UK Gatherings ?????

moneyface

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Anyone interested? I am gonna spend this whole year arranging free events for us tokers to meet up and enjoy.

We have to make a stand this year to get the laws changed. Without people like you and me, the politician hypocrites will win and we will continue to be branded as criminals.

Sign up to my new forums. Please help me build up a site with a great following and I will fight for change.

http://cannabis-cup-seeds.co.cc/forums/
 
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moneyface said:
Anyone interested? I am gonna spend this whole year arranging free events for us tokers to meet up and enjoy.

We have to make a stand this year to get the laws changed. Without people like you and me, the politician hypocrites will win and we will continue to be branded as criminals.

Sign up to my new forums. Please help me build up a site with a great following and I will fight for change.

http://cannabis-cup-seeds.co.cc/forums/
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moneyface

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Thanks Welsh Smoker. Ignoring this bloke above, we can still do it. If all goes to plan, the first event will be May 1st.
 
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It i a growing forum with an activist section. We need to school the public in a means that will not scare them off, so i don't see how a site like that would be of much use in turning the tide. As such being that part of what i do is illegal, my brain tells me to avoid avoid avoid out of self-preservation, but also that if that's the setup you have in mind for making a stand then i'll opt for somewhere like http://www.ukcia.org/
 
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lol but really a lot of people on here are involved with illegal activity so I doubt they'll want to meet up and shit.
 
moneyface

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Yeah I am really just getting word about. A lot of people reading this are only interested in growing or a currently not growing (many are not committing any crimes). If them people want to meet up and cause a bit of news, then I applaud them.

Don't come to these gatherings with a 1/2 oz in the pocket of sticky freshly harvested green and leave the room full at home because there will be an outside chance that you will get arrested and an even smaller chance that they will search your property. (A small chance is still a chance so don't risk it).

I assumed people in that position are clever enough to do that without trying to be pricks
 
moneyface

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tip top toker said:
It i a growing forum with an activist section. We need to school the public in a means that will not scare them off, so i don't see how a site like that would be of much use in turning the tide. As such being that part of what i do is illegal, my brain tells me to avoid avoid avoid out of self-preservation, but also that if that's the setup you have in mind for making a stand then i'll opt for somewhere like http://www.ukcia.org/
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What events/gatherings have ukc arranged? How long have they been around and what change have they managed so far????

I don't see any so I say they are USELESS
 
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So you are saying that until someone achieves a solid result, they and their efforts are useless. Are you suggesting that you and your website should be boycotted and ignored as USELESS until you have lots of awards and photo's of you in downing street eh?

So yeah, that's how i read you statement. You are asking that we all class you as USELESS until you have changed the law?
 
moneyface

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Well no. I stand corrected there. But You dismissed my attempts, and pointed everybody towards another site. In my view that site should do more in the way of ACTIVISM now that they have big enough following.

I for one will support them if they are trying to fight the same cause I am.

Sorry for sounding like a tw@ before. Didn't mean to
 
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Also, have they arranged any gatherings or made any attempts to change things? because thats what i meant with the word USELESS. if they did get the law changed without any protests or campaigns (just by supplying info and news) then I will be amazed and will also worship them as truly righteous people
 
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im going to do something more important sorry. Im putting events together all over for Prostitues to be legall in all states and have health benefits...........free samples will be given out.
 
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StonedPony said:
im going to do something more important sorry. Im putting events together all over for Prostitues to be legall in all states and have health benefits...........free samples will be given out.
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That is also a valid point. A bit irrelevant here perhaps but very true. Not sure about the free samples though, wouldn't want to go there know who else has
 
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Im sorry I jacked your thread but I truly believe if prostitution was leagel there would be less violence against women.................just my thought but Ill shut up like you said its not relevant to this thread sorry.
 
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I just don't think the public are ready for gatherings, as to be fair, there are a whole lot of smokers who are a very bad image for the public to see. People need to be educated in places and means that will not push them off. Unless someone is open to legal weed, they will not goto one of these events out of curiosity, they need to be grabbed on the street, or at the dinner table. We need to educate john and jane so that once protests and events start happening, there is enough public knowledge to understand the real meaning of the events, instead of just viewing them as a bunch of nutters wanting a toke. I have found that just sitting with family and friends, colleagues, and having a neutral and meaningful chat, i convert a whole more minds than just sticking documentaries on etc. Even my parents, two people who would probably die before they accepted a toke, openly state that they wish i could simply grow my won plants :D a year ago these same people would have phoned the police if i had a bag of weed in my pocket.

If you wanna change the public and as such (hopefully) the laws, then you need to chose an appropriate channel through which to pass your message, and also the message itself. I simply do not think cannabis forums, and cannabis forum organized events are the way to do it right now. You gotta get the change in perception out there before non-smokers will voluntarily venture onto sites and start looking at events etc.
 
moneyface

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tip top toker said:
I just don't think the public are ready for gatherings, as to be fair, there are a whole lot of smokers who are a very bad image for the public to see. People need to be educated in places and means that will not push them off. Unless someone is open to legal weed, they will not goto one of these events out of curiosity, they need to be grabbed on the street, or at the dinner table. We need to educate john and jane so that once protests and events start happening, there is enough public knowledge to understand the real meaning of the events, instead of just viewing them as a bunch of nutters wanting a toke. I have found that just sitting with family and friends, colleagues, and having a neutral and meaningful chat, i convert a whole more minds than just sticking documentaries on etc. Even my parents, two people who would probably die before they accepted a toke, openly state that they wish i could simply grow my won plants :D a year ago these same people would have phoned the police if i had a bag of weed in my pocket.

If you wanna change the public and as such (hopefully) the laws, then you need to chose an appropriate channel through which to pass your message, and also the message itself. I simply do not think cannabis forums, and cannabis forum organized events are the way to do it right now. You gotta get the change in perception out there before non-smokers will voluntarily venture onto sites and start looking at events etc.
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I disagree. Most people I interview or talk to in the UK wish cannabis was legal. I am talking about people who have not ever smoked a cigarette or joint in their life.

They wish they could stop seeing their friends and families being beaten up at the weekend, or their partners bad health due to a life of alcohol dependancy. You see tramps pissed on the street every day but alcohol isn't illegal.

You talk as if you know the formula required for pot to become legal. The truth as I see it is that the politicians etc who make these decisions are too small minded, they have been brought up in a great home and had no money worries or any other significant problems. There mother probably taught them cannabis/ DRUGS are wrong. Her mother taught her and so on.

They do not actually know what they are talking about. One of the highest police officers in the land campaigns for many drugs (inc Cocaine Cannabis and many others) to be legal, regulated and taxed. This will take power away from criminal organisations who make £££millions selling weed and coke.

A gathering, and subsequent news article (even if only local news) will raise awareness. Sure some will be stoned and will look funny. But I bet we don't smash up shop windows, leave litter everywhere, puke everywhere, beat eachother up and then get arrested. So how can we be giving a bad example of UK cannabis smokers.
 
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The government probably knows more about pot than we do :D I also guarantee that there are large sums of money moved about from large corporations to maintain the illegal nature. I think sativex is a fantastic exampmple demonstrating the governemnt working behind the scenes to sort out a profitable method of legalising cannabis. Patents and that lot. It's all money driven though.

As to peoples opinions, well it must be where you live or who you know, among the younger crowd (40 and below) there is certainly a fairly acceptable view of pot, but the 40's and up, and they are the folk that believe reefer madness and will not listen to reason.
 
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Due to what the Media wants they will only take pictures of the really fucked up looking ones and Video....................Look who the talk to about UFOs ....some trailer park redneck that ppl laugh at.................so even though there were say 1000 interested ppl there the media wil find the two Jay and Silent Bobs to interview and video..............bad idea if you wanting publicity.
 
moneyface

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tip top toker said:
The government probably knows more about pot than we do :D I also guarantee that there are large sums of money moved about from large corporations to maintain the illegal nature. I think sativex is a fantastic exampmple demonstrating the governemnt working behind the scenes to sort out a profitable method of legalising cannabis. Patents and that lot. It's all money driven though.

As to peoples opinions, well it must be where you live or who you know, among the younger crowd (40 and below) there is certainly a fairly acceptable view of pot, but the 40's and up, and they are the folk that believe reefer madness and will not listen to reason.
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YOU ARE DEAD RIGHT WITH EVERYTHING THERE. This is why I get so angry because people are being jailed and persecuted for smoking weed. I myself have had my son taken from me because my ex-partner (who used to smoke plenty - and I talked her into stop sniffing coke all day long) decided it is wrong all of a sudden.

I didn't smoke around my son at all but I have the law throwing the book at me. All the while, they are researching, patenting etc ABUSING OUR HUMAN RIGHTS FOR FINANCIAL AND POWER GAIN.

We need a radical change in public voice and opinion NOW.

STAND UP AND BE FUCKING COUNTED !!!!!
 
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