Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas
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reggie stirred
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well, I already tossed the runts of the litter. 2 out of the three I have left are thriving. The third is a damn beast. I'm sure they'll be fine whether I flip em tomorrow or next month, so let me rephrase the question.
According to your experience over the years, after transplanting healthy, vigorous plants to larger containers, does it make a shit bit of difference whether you flower right away or wait for the roots to grow into their new larger space? They're 24" , 26" and 34" tall , bushy as all hell and I'll already have to tie them down all over the place once the stretch starts. Damn, I probably just answered my own question, huh...... Uh.....Sometimes I just need to think out loud a little, so thanks for the reminder. Phuck it, maybe I'll just start flowering tomorrow. What's the worst that could happen?
snew
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If you put a black bag on a plant directly in the Florida evening sun you'll cook the girl. You may get by with covering in the morning, but it doesn't take long for the sun there to become intense. Notice all the nurseries are shaded for the most part.
Uncle Ben
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OK, you seem to need someone to tell you what to do. Upcan, wait a week and then flower. How's that?
Black is beautiful, but not in the sun. Opaque mah man, opaque.
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reggie stirred
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lmao..... Nah, your first response made total sense. I was no longer asking "What should I do?" It was more like "As far as you know, does it make any difference?" Now it's more along the lines of "Do you give a damn?"OK, you seem to need someone to tell you what to do. Upcan, wait a week and then flower. How's that?
UB
Your tutorial would make perfect sense if A. I knew what nodes were B. I knew what perfect nodes were, and C if i knew any other the other 1337 6r0x3rz terms you pro's use. I know, i should be in the n00b forum but someone directed me here for pruning/topping methods.
DaveCoulier
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If you dont know what a node is then use google. I had to do the same thing when I first read this thread.
UB never uses the term perfect node. I think you mean true node, and he perfectly explains what it is on the first page.
If you still can't figure out where to cut then go through the last 5 pages or so looking for pictures. Im sure you'll find one or two that shows exactly where to cut.
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rzza
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uncle ben please help me understand the definition of TRUE NODE. im under the impression that true node means the first leafset with 3 or 5 fingers. also what is the leaf called thats above the cotyledons? it grows big branches but i dont believe its the first true node. attached is a pic of a w widow that i pinched a week ago. please take a look and tell me which true node i cut above? i believe its the second true node.
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DaveCoulier
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Jesus Christ Rzza. How about you read three posts above mine, and then click on the link in my post.
From your picture, it would appear you topped above the third true node.
rzza
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i think im confused because the branches on the bottom node with the single fingered leaf is so uniform with the other branches, it appears its gonna have 6 perfectly uniformed colas.
you should know, im hard of comprehending what i read and i truely read your op at least 8 or 9 times before i started my topping.
i also read blazes fimming thread and tried that on a few brANCHES and i agree with you, its unreliable, inconsistant and sloppy.
you should know, im hard of comprehending what i read and i truely read your op at least 8 or 9 times before i started my topping.
i also read blazes fimming thread and tried that on a few brANCHES and i agree with you, its unreliable, inconsistant and sloppy.
rzza
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listen i know this is gonna frustrate people but im still confused, this picture on top shows cotys then two true nodes. my plants all have cotys then a node where the leaves are single fingered just like a coty.Cotyledons don't have petioles nor are there any dormant buds located at their junction (I don't think). I'll get off dead center and stick some seeds into some dirt and do the experiment I said I was gonna do - start 4 seedlings, let them grow a bit, top 2 above the cotyledons and top the other 2 above the 2nd node. I did this once before but forgot the results. I'm 99% sure nothing happened above the cotyledons. We'll see.
You can play games with auxins all you want, this one is just easiest for me as I don't have the patience to deal with the maintenance of LST or SCROG. All of these training drills is a matter of redistributing auxins. Auxins are hormones that direct cell division and elongation in the terminal leader (apical dominance) while inducing some degree of dormancy in the lateral branches.
I don't think I ever posted these before, but this is an oldie (page one of the 4 Main Cola topping thread) that clearly shows the cotyledons, 1st and 2nd node topped for 4 main colas.
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side view:
Hope this finally ends the confusion.
Tio
what is your question?
because that's how they grew. it's nature it happens. mine often do the same thing. nothing unusual or to worry over.
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