out but not TOO dry (if the soil is seperating from the edges of the pots its too dry). I water my plants every 2 days usually, using a feed-feed-flush cycle. (i'm under a 1000W HPS which gets quite warm so i dry out a little faster)

Just throwing ideas out there

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That very well could be the problem too! I have one of those things, sorry I dont know what it is called, that i stick in the soil and it tells me if its dry or needs watering, which I dont really use because I have been using my finger in the soil, doing the apx 2 inches in to see if it is still moist. So in your opinion, if i start watering every 2 days or so, will I start to see a difference?