Uncle Ben's Gardening Tweeks and Pointers

Pingaling

Member
Hey Ping. I think you forgot to ask your question. I don't see the problem you seem to be taking about.
Leaf edges of new growth at the top of the plant are curled under and some leaf tips are hooking down. And the leaves on the lowest branches are wilting. Perhaps I am just being a hypochondriac eh?
 

NorthofEngland

Well-Known Member
When the prittle prattle, poodle wears the prittle prattle hat,
that silly Yanky Doodle, is really where it's at
But when we never have to argue and always have great fun
Is when the killer soilless hydro rage is really on the run
And whatever poodle prattle piddling or scratching in the bush
really doesn't matter when they're passing 'round the Kush
So, piddle poodle quickly comes a riding in a rush
and wants no more prattle prittle, just more of that Kush



my feet show it....they are Longfellows. :)
You have too much free time.
Try meeting a girl or learning how to embroider quilts
but, for fuck sake, do something.
 

Nizza

Well-Known Member
ub since you practice commercial farming what product is best for maintaining a "weed" free beds
i know you didn't ask me, but the best way IMO is to first, cook the soil. The high temperature will kill off dormant ceeds and compost things that aren't. Im talking outdoor gardening here, I use organic methods. Cooking may be unnecessary, but i figured i'd mention it because it will drastically reduce amounts of weeds that were just waiting for the right time to come up.

next, i don't think landscaping cloth really does much
in my experience, i just pick weeds every day when i water.
keeping the beds uniform and accessible is key to success! get some kneepads and dig in! I always get the roots of the weed. The weeds are never big enough to damage my plants roots when i pull them up. I throw the weeds into the compost pile to re-use any soil they take with them, and recycle the nutrients.

some would say weeding daily or every couple days is a great way of aerating the beds, and it also tills it a little.

Once the garden is big enough, the shade will prevent stuff from growing as fast , and you won't have to weed as often. It's hard to figure a way to keep animals out and still be able to weed the garden
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
Leaf edges of new growth at the top of the plant are curled under and some leaf tips are hooking down. And the leaves on the lowest branches are wilting. Perhaps I am just being a hypochondriac eh?
Oh that. I didn't even want to mention it. Slight over watering. That is why I moved to inert media, coco coir and fired clay balls. It won't hold water or food.

I can have timers and get the root ball within the first couple of weeks from clones to begin taking feed every day. For example, I am conditioning a couple of them now for 2x a day feeding. But, it is a process. I have a couple that I'm working into 1 x day.

What happens is even in fully drained media, the second watering is too much, and the symptom is that. Drooping leaves. Technically (I just checked to make sure this is the advanced section) it is transpiration that moves fluid up the plant. The pressure difference from evaporation and other uses, draws up water. So, that really helped me to see that we don't push water into this plant. It drinks water as it pleases. And the only way it can do that is through transpiration.

So, if there is too much water suddenly, and you can see this in most plants, the transpiration elevator gets swamped literally. The leaves get heavy and droop, in that fat healthy way. That is OK, for say a big rain. But, roots that are subject to too much water and no transpiration are not really functioning well. They get thin and meager, all that.

Don't worry, way out from where you are, but I have performed hideous experiments. :)

The last picture, your stem is thick and green. You don't want thin and dark/hard main stalk. Most of the aspect is up and happy, with some leaves heavy. A little water withholding, will perk that right up.

For the color. Good.
For the lower leaves the girls will tansport that nitrogen to the bud masses. But, it means they could use a bit more nitrogen, since you are so early in bloom. Later in bloom you will see this more. Natural.

Hope it helps.
 

Uncle Ben

Well-Known Member
..... I wonder how many growers actually think the male is good for nothing but pollination. I was one of those growers but now I have a different view. Okay, the bud may not be as sexy in a bag for sale but I'm not proud, I'll smoke me some male bud!
You should have seen the flames I got for suggesting males ought to be smoked as one determinant factor when choosing a pollinator, this going against the holy word of Sly (breeder of C99) saying males don't contribute to the progeny's potency.

We'll see. But, Ben, can you please address this by referencing your Sticky Thread about multiple cola tops?

If you have new thinking? Do you? Or do I still have old confusions? Perhaps it is still the idea of the more tops the better? But, they can be sub and sub sub branch bracts? All the same?
Number of main colas has nothing to do with the last flowers produced aka popcorn buds.

ub since you practice commercial farming what product is best for maintaining a "weed" free beds
Can't beat glyphosate. I do quite a bit of hand pulling of weeds in my veggie garden along with the use of glyphosate. Even my organic buddy who has a commercial landscaping biz realizes there's a time to get practical. Try hand hoeing 40 acres. You can't do it.

UB
 

Uncle Ben

Well-Known Member
Take it over to the Arena. I'll deal you over where there are more approach lanes than your drive by bs, among good folks here. Why are you even running your face about this crap? It make no sense but a pitiful jealousy seems obvious.

What's the matter you coward? You have no idea I how spend my time. You think I slaved over a bit of free verse on a Saturday? I just type it out whole cloth, for my buddy skunk.

You are indeed much more of an idiot than I took you for. It is envy, you moron. You are envious that I can walk and chew gum at the same time and make more money than you will ever see. But, this venue is above your station.

Let's take it outside, rude boy. I spend a lot of time with your girl, is what.
Ignore him, but first report him.
 

skunkd0c

Well-Known Member
When the prittle prattle, poodle wears the prittle prattle hat,
that silly Yanky Doodle, is really where it's at
But when we never have to argue and always have great fun
Is when the killer soilless hydro rage is really on the run
And whatever poodle prattle piddling or scratching in the bush
really doesn't matter when they're passing 'round the Kush
So, piddle poodle quickly comes a riding in a rush
and wants no more prattle prittle, just more of that. shuuuush.


my feet show it....they are Longfellows. :)
The most ironic thing about your above limerick
is this is the most sense you have ever made to me

Moar! please
 

Pingaling

Member
Oh that. I didn't even want to mention it. Slight over watering. That is why I moved to inert media, coco coir and fired clay balls. It won't hold water or food.

I can have timers and get the root ball within the first couple of weeks from clones to begin taking feed every day. For example, I am conditioning a couple of them now for 2x a day feeding. But, it is a process. I have a couple that I'm working into 1 x day.

What happens is even in fully drained media, the second watering is too much, and the symptom is that. Drooping leaves. Technically (I just checked to make sure this is the advanced section) it is transpiration that moves fluid up the plant. The pressure difference from evaporation and other uses, draws up water. So, that really helped me to see that we don't push water into this plant. It drinks water as it pleases. And the only way it can do that is through transpiration.

So, if there is too much water suddenly, and you can see this in most plants, the transpiration elevator gets swamped literally. The leaves get heavy and droop, in that fat healthy way. That is OK, for say a big rain. But, roots that are subject to too much water and no transpiration are not really functioning well. They get thin and meager, all that.

Don't worry, way out from where you are, but I have performed hideous experiments. :)

The last picture, your stem is thick and green. You don't want thin and dark/hard main stalk. Most of the aspect is up and happy, with some leaves heavy. A little water withholding, will perk that right up.

For the color. Good.
For the lower leaves the girls will tansport that nitrogen to the bud masses. But, it means they could use a bit more nitrogen, since you are so early in bloom. Later in bloom you will see this more. Natural.

Hope it helps.
This does certainly help. Many thanks Doer. I very much appreciate the response!
 

elkukupanda

Active Member
Mr. UB, How is it going man? This thing of growing is such a beautiful art. It's nice to be able to know with bare eyes how green a leaf have to look to not fertilize more and how green is needed for perfect fertilizing timing. How's the schooling and spun feeding going? hehe

Best Regards
ElKukuPanda
 

Uncle Ben

Well-Known Member
Hey fellas, please take your yankee doodles over to the other play pen. Like to the man at Planet Ganja!

https://www.rollitup.org/nutrients/777671-new-feeding-routine-any-tips.html#post10054509

Mr. UB, How is it going man? This thing of growing is such a beautiful art. It's nice to be able to know with bare eyes how green a leaf have to look to not fertilize more and how green is needed for perfect fertilizing timing. How's the schooling and spun feeding going? hehe

Best Regards
ElKukuPanda
Doing well, happy new year.

Grow hard,
UB
 

Jbone77

Well-Known Member
Hey UB, couple questions for ya, you recently said MH bulbs dont produce a more compact plant yet I cant find any other mention of this anywhere, do you care to share where you gained this info? You also say SCROG, LST, and supercropping are just the latest fad used by dumb newbies yet your topping technique is a thread in the "advanced growing" section, what makes your topping technique advanced yet when someone uses your topping technique and then lst's it or puts it in a scrog they are dumb newbies? Also what purpose does your Dynagro have in your garden when you have pallets of dry salts that you make stock solutions from and can be mixed to whatever nutrient profile you want? You also say tents are for dumb newbies yet building a small room is not, what makes a room better than a tent? Im confused about these points and am hoping you can educate me a little.
 

potroastV2

Well-Known Member
What you don't seem to be able to understand is that mature growers will not respond to your condescending questions after being belittled by your previous responses.

Just another life lesson for you, young Man.


:mrgreen:
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
Hey UB, couple questions for ya, you recently said MH bulbs dont produce a more compact plant yet I cant find any other mention of this anywhere, do you care to share where you gained this info? You also say SCROG, LST, and supercropping are just the latest fad used by dumb newbies yet your topping technique is a thread in the "advanced growing" section, what makes your topping technique advanced yet when someone uses your topping technique and then lst's it or puts it in a scrog they are dumb newbies? Also what purpose does your Dynagro have in your garden when you have pallets of dry salts that you make stock solutions from and can be mixed to whatever nutrient profile you want? You also say tents are for dumb newbies yet building a small room is not, what makes a room better than a tent? Im confused about these points and am hoping you can educate me a little.
Have you asked your mom, how you got the thinking that this is the way to approach a stranger, to help you?

Your confusion is deeper than you may think.

You missed all the stuff where Ben is saying not to ask him but take or leave it, and do your own experiments. I have never seen him say Dumb Newbies anything unless you are indeed being a dumb newbie.

So, this is just me. But, I don't understand how you think this passive aggressive slamming based on your admitted ignorance can even be construed, as asking for help?

Ben is growing outdoors. Are you? Ben has been though all kinds of experiments he has posted for our benefit here and elsewhere, for a long time.

Who are you? That's right, a newbie lacking in manners. Dumb or not is based entirely on you.

This is Botany Lab, not Help Desk. And it is certainly NOT challenge and defend.
 
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